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Old 08-04-2004, 02:14 PM
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Topped out the TSX speed.

well. my family doctor moved out of the city to okotoks, which is like a 20 minute drive out of city limits. i had to go for a referal to gget my tonsels out.
there is a beautiful highway, 3 lanes, low traffic. i drove there going full speed.
tsx topped out in 5th at about 200ish, 6000 revs, would not go higher,
shifted to 6th, it climbed up to 213 km/h and could go no faster, even on downhills. so that is the topspeed in 6th. feels damn good , i forgot to note revs tho.

i may have gotten a multi nova coming home on the shitty side of the higway.
parked blue van, my radar detector didnt notice anything, i sloowed down to 20km/h over limit still and then my detecter beeped once i passed the car. im praying to not get anything in the mail.
maybe i should go back and blow up the van
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213 max? Sounds kinda low.
Old 08-04-2004, 02:17 PM
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it quit climbing, peddle down.
i think i got it goin that fast on a snowboard trip once. i thought i wouldve gotten it to 230 atleast
Old 08-04-2004, 02:18 PM
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so 213 km/h is about 132 mph...fatest i've gone so far is only 110mph...

i hope you werent racing ur friend's corsica again
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I hit 240ish in my GS-R. I'm postive a TSX could at least equal that.
Old 08-04-2004, 02:27 PM
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The fastest I've gone with the TSX is low 110'smph.

iamhomin, who wonders how 130 will feel.
Old 08-04-2004, 02:30 PM
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I've hit 200 in my TSX and it had plenty left on tap. 213 sounds low to me, unless it is governed by the computer. But I'm almost positive there are members here who have gone past 213.
Old 08-04-2004, 02:30 PM
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the tsx COULD go faster. damn cimputers
it limits 5th gear to not enter vtec range.
it limits 6th gear really high, at 213hm/h
Old 08-04-2004, 03:51 PM
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There are threads from a while back where people got close to the 142 mph listed top speed (~229). The TSX is not governed - top speed is drag limited.
Old 08-04-2004, 03:51 PM
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Sorry to kill the mood, but isn't it a tad irresponsible to go that fast on a highway, no matter how low the traffic is? At that speed, you're pretty much guaranteed to kill somebody (as well as yourself) if you hit their car.
Old 08-04-2004, 04:00 PM
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Car & Driver tested the TSX in June 2003 and got a drag-limited (as opposed to governed) top speed of 133 MPH
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faster... Faster... FASTER!!!
Old 08-04-2004, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffb
Car & Driver tested the TSX in June 2003 and got a drag-limited (as opposed to governed) top speed of 133 MPH
It's BS. I've driven it up to 143mph myself.

I did it twice, the first time was for the sake of seeing how fast it would go, and at 143, it was still gaining speed. Domn is probably right about the 150mph mark.

The second time was in a dramatic situation when I had to drive a 20 minute rush (usually would take 45min) to the hospital when I had to drive one of my best (girl) friend's brother to see her one last time because she was dying of a level 4 brain tumor, and had only a few minutes or hours of consciousness left for her. Turns out he got to tell her only a few words before she fell into a definite coma. Sad, sad story.

Anyhow... getting off topic here, let's not get into these painful souvenirs.

But I do know the TSX is good for at the very least 135kph.
Old 08-04-2004, 06:42 PM
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Its true... I got mine up to 144 MPH but I got scared since I was doing this while raining...very smart huh
Old 08-04-2004, 07:01 PM
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144mph during a rainy day?

You should get your head examined.
Old 08-04-2004, 07:48 PM
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yea more like get my headshot for doing a stupid:spankme: assSpanking stunt like that... oh well I lived thru it and wont dare do it again...
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i went 130 in a z06, that was fun.
Old 08-04-2004, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX Cman
the tsx COULD go faster. damn cimputers
it limits 5th gear to not enter vtec range.
it limits 6th gear really high, at 213hm/h
no, no it's not.
Old 08-04-2004, 09:06 PM
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Just want to remind folks that the speedometer readout in the 130-140mph area is most likely not accurate, but a bit high. Not sure what the correction is, but my guess is C&D measured it externally (not speedo).
Old 08-04-2004, 09:26 PM
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Highest I hit was 125, smooth as silk and felt like it still had more left in it.

I topped my old rsx-s out at about 142 or so... that's quite a feeling.
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I did 135 My exit was comming up so I backed off but there was no strain I could have gone faster.
Old 08-05-2004, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by provench
Just want to remind folks that the speedometer readout in the 130-140mph area is most likely not accurate, but a bit high. Not sure what the correction is, but my guess is C&D measured it externally (not speedo).

I was about to say. My Odo on my GS-R read just over 240 but I seriously doubt that was accurate. But I'm convinced the TSX could hit 140MPH, although I'll probly never find out first hand.
Old 08-05-2004, 08:13 AM
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On the German autobahn my euroAccord climbs up to 225km/h (140mph) easlily. Going slightly downhill I've hit the rev limmiter several times at 248km/h (155mph). I have a manual tranny though, don't know about the AT (it should lower)...
Old 08-05-2004, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by provench
Just want to remind folks that the speedometer readout in the 130-140mph area is most likely not accurate, but a bit high. Not sure what the correction is, but my guess is C&D measured it externally (not speedo).
You are correct that C&D measures top speed externally. They had an article on how they conduct their tests at some point in the past couple of years. I think it was using a radar gun, but I don't remember for sure. I also agree that most speedometers probably read high in the 5% to 10% again from C&D where they have made comments on it their road tests. Never heard them comment on a cars speedometer reading too low though.
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Idea: next time someone tries a top speed run...

Pop the navi (if you have it) in diagnostic mode and see what the GPS says the speed is instead of using the speedometer. I've checked it at normal speeds and it's pretty accurate, but I've only peaked at 100.
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i got it up to 230 kph a few months ago. Didnt go any faster because cross wind was becoming a problem I'd say the car could peg the speedo, and thats it. Real speed was prob a tick over 200 i figure. The TSX can effortlessly hit 200 though, still in 5th. If there was no speed limit, I think 200 would be a nice cruising speed. That being said, I usually never go more than 10 over the limit, toooo many cops in calgary, and i think theres probably more photo radars than cars on the road.
Old 08-10-2004, 07:43 AM
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i-VTEC

Originally Posted by TSX Cman
the tsx COULD go faster. damn cimputers
it limits 5th gear to not enter vtec range.
it limits 6th gear really high, at 213hm/h
The TSX (Honda Accord Euro) employs i-VTEC instead of traditional VTEC technology.

i-VTEC does not have a "range" - instead the "i" for "intelligent" computer allows VTEC to be operational across the entire rev range.

Hence of course 5th gear IS in fact operational in the (i)VTEC range - which is the entire rev range.
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Originally Posted by captain-oats
The TSX (Honda Accord Euro) employs i-VTEC instead of traditional VTEC technology.

i-VTEC does not have a "range" - instead the "i" for "intelligent" computer allows VTEC to be operational across the entire rev range.

Hence of course 5th gear IS in fact operational in the (i)VTEC range - which is the entire rev range.

you're right that ivtec allows control over the entire rev range, but there is still a vtec point at which the cam swicthes to a more aggressive lobe, and on the TSX this is at 6000 rpm. So really one could say that 6000+ is vtec range on the TSX.
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Originally Posted by tony4311
no, no it's not.
what does this mean?
no its not doesnt even go along with the present/past tense choice of my statement

and im not bullshitting. i checked my top speed for the reason of checkin it. maybe canadian tsx's have a different govern level then the US model, or euro model, or jap model.
MY TSX goes the speed i stated, it tops out when i said it, and on a downhill i could not go any faster than i did unless i dropped it into neutral probably.
Old 08-10-2004, 04:32 PM
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and i dont know waht to say about the 5th gear thing. i had my foot down to the floor. it hit 6000 trevs and refused to go any faster. the second i went to 6th, the speed picked back up quite quickly.
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Originally Posted by fdl
you're right that ivtec allows control over the entire rev range, but there is still a vtec point at which the cam swicthes to a more aggressive lobe, and on the TSX this is at 6000 rpm. So really one could say that 6000+ is vtec range on the TSX.
The Honda New Zealand website agrees that there is more involved in the transition of the cam than just the rpms: As engine rpm builds, a VTC actuator - controlled by an engine-control unit that monitors cam position, ignition timing, exhaust emission and throttle position - advances or retards the intake cam.

The ECU is monitoring LOTS of variables, not just the rpms. And therein lies the beauty of i-VTEC.
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Originally Posted by TSX Cman
what does this mean?
no its not doesnt even go along with the present/past tense choice of my statement

and im not bullshitting. i checked my top speed for the reason of checkin it. maybe canadian tsx's have a different govern level then the US model, or euro model, or jap model.
MY TSX goes the speed i stated, it tops out when i said it, and on a downhill i could not go any faster than i did unless i dropped it into neutral probably.
Say what you will, Cman, some folks here have driven their TSX much quicker than what you have, such as myself, and at more than one occasion.

Maybe something was wrong, you were running with 87 or something, and your ECU was going on limp mode or whatnot.
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Originally Posted by captain-oats
The Honda New Zealand website agrees that there is more involved in the transition of the cam than just the rpms: As engine rpm builds, a VTC actuator - controlled by an engine-control unit that monitors cam position, ignition timing, exhaust emission and throttle position - advances or retards the intake cam.

The ECU is monitoring LOTS of variables, not just the rpms. And therein lies the beauty of i-VTEC.

I'm not disagreeing with you. All that stuff does happen below 6000 rpms, and that IS the beauty of i-vtec. But at 6000rpms, a completely new cam comes into play and this is what is commonly reffered to as "vtec point" or "vtec range".
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I would trust C&D numbers (at least for US versions). The speedometer is most all production cars is rather inaccurate above 100mph -- so quoting a speed from it is rather meaningless.
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Originally Posted by STL
The speedometer is most all production cars is rather inaccurate above 100mph -- so quoting a speed from it is rather meaningless.
That's interesting; I never thought of it. So when you're ticketed for super high speed can you just say that you don't know how fast you're going because the speedometer is inaccurate?
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Originally Posted by observer
That's interesting; I never thought of it. So when you're ticketed for super high speed can you just say that you don't know how fast you're going because the speedometer is inaccurate?
Nope, because they purposely make it inaccurate so that it will show your speed as being faster than you are going, not slower.
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Hmmm, Dan Martin's Garmin was pretty close to the TSX odo from what I saw. So I'm not sure exactly how inaccurate the TSX odo is. I don't think its far off.
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Unless the tach is equally off balance, I'm pretty sure the speedo is pretty damn accurate. You guys are going to have to start backing up your stuff with proof.
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At 140km/h it's within 1km/h. I'll have to try it out at higher speeds to see how accurate it is.
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How accurate is the garmin?


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