EURORTSX

Lately, i have been using my sportshift alot more, since i like to put power in when i want it. Sometimes on the freeway, when im cruising about 80 mph, i shift into 3rd, and the RPM meter moves up to a little over 3000, and when i press the gas, it revs really high. when im driving in local roads, cruising maybe about 40, i shift down into second and the same thing happens, and i get considerably more power. I was wonderin it this is bad for my car, since i am revving really high doing this and my car seems to thrust alot quicker. Anyone?

Whiskers

The SS doesn't really let you redline, so you should be ok.

Benz_05_TSX

iTrader: (1)

That's totally normal......if you drive MT..... when you want more power.....you shift down 1 gear to get power gain....

I did that too with my SS>.. it doesn't hurt it.....as long as you don't stay in the redline too long......

I thought the SS let you do redline after 3rd gear......1st n 2nd they autoshift.....but 3rd doesnt...... I think~

EURORTSX

im not sure about going back down into 1st, but is there a limit where i shouldnt shift down to 1st? i usually try to shift down to 1st only when im under 20 mph, anything higher it makes me worried about killing my tranny.

Dan Martin

There's no reason to shift into first unless you're stopped. If you're rolling, 2nd is low enough.

Jim Holloman

If you keep the revs. below 4000, then the engine, in theory, should last a little longer -- but not much. And, you will not be using all the potential of the car. The Sport Shift is great. Enjoy it.

The engine is weak when it comes to torque, so the only way to get the acceleration you sometimes need, or want, is to let the engine rev. I am usually under 4000 RPM's, but when I need, or want, to scoot, I will be up to 6000 RPM's for 2-3 seconds. That currently averages about twice a day.

In my opinion, it is better to have a load on the engine when at high RPM's, so don't drive in a lower gear than you need to -- in other words, don't be in 3rd gear when you are on a flat and at a constant speed of 60 MPH. But, passing, accelerating, climbing a hill, etc., then let the engine rev. It is better to have higher RPM's than to load down the engine. The peak of the torqe curve, if I recall correctly, is in the range of 3,000 to 4,000 RPM's.

Even if you do not use the Sport Shift, the automatic will unlock the torque converter and then downshift as needed -- but often not as quick as you would like. If you watch your RPM's when going up a steep hill in Drive, you will notice that the tach. also jumps to higher RPM's.

sleeper

the engine is designed to create most of it's power at higher revs. i think you can high-rev it every now and then, but i guess moderation is the key to keeping your car in great shape assuming you keep the car maintained very well.

i don't like high-revving a lot, but once in a long while i'll come close to red-lining it. my cousin high-revs (5-6k) his new tl often, but since it's new, we won't know for a while if it really is damaging the car.

Tsx536

I rev pretty high fairly often. Like others have said that's where the power is in our cars.

I use synthetic oil to help protect the engine and I think anyone that likes to rev high should use synthetic too.

savage

i dont know about that autoshift preventing redline...i have hit the rev limiter in 1st and 2nd before...i learned quick how fast this car can rev up...now i have mastered the SS so i can shift it right at 7000rpm

dom

It does. I've bounced off redline a few times.

And there is no 1-2 autoshift in the TSX, you can redline 1st all you like. The TL has the autoshift.

iceboy1

i have tried to rev really hard with SS. and i accidentally shift to the 2nd gear when i was at about over 60 m, but i believe the computer has prevented that it actually go into the 2nd gear since it will be hitting the red line and hurt the engine. i see that when you do that by accident, then the computer will automatically make it in the 3rd gear to prevent this kind of scenario to happen. is there anyone else had this experience before?

Tsx536

Yes it won't let you downshift to a lower gear if you're speed is too high for that gear Or if your rpms will be too high.

indydriver

The problem isn't engine wear but torque converter wear on downshifts. I had to replace the torque converter on my last manumatic (admittedly not a Honda) at about 90,000 miles. I am convinced it was due to downshifting. AT's don't seem to like it.

BusyShifter

I test drove the AT, but did not use the SS function. Do you need to let go of the accelerator when you shift in SS mode?

Dan Martin

Nope, but throttle modulation can smooth things out a bit.

sleeper

correct.

sleeper

correct.

jlukja

So Mrs. jlukja and I go shopping down in Orange County (South Coast Plaza, Fry's etc.) today. Leaving Fry's I stop at the red light at the onramp to the northbound 405, drop the shifter in SS mode, and tell Mrs. jlukja "listen to this". You see I just installed the Icebox intake last week and this was a great spot to let her hear it at its best, letting the revs unwind all the way to redline. So I floor the accelerator, listen to the engine growl and watch the tach as the revs build. As the tach swings through 7000rpm I pull back on the shifter in anticipation of a quick upshift to 2nd.



The tach bounces off the rev limiter and the engine sounds like it does a double-cough, as I lift off the throttle and quickly push on the stick to finally choose 2nd gear. Mr. jukja says "THAT didn't sound too good".

So much for showing off in front of the wife and getting by the SS.

jlukja, who needs to use SS more often to avoid moments like this.

joerockt

All the 5AT'ers are gonna bitch slap you now

pizzaman555

i have owed my TSX for about 2 and a half months now and i think i hit red line only like 3 times i havent really beat on the car yet. i want to make the car last as long as i can so i try not to beat on the car that much i didnt even use the ss yet i just pretty much cruise in the car

Savio

Beat on it while you're under warranty....

Tsx536

That's alright Jlukja, you'll have plenty of chances to impress the wife. Sounds like you need to go out and practice a little though. lol

....It takes a little to get use the the fact that the it takes a few hundred RPMS before the SS shifts, so you always have to shift a little early. I've found that one of the best ways to let people feel and hear the intake is to take a left turn and stay in first the whole time until redline. Since all of punch is in the high RPMs, you should be between 3000-4000 RPMs when you exit the turn...and then

slats

Why drive the auto anyway, when the stick is sooo much more fun???

drunkenbuda

i am pretty sure you'll get tons of replies why. If i could get an MT, i would!

Benz_05_TSX

iTrader: (1)

Everyone has their stories when comes to stick....... city traffic, parent restrictions...... *sniff*, i am sad i can't get stick too........

jlukja

I think I flashed back to my old Integra 5MT and just pulled on the SS like I would have been shifting 1>2. Sometimes I miss the old MT. I still think the SS forward-up/back-down shifting is counterintuitive but I thought I had all that behind me. practice, practice, practice ......

dom

Alin10123

The engine inside our TSX's are designed to be revved. Hence the reason for the higher than normal redline than compared with most cars. You will be ok as long as you are not at wide open throttle everytime you accelerate. Besides... Honda wouldn't have designed the Vtec to engage at 6000rpm's if it wasn't designed to go that high all the time.

Benz_05_TSX

iTrader: (1)

That's what i thought!!

When i drove conservatively, reving no more than 2500, i can feel my engine sounding pissed and unhappy. But once i revved it over 3k more often, the engine got happier and the throttle response got quicker, but now, i still drive conservative......save gas~

holdemplayer

I have a 5at and

I've accidently taken my car to 7.5k once. didnt auto shift when i was in ss mode... i was like OH SH*T and let go of the gas.


is it bad to shift early? ive been shfting early as possible to keep the revs low to save gaas.....i can get into 5th by 32mph....am i putting too much load on the engine?

TinkySD

I redline my car several times a day, so far so good

Since i've gone back to a stock intake I don't bounce off the limiter nearly as much -- when you first put on icebox/cai on the tach climbs ALOT faster when you hit 7k!

jlukja

Why'd you go back to stock?

holdemplayer

This car is just too powerful, we dont need any extra hp thats why....lol

dom

Because he's a fawkin NooB that broke his Comptech Intake

jlukja

Now I remember a post where he was tightening something down and a piece cracked and came loose. I guess this isn't one of those 1001 uses for duct tape.

peter_bigblock

Tell me what part cracked and I'll come up with a sewer pipe/electrical tape fix for you.

TinkySD

My comptech ice box still works great beyotch! I just happen to like the quietness and part throttle cruising power than the stock setup gives you.

TinkySD

That was the lower portion of the airbox...over torquing owned me. I guess I'm just too strong for my own good.