Paranoid, hypothetical question
Paranoid, hypothetical question
I wonder if, when cars with Homelink are brought in for servicing, unscrupulous techs can capture the Homelink signal to the garage door opener, easily get our addresses, then at an opportune moment, burglarize our homes. Or maybe they could sell the a garage door opener, loaded with our code, along with our address to
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
Originally Posted by vger105
I wonder if, when cars with Homelink are brought in for servicing, unscrupulous techs can capture the Homelink signal to the garage door opener, easily get our addresses, then at an opportune moment, burglarize our homes. Or maybe they could sell the a garage door opener, loaded with our code, along with our address to
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
Too Late
Here's the link.
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/id...param=en013199
This has been around for a long time. That's why now you use an encrypted rolling code generator. Still not perfect, but better.
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/id...param=en013199
This has been around for a long time. That's why now you use an encrypted rolling code generator. Still not perfect, but better.
Eventhough it's integrated into your car, the homelink system is not very different from a standard garage door opener. It just looks different because it's buttons are integrated into your car. It just sends IR signals just like any typical garage door opener.
The Homelink is susceptible to the same vulnerabilities as any other standard garage door opener. I wouldn't be extra paranoid about this, because going by your theory, a tech would be able to do the same type of thing with just a regular garage door opener that many people just leave on their visor.
Many of the garage door openers have encrypted rolling code technology. This uses a special unique key in your opener to help generate the necessary code to open the door. For those that struggled with the homelink setup, it is probably a good thing because your garage opener most likely has this rolling code technology.
I would be careful about parking my car in front of the house/on the street if you have homelink though. Someone could just break your window and open your garage.
I would lock the door between the house and garage just as a precaution though, just like X mentions above.
The Homelink is susceptible to the same vulnerabilities as any other standard garage door opener. I wouldn't be extra paranoid about this, because going by your theory, a tech would be able to do the same type of thing with just a regular garage door opener that many people just leave on their visor.
Many of the garage door openers have encrypted rolling code technology. This uses a special unique key in your opener to help generate the necessary code to open the door. For those that struggled with the homelink setup, it is probably a good thing because your garage opener most likely has this rolling code technology.
I would be careful about parking my car in front of the house/on the street if you have homelink though. Someone could just break your window and open your garage.
I would lock the door between the house and garage just as a precaution though, just like X mentions above.
Well, they're RF, not IR, but yeah.
A much better way to do it is to park in a plumber's van and record the RF signals when people come home from or leave for work in a neighborhood, for later playback. This is why practically no cars got stolen with code grabbers - they were all used by burglars.
A much better way to do it is to park in a plumber's van and record the RF signals when people come home from or leave for work in a neighborhood, for later playback. This is why practically no cars got stolen with code grabbers - they were all used by burglars.
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Originally Posted by vger105
I wonder if, when cars with Homelink are brought in for servicing, unscrupulous techs can capture the Homelink signal to the garage door opener, easily get our addresses, then at an opportune moment, burglarize our homes. Or maybe they could sell the a garage door opener, loaded with our code, along with our address to
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
Originally Posted by elduderino
Well, they're RF, not IR, but yeah.
I love the RF remote I have at my house. I like to turn the channel from another room while my friends are watching tv. They all start getting paranoid and looking around
I think it is a valid concern especially in area where you have hi-tech theives.
It is similar to identity theft and online thefts...As long as you are not victim, you will think it is paranoia but these are real crimes and lot of people are victimized every year.
It is similar to identity theft and online thefts...As long as you are not victim, you will think it is paranoia but these are real crimes and lot of people are victimized every year.
Originally Posted by jackofall
I think it is a valid concern especially in area where you have hi-tech theives.
It is similar to identity theft and online thefts...As long as you are not victim, you will think it is paranoia but these are real crimes and lot of people are victimized every year.
It is similar to identity theft and online thefts...As long as you are not victim, you will think it is paranoia but these are real crimes and lot of people are victimized every year.
Something that actually happened to me:
I once left my wife's new Avalon XLS at a service station for state inspection.
When I returned 2 hrs later, they said it was done but they couldn't find the key.
I gotta admit, I'm a little paranoid about my cars too, so I raised holy #$%& with the station manager until they agreed to pay ($250) to have the car rekeyed. My fear was that one of the guys in the shop could pocket the key, look up my address (on the service slip), and drop by later while I slept to pick up "their" new ride.
I kinda felt like a jackass, but like I said, I'm paranoid.
Y'all think I handled it the right way? Should I have let it slide?
When I returned 2 hrs later, they said it was done but they couldn't find the key.
I gotta admit, I'm a little paranoid about my cars too, so I raised holy #$%& with the station manager until they agreed to pay ($250) to have the car rekeyed. My fear was that one of the guys in the shop could pocket the key, look up my address (on the service slip), and drop by later while I slept to pick up "their" new ride.
I kinda felt like a jackass, but like I said, I'm paranoid.
Y'all think I handled it the right way? Should I have let it slide?
Originally Posted by dralph.
Should I have let it slide? ![:]](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif)
![:]](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif)
Originally Posted by LannyM
I shred mine before I pay them
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I do shred my bills too. If I'm not buy a shredder I rip up areas that show my address and/or account info. I'm also very careful about any website that a purchase items from using my credit card. I'm guess I'm paranoid when it comes to identify theft too.
Originally Posted by JTso
LOL! Man, you are paranoid. You know, the people who work at the bank is emptying out your bank account now. Oh wait, do you put money in the bank? 

;o)
Going along with this; my mother-in-law lives in a gated community. She has a bar code in the back side window of her car, to allow her to gain entrance. I wonder if i could take a phtograph of it, make the barcode the correct size, and ZIP, I'm in.
Then I could use the garage door opener I purchased from that tech and.......;o)
Then I could use the garage door opener I purchased from that tech and.......;o)
Originally Posted by vger105
I wonder if, when cars with Homelink are brought in for servicing, unscrupulous techs can capture the Homelink signal to the garage door opener, easily get our addresses, then at an opportune moment, burglarize our homes. Or maybe they could sell the a garage door opener, loaded with our code, along with our address to
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
some evil-doer.
Holy Felony Batman!
Your garage door is like a fence.
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haha guess they don't trust me
