TSX69

Kiplinger.com
E.P.A. Classification: Compact Cars

2007 City = 22
2007 Hwy = 31
2008 City = 19
2008 Hwy = 29

keg1997

We've always gotten right within the old EPA mileage on our vehicles. I consistently get 26-29 MPG with a typical suburban/urban commute in my TSX. A full out highway trip brings me 31-33 MPG...depending upon how far north of 70 I go.

Same thing on our Pathfinder....it is rated at 15/19 and we consistently get 17/18 with the same driving conditions as described above. On our highway trips to HH, SC or NJ, we get 19-21.

My wife and I don't drive our vehicles like we stole 'em, but we sure as hell don't granny them. I would think that we're typical drivers who may lean a wee bit towards the "hard drivers" side. At least I definitely do

I did notice when I looked a good bit at the new EPA mileage figures, that it impacted 4 and 6 cylinders much more than the 8 cylinder SUVs. For example, the new method only took 1MPG off of the Escalade, Denali, and QX56. 2MPG off the Acadia and 4MPG off the 4 cylinder Camry.

It was just interesting to note some of the differences....

keg1997

Interesting summary of the new EPA changes:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...ids-usat_x.htm

owkone

Same experience as keg 1997. 24-26 mixed driving, and approx 32 highway. Lowest so far 22 mpg during the peak cold.

LuvMyTSX

My mileage is also much closer to the old estimates. I get 24-28 mpg in suburban driving and definitely into the 30s in highway driving.

BlacknBlue

Maybe the changes are due to the discovery over inaccurate odometers...

taylor314gh

do you think the inaccurate odometer thing is why the mpg calculated by the car is always a few mpg more than actual?

ck123

the new style imo is more accurate

TSX69

I have always heard that Honda engines get better w/ age. This seems to be true w/ my 2004 TSX:

During the 1st year, I got around 300 miles on a tank of gas (trip computer suggested around ~23mpg but I think that the computer is a little generous when calculating).

2nd year it suddenly jumped to ~320 miles on a tank of gas even tho nothing changed in my driving habits or route (trip computer said ~25mpg)

Now in my 3rd year, I have been fiddling w/ my driving in preparation of potentially buying a hybrid (coasting more, accelerating slowly ...) I get about 360 miles on a tank of gas (trip computer says ~28mpg). Not sure if this has to do w/ age or my new style of driving but probably a combination of both.

jwood_06TSX

I don't know if it is commute that ruins my gas mileage, but my 04 5AT only would get me about 18-20 and now my brand new 06 is still only getting me 19-21 MPG. It is a little better in the summer months but i think my commute to the train station each day which is only 2.88 miles is what kills it. I go outside and start it up and let it run for about 3-4 mins on the really cold mornings and then if i get to the train station early it runs there for a little too. I hate having to do it but i would freeze otherwise. My MID though has been within .8 MPG of what i calculated myself though so that i at least good.

Will my 06 get better mileage as it breaks in more? I only have 880 miles on it now and on my 3rd tank of gas.

petthepeep

Letting it "warm up" is def killing your gas milage. I've watched my trip computer at stop lights, and just sitting at a red light (1 min tops) sometimes drops the avg mpg by about 0.2. Honestly, your better off driving around for those first couple minutes. It takes less time to warm up, and you'll improve your milage. Letting it "warm-up" doesn't really do anything. By just idling, it would take about 20 min for the car to come up to operating tempurature.

rb1

Yes, warming up = 0 mpg, and additional wear on motor since you want to keep running time while engine is cold to an absolute minimum, and it takes longer to warm up idling than it does driving.

Sure, you want to drive "gently" while the engine is cold, but it's better on it than sitting there, and you'll get better gas mileage.

Combustion products have water vapor on them, and when the engine is cold this condenses on the cylinder walls until they warm enough to be above the "dew point" (:gheylaugh: ) of the combustion gas. It doesn't take long, but the condensation is acidic and washes into the oil and (over time) eats into rings and cylinder walls, etc.

gtg710w

I think the new gas mileage is closer to actual figure toward people like me who does 95-100% city driving. that new figure is exactly what I've been getting, since I got the car.