Lexus IS 250
#82
Originally Posted by ianS
Me too. But one of my neighbour really get 2 TSX for there family. 1 pwp and 1 ssm.
#83
Originally Posted by sveet
Twice the build quality.
Much better dealer support and experience.
Uses the wheels God intended to power the car (the rears!).
Those three are enough for me to justify the $$$.
Much better dealer support and experience.
Uses the wheels God intended to power the car (the rears!).
Those three are enough for me to justify the $$$.
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Okay, so I don't remember where I read this, but it was a pretty reputable source: the Mark Levinson audio system will be a $4,000 option. I don't *think* that includes the navi system.
If you think about it, for Levinson to put their name on a factory system, it's not going to be cheap. Their home audio components cost anywhere from, what, about $8,000 to $50,000. They certainly wouldn't offer a "mere" $1,000 car audio system.
The new IS looks really great to me, but I wound up buying a TSX. The IS will just be too pricey for me with anything but the base features, and the 350 won't have a manual transmission! Sheesh.
If you think about it, for Levinson to put their name on a factory system, it's not going to be cheap. Their home audio components cost anywhere from, what, about $8,000 to $50,000. They certainly wouldn't offer a "mere" $1,000 car audio system.
The new IS looks really great to me, but I wound up buying a TSX. The IS will just be too pricey for me with anything but the base features, and the 350 won't have a manual transmission! Sheesh.
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Originally Posted by sveet
Twice the build quality.
Much better dealer support and experience.
Uses the wheels God intended to power the car (the rears!).
Those three are enough for me to justify the $$$.
Much better dealer support and experience.
Uses the wheels God intended to power the car (the rears!).
Those three are enough for me to justify the $$$.
Which "God" are you refering to?
How do you know what is his intention?
Are you the Pope?
Oh, and if you are, can you ask him why he dislike New Orleans?
People making this type of statement using his name to serve their own private agenda irk me big time.
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Originally Posted by BusyShifter
Which "God" are you refering to?
How do you know what is his intention?
Are you the Pope?
Oh, and if you are, can you ask him why he dislike New Orleans?
People making this type of statement using his name to serve their own private agenda irk me big time.
How do you know what is his intention?
Are you the Pope?
Oh, and if you are, can you ask him why he dislike New Orleans?
People making this type of statement using his name to serve their own private agenda irk me big time.
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Are you serious? Its a figure of speech.
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
so you're a next door neighbour to this house? across the elementary school?
#94
Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
you can't completely turn off VDIM!!
#95
Originally Posted by dom
I seriously doubt a IS250 will be any quicker in acceleration tests or in day to day driving considering it weighs a few hundred more pounds. If it is quicker, it won't be by much.
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Originally Posted by Bill Hook
I hope Car and Driver runs a TSX, IS 250, Legacy GT comparison before I buy next Fall.
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Originally Posted by Bill Hook
I hope Car and Driver runs a TSX, IS 250, Legacy GT comparison before I buy next Fall.
I think we'll see
TSX vs, IS250 vs A4 2.0 vs S40 T5 vs Leg GT
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#99
Originally Posted by ianS
You know which house I am talking about(Village Gate Parkway)? No, I am not the next door that house. I am on the inner crescent that across that house. So are you living in that area too?
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Originally Posted by rtyk
That's the house I have seen with the 2 TSX's as well. I am around the corner from Village Gate Parkway off Calvert Road. There is another silver one on my crescent as well as one across from the school on Calvert.
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#102
Originally Posted by RX8
Okay, so I don't remember where I read this, but it was a pretty reputable source: the Mark Levinson audio system will be a $4,000 option. I don't *think* that includes the navi system.
If you think about it, for Levinson to put their name on a factory system, it's not going to be cheap. Their home audio components cost anywhere from, what, about $8,000 to $50,000. They certainly wouldn't offer a "mere" $1,000 car audio system.
The new IS looks really great to me, but I wound up buying a TSX. The IS will just be too pricey for me with anything but the base features, and the 350 won't have a manual transmission! Sheesh.
If you think about it, for Levinson to put their name on a factory system, it's not going to be cheap. Their home audio components cost anywhere from, what, about $8,000 to $50,000. They certainly wouldn't offer a "mere" $1,000 car audio system.
The new IS looks really great to me, but I wound up buying a TSX. The IS will just be too pricey for me with anything but the base features, and the 350 won't have a manual transmission! Sheesh.
Might want to re-check your source.
The ES Nav+ML is 3100 just 900 over Nav alone
The ML on the GS is 1250
The GX has Nav/audio for 3050 including rearview camera
The LS has the Modern Lux package for 4980 with a lower $1390 package plus Nav, ML, Bluetooth and rear view cam
The RX has the ML/Nav at 6790 which includes a 2960 lower package, nav, ML, rearview and Bluetooth.
Bottom line the ML systems run from under 1k to under 2k so ML does supply their name for even less than 1k already! Indeed if the ML package is 4K then it most certainly includes Nav but everything I have seen indicates it will be roughly 1k, only available with nav, very few will come outside special order.
#103
Originally Posted by vpat25
twice the build quality!?!?
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My wife has had two Lexus RX's. One problem, total. One loaner, for the day. 80K combined miles.
The IS may not be built as well as a RX, but I can't even imagine that any domestic is built any worse than my TSX.........................at least none that I have ever owned, and some of those were pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by savageTL
Might want to re-check your source.
The ES Nav+ML is 3100 just 900 over Nav alone
The ML on the GS is 1250
The GX has Nav/audio for 3050 including rearview camera
The LS has the Modern Lux package for 4980 with a lower $1390 package plus Nav, ML, Bluetooth and rear view cam
The RX has the ML/Nav at 6790 which includes a 2960 lower package, nav, ML, rearview and Bluetooth.
Bottom line the ML systems run from under 1k to under 2k so ML does supply their name for even less than 1k already! Indeed if the ML package is 4K then it most certainly includes Nav but everything I have seen indicates it will be roughly 1k, only available with nav, very few will come outside special order.
The ES Nav+ML is 3100 just 900 over Nav alone
The ML on the GS is 1250
The GX has Nav/audio for 3050 including rearview camera
The LS has the Modern Lux package for 4980 with a lower $1390 package plus Nav, ML, Bluetooth and rear view cam
The RX has the ML/Nav at 6790 which includes a 2960 lower package, nav, ML, rearview and Bluetooth.
Bottom line the ML systems run from under 1k to under 2k so ML does supply their name for even less than 1k already! Indeed if the ML package is 4K then it most certainly includes Nav but everything I have seen indicates it will be roughly 1k, only available with nav, very few will come outside special order.
#105
Originally Posted by dom
I think we'll see
TSX vs, IS250 vs A4 2.0 vs S40 T5 vs Leg GT![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
TSX vs, IS250 vs A4 2.0 vs S40 T5 vs Leg GT
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Don't believe me? Visit www.swedespeed.com and check out the forums. I was seriously considering a V50 T5 until I started reading about the horrific reliability problems.
#106
Originally Posted by xjdmb16a2six
yeah. dude 4k just for upgraded stereo system it better sound like your sitting in a musical theater.
That is encouraging that ML audio may not be a $4K option. I'll have to try to figure out where I saw that.
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IS is a nice looking car. Lexus has a great rep. Lexus builds great quality cars.
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You'll be driving the same model for 10 years with no update (the IS). You'll be paying for every single option on the car.
RWD is not 'GOD' as some of you put it. RWD in 1-2 feet of snow = not going anywhere. AWD on the otherhand is a different story.
also
You'll be driving the same model for 10 years with no update (the IS). You'll be paying for every single option on the car.
RWD is not 'GOD' as some of you put it. RWD in 1-2 feet of snow = not going anywhere. AWD on the otherhand is a different story.
#108
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Originally Posted by BusyShifter
Which "God" are you refering to?
How do you know what is his intention?
Are you the Pope?
Oh, and if you are, can you ask him why he dislike New Orleans?
People making this type of statement using his name to serve their own private agenda irk me big time.
How do you know what is his intention?
Are you the Pope?
Oh, and if you are, can you ask him why he dislike New Orleans?
People making this type of statement using his name to serve their own private agenda irk me big time.
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Hey, looks like talking about religion or politics will get you into trouble, even on a car forum. but this is still America, say whatever you what and no need for apologies.
I'd consider the IS because of the Lexus brand, but if the rear seats are too tiny or the price too high, then forget about it. There are plenty of choices out there.
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Originally Posted by TMQ
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Hey, looks like talking about religion or politics will get you into trouble, even on a car forum. but this is still America, say whatever you what and no need for apologies.
I'd consider the IS because of the Lexus brand, but if the rear seats are too tiny or the price too high, then forget about it. There are plenty of choices out there.
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Originally Posted by narci
IS is a nice looking car. Lexus has a great rep. Lexus builds great quality cars.
also
You'll be driving the same model for 10 years with no update (the IS). You'll be paying for every single option on the car.
RWD is not 'GOD' as some of you put it. RWD in 1-2 feet of snow = not going anywhere. AWD on the otherhand is a different story.
also
You'll be driving the same model for 10 years with no update (the IS). You'll be paying for every single option on the car.
RWD is not 'GOD' as some of you put it. RWD in 1-2 feet of snow = not going anywhere. AWD on the otherhand is a different story.
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Originally Posted by TMQ
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Hey, looks like talking about religion or politics will get you into trouble, even on a car forum. but this is still America, say whatever you what and no need for apologies.
No this isn't America this is Acurazine. A PRIVATELY owned community with rules where saying what you want CAN get you in trouble. (see Banned)
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#112
I think the IS looks like an accord front + Mazda back, with illegal copy of TSX interior, don't you? Man... be innovative!
Do you guys turn off your TSX's VSA often? Why bitch about IS not able to turn that off?
I thought safety is important for most of us??![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
IS vs TSX, all comes down to whoever rattles less?![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Do you guys turn off your TSX's VSA often? Why bitch about IS not able to turn that off?
I thought safety is important for most of us??
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IS vs TSX, all comes down to whoever rattles less?
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Originally Posted by ianS
I agree RWD is not 'GOD' but I dun agree RWD in 1-2 feet of snow = not going. There are something call "Winter Tire". I drive my RWD all year in Toronto without a problem. It is just as good as my TSX.
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Originally Posted by TMQ
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Hey, looks like talking about religion or politics will get you into trouble, even on a car forum. but this is still America, say whatever you what and no need for apologies.
I'd consider the IS because of the Lexus brand, but if the rear seats are too tiny or the price too high, then forget about it. There are plenty of choices out there.
Really, the point I tried to make is, religion does not play a role in buying a new car. If one wants to use religion to justify for the purchasing, so be it; I just feel it is silly.
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Originally Posted by dom
No this isn't America this is Acurazine. A PRIVATELY owned community with rules where saying what you want CAN get you in trouble. (see Banned)
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Man, why cannot this place be like the good old U.S.A, where everything goes, and everyone is equal?
#116
another tsx member interested in the new IS mmmmmMmm.. lol
Might be slower, but atleast i would feel some torque, and get to mess with the rwd... Also have more looks and status... Can't wait!
Might be slower, but atleast i would feel some torque, and get to mess with the rwd... Also have more looks and status... Can't wait!
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IS 250 aint never gonna happen to me, i would either keep TSX or get IS 350, no point get 250 and always later on drool over 350... what if.... oh man, coulda .. shoulda... ok. would this MOD make me catch up to 350? would that mode make me faster than other 250? ...... no man........ I LOVE the IS, but if IS is ever gonna happen to me. its gonna be 350.................
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just piggy back on last one... my last car was CL-S... if i were to get a classification of cars. i wont drool at the ones that are higher class than mine. but i would get the HIghest possible in that class. like CL-S instead of CL. the car before that was 3.0 CL instead of 2.2 CL.......... most of memeber here talk about mod... just save the money. get 350.. get it into ur monthly payment... probably save more money than spend on MOD later
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#119
I really think tsx is better car than is250.... rear sway bar + a-spec suspension and couple of engine mod will make tsx very agressive and nice handling car... i would rather get 350z... if i was going for more speed... but tsx and is250 are compromised between luxury and speed...