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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I think for how much it is going up in price they should consider upping the quality.
I mean $30k for "leather trimmed", "leather-look", "metal-look", "wood-look" interior?
Even the acessories, like the steering wheel are "wood-look" and "metal-look" and "leather-look" and it's like $500!
I mean at least offer an option perhaps to get real wood, real metal, real leather,
instead of plastic and vinyl.
While true that the not-so-cheap accessories could be the real things, I thought some consensus had been made that most of the TSX seat is leather. That seems like the most important leather portion of the cabin.

Plus, since when is having leather vs vinyl or wood vs plood a sign of lack of quality. You can have excellent quality vinyl or plood just as much as you can have crappy quality leather and wood. Your point is moot.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by eidji
While true that the not-so-cheap accessories could be the real things, I thought some consensus had been made that most of the TSX seat is leather. That seems like the most important leather portion of the cabin.
I agree that the entire seating surface is leather, but many people here are confused thinking only the perforated stuff is leather. Of course that arguement should be in an entirely different thread.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikki
I never said that the TSX would be the same price.
Obviously the TSX is still cheaper, but you said to name cars under $30k.
I said name cars under $30k because that what you were about -- and I said name ones that come in at that price WITH all the features the TSX has. I'm still waiting for a valid answer.


Originally Posted by Nikki
The TSX is $27,890; the A4 is $29,760.
The TSX has leather trimmed seats; the A4 has leather seats.
When I went to www.audiusa.com and selected the A4 and added leather, it showed a price higher than $30k -- and that's without MANY of the features the TSX has standard!
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by STL
I agree that the entire seating surface is leather, but many people here are confused thinking only the perforated stuff is leather. Of course that arguement should be in an entirely different thread.

Thats because the preforated part IS the only real leather. This has been discussed several times. The sides and seat backs are vinyl.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Thats because the preforated part IS the only real leather. This has been discussed several times. The sides and seat backs are vinyl.
I've read all the discussions and depsite what you're implying, not everyone agrees with your statement.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Sweet...another STL vs Moderator fight
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Sweet...another STL vs Moderator fight
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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or you could by the jdm euro r inner tails cause they are the same probably would be able to get the parts faster too.
The JDM EuroR inner tails are smoked also?

Hmmm.....on second thought, I may want the tail light with the integrated rear fog light. Where can I get that?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=leather+real

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=leather+real

I guess there's never been a definitive answer but IMO is very obvious that only the prefortaed parts are leather. Well that and the fact that Acura calls it a "Leather Trimmed" interior and not a "Leather interior".

And in that second link Dan Martin says he's 100% sure only the prefoarted parts are leather. Thats good enough for me
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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hey everyone!

it's double :troutslap time again!!!

i love when they get into it...
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Smoked JDM tails would be cool.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Any idea if the memory seat mechanism would be transferrable to the 04/05s?

It'd be nice to see the parts description for this. Wonder how difficult...
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by z-tec
hey everyone!

it's double :troutslap time again!!!

i love when they get into it...

I think we need a poll
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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ive got to say, im lovin the TSX with the body kit
the green is also growin on me
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
My neighbour, who happens to be a saddle maker, has looked at all three of my Acuras and ensures me that only the actual seating surface is leather and the remainder vinyl.

My son who repairs car interiors for the car rental companies has of course seen my cars and confirmed that only the actual seating surface and the part your back contacts is leather. I can't really tell the difference but the first time my son saw my car he could tell the minute the door was opened that most of the seat's surfaces weren't leather.

Because of this I use products made for leather (Lexol) on the leather and vinyl products (303) on the vinyl.

This has to be one of the most discussed subjects on all acura forums.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by feliz
My neighbour, who happens to be a saddle maker, has looked at all three of my Acuras and ensures me that only the actual seating surface is leather and the remainder vinyl.

My son who repairs car interiors for the car rental companies has of course seen my cars and confirmed that only the actual seating surface and the part your back contacts is leather. I can't really tell the difference but the first time my son saw my car he could tell the minute the door was opened that most of the seat's surfaces weren't leather.

Because of this I use products made for leather (Lexol) on the leather and vinyl products (303) on the vinyl.

This has to be one of the most discussed subjects on all acura forums.
Copying this in my new thread.

I don't think its immediately evident upon looking inside the car but a quick study makes it obvious IMO.

Of course STL knows better, he's sat in a TSX a few times while I sit it in everyday.

j/k STL but you get my point.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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I can't believe we're not seeing any driving reports of the 06 seeing as how this is the release date in the US. Not at the dealers yet?

My dealer just called and said my 06, ordered two months ago, will be unloaded off the ship the 15th or 16th and that he'll pick it up at the docks himself and drive it to his store and I'll have it soon after.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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i drove an 06, i think 04 is better!
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
i drove an 06, i think 04 is better!
Hey jiggaman, don't leave it like that. Details?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by feliz
My neighbour, who happens to be a saddle maker, has looked at all three of my Acuras and ensures me that only the actual seating surface is leather and the remainder vinyl.

My son who repairs car interiors for the car rental companies has of course seen my cars and confirmed that only the actual seating surface and the part your back contacts is leather. I can't really tell the difference but the first time my son saw my car he could tell the minute the door was opened that most of the seat's surfaces weren't leather.

Because of this I use products made for leather (Lexol) on the leather and vinyl products (303) on the vinyl.

This has to be one of the most discussed subjects on all acura forums.
That's exactly what I think too. That was the conclusion after MUCH debate on the S2ki.com . I compared the seats in the TSX's I've been in to the seats in my S2000, and I think they are made the same stuff.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
i drove an 06, i think 04 is better!
Why jiggaman? Was the increase in hp noticeable?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by feliz
Why jiggaman? Was the increase in hp noticeable?
He's just joking...he hasn't driven an '06 TSX yet.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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He's just joking...he hasn't driven an '06 TSX yet.
I kinda gathered that but I thought I'd bite anyway.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by STL
When I went to www.audiusa.com and selected the A4 and added leather, it showed a price higher than $30k -- and that's without MANY of the features the TSX has standard!
Apparently someone doesn't drive a stick.

And the only part of the seat that is leather is the perferated part. The bolsters, back, etc. are all vinyl.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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you know for people that complain that the problem with the car that it doesn't come with real leather etc...you know for a sub 30k car...you can have someone for a thousand or two install real leather over/replacing it and have even better quality leather that comes with some cars these days...
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikki
I never said that the TSX would be the same price.
Obviously the TSX is still cheaper, but you said to name cars under $30k.

The TSX is $27,890; the A4 is $29,760.
The TSX has leather trimmed seats; the A4 has leather seats.
The A4, until the current iteration, only offered "leather seating surfaces" even with the leather package on the 1.8T. And even that would push the 1.8 price over $30K... you want real leather? $1,500 or more please. Navigation? Not even available until the current one, but fork over your arm, thank you drive thru. How about a sunroof? Have to get the package, and that requires your leg. Have fun hobbling.

Using the A4's price and "value" or "quality" in an argument is the surest way to lose it.

I gotta say though, I hope that the leather/non-leather difference is as unoticeable in the Acura as it is in my Audi. I really don't think that I would have known had I not seen the window sticker.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Well the good news is that you can always replace the leather!! You can't add a moonroof, incorporate an integrated navi system, integrate bluetooth etc etc w/o paying a hefty fee.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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^^ by replace i mean if it wears out bad enough in the future.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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the extra weight of the 06 is very noticeable around corners and when braking...
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Well my leather has held up fine, but the leatherette bolster it what is beginning to crack.
I've heard this is a common problem and it's only been one year.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikki
Apparently someone doesn't drive a stick.
Actually I do, but I did pick silver as the color. It's pathetic they charge almost $500 extra for that! LOL You still haven't shown me a car with all the features of a TSX with full leather for less than $30k.

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And the only part of the seat that is leather is the perferated part. The bolsters, back, etc. are all vinyl.
Wrong again -- see Feliz's post.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
the extra weight of the 06 is very noticeable around corners and when braking...
with extra hp and only a 25lb increase...? and its "very noticeablem" i highly doubt it...
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
the extra weight of the 06 is very noticeable around corners and when braking...
Right...
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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i'm glad that i bought the 04, 06 drives like a boat
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Well my leather has held up fine, .
I take my dog for a walk or swim every day in my 98 CL so the rear seat is always covered in sand, dirt, wet etc and when I occasionaly take the car to a car wash and can actually see the leather/vinyl I'm always amazed that the seat is in perfect condition, not a mark on it. I don't really care if it's vinyl or leather to tell the truth. I don't think any/many new cars have the option of cloth, vinyl, or leather any more but when they did I always opted for cloth. It did get dirty though.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
i'm glad that i bought the 04, 06 drives like a boat
Funny, I held out for an 06 because I thought the 04 drove like a Buick!!
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Funny, I held out for an 06 because I thought the 04 drove like a Buick!!
Why would the 06 drive less like a buick than the 04?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Why would the 06 drive less like a buick than the 04?
Too light.
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