gsrthomas

Its not like I cannot afford permium. When gas prices go over $3.00 I think its just a waste of money to fill up with premium. Call me cheap or whatever but last tank I filled up 89 octane. Filled up 87 a couple times do. It all depends on my mood.

youngTL

Actually, around here, premium is 11.2c/L more. So in other words, over a 55L fillup, I'm spending an extra $6.16 per tank, and I use about 1 tank per week. But, the TSX gets slightly better mileage than a V6 Accord MT (I've been averaging 11.2L/100km pure city on the past few fillups. It seems to be improving as the car breaks in). With the acceleration that I like to have, it's pretty much a wash either way. But problem number 2 was not being able to afford the extra $3k or so for a TSX in the first place.

Let's assume for a second the TSX gets 9.4L/100km in the city (VERY conservative considering it's rated at close to the V6 Accord, but I'm assuming members city postings at 25mpg for pure city). That means the Accord is using 7.24 extra litres for 400km worth of driving (my average week). The TSX comes out cheaper on gas by $2 or so in that case. But when my mom borrowed a TSX, I was averaging 11.6L/100km because of how I like my acceleration. But like I said the price of fuel is pretty much a wash between the two. The TL is a different story altogether.

I guess I'm admitting that the real reason I bought the 6MT Accord was because it's fast in a straight line and was cheaper to purchase. And I still stand by my point that if you can afford the TSX then the price for fuel isn't that bad.

ie: I'm jealous that the TSX handles better and has a nicer interior and I'm jealous I couldn't afford one in every way except straight line speed.

Meinbeast

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n3ok318

iTrader: (1)

damn.. who cares?

let them do whatever they wanna do to their cars

this thread is like "if you are going to rice out ur TSX, then don't buy one"

Meinbeast

TOUCHE .....what a stupid thread.


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a slow transformation for a slow mind

drigo

key words..."girls/women"...that probably has nothing to do with affording the gas...more like they just don't know any better...

drigo

^^^but yeah...i only put 93 octane in mine...i'd rather spend the money on the higher octane gas than spend it on maintenance for not putting the recommended gas...

Stokeless_TSX

$3.29 in SD right now and rising....=(

isamu

filling up your tsx with regular gas is like filling up regular for s2000. Just doesn't make sense. What is the point of getting a TSX if you don't appreciate the wonderful engine and utilizing it to it's fullest potential.

sauceman

...And you've participated three times to this thread, all very intelligent posts might I add.

CCColtsicehockey

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what the fuck is up with all these stupid retard n00bs on the board lately

CCColtsicehockey

how the fuck would it be notorious of me. first off you got a whole fucking 16 posts there big boy.

second off 3/4 the threads I create in TSX Discussion is for Friday Post Whoring so there isnt really ment to be a meaning to them. You dont obviously get the point of them so thats ok. If you dont know how shit works then dont try to talk about it.

CCColtsicehockey

yeah they have been real intelligent posts I love it when random noobs pop in there

paranode

I think it's a valid point. Yeah people can do what they want with their cars, but putting 87 in an engine that is designed for 91 is essentially misuse. The engine knocks and the computer recalibrates for the lower-quality gas and in the end you aren't really saving much because your car loses power and efficiency. If the price difference between the two is a problem then maybe look at the Accord or some other car. JMHO.

CCColtsicehockey

acn684

The price difference is insignificant...i don't even know why people would put 87...its a matter of 20-30 cents to the gallon difference? So usually on a say, 15 gallon fill up, you pay 5 measly dollars more? so tsx has about, lets say low ended 25 mpg. avg driver gets 15000 miles a year, so thats about 600 gallons of gas consumed a year. Which is approxmiately 40 or so fill ups? It stumps me why people would screw around with the fuel recommendation to save 180 dollars to the year...when its going to cut their engine life, increase required amounts of maintenence, that would easily kill that difference to like 20 bucks...or even worst, negative.

bradykp

i dont think it will damage the car in the long run, as the ECU will adjust. well, i guess it depends on your definition of damage. if people want the style of the TSX but don't want to pay for premium (for whatever reason), then so be it, the ECU will just give them less power, which most people aren't buying it for power anyways.

It's nicer than an Accord either way IMO. but i doubt many people actually can't afford premium for the TSX, that seems like a weak reason to not buy premium when you have a $400-500/mo car payment!

CCColtsicehockey

^^^^ with less power it becomes less fuel efficent and with that he defeated the purpose of one of his reason of buying it because it was efficent.

bradykp

you said it. i didnt even have to post. i don't see fuel cost as a compelling reason to get/not get a car when the other car gets similar mileage. the difference just is not that great....though oil did hit $72/barrel yesterday....damn people in their SUVs driving up the cost of oil!

BusyShifter

and Must because of the weather is getting warmer.

BusyShifter

I voted yes -- I don't think people should be stretching that much to own a car, and probably would be better to allocate the money somewhere else, if they really cannot afford premium and have to settle with regular gas.

Though, it's their cars, and their choice.

LuvMyTSX

This is what drives me crazy about my parents constantly telling me "You have expensive taste" blah blah blah when they talk about gas. What's ironic, is that they have a Chrysler Cirrus, which is smaller than the TSX (albeit with a V6), and it's only rated 19/27 mpg, whereas the TSX is around 23/31. Their car takes regular, the TSX premium....there's barely a difference so it just cracks me up (and annoys me at the same time) that they make fun of me for having to buy premium.

Proper

I voted no... I pump 89 on a consistent basis... Money is not an issue. Car runs fine on 89 and a few bucks is a few bucks... No matter how you look at it.

I have to agree with a few others that the thread title seems very negative and close minded though... So if I can afford to put premium but choose not to is it ok that I bought a TSX? I did pay cash for my car... Just because someone puts a lower octane fuel in their TSX doesn't mean they cant afford it.

No disrespect, you seem to be pretty intellegent in most of your posts. But this one seems like you are trying to stir up an arguement(I would say debate but your thread title seems Pretty hostile)

Any how interesting topic

STL

But isn't it true that the ECU doesn't do that until after the engine "hears" a knock? If so, then strictly speaking some damage (albeit very slight) has already occurred before the ECU retards the timing.

STL

I wonder how many people would still run less than 91 octance if they realized their purported cost savings at the pump only leads to lesser fuel economy -- which totally negates their "savings"?

bradykp

when i put 93 in, i get slightly worse than when i put 91 in. so should i start flaming the people who put 93 in, as they flame the ones who put 87 or 89?

(i dont think you did drigo, just pointing out the rediculous thread topic)

bradykp

listen man, we all know you're passionate about your car, but you don't see anyone starting threads that say "If you can't afford to buy a JDM Accord and Ship it to the states, than don't buy a TSX and spend all your time and money transforming it"

point is, people do what they want with their cars, it's a free country and you get way too worked up in some of your posts.

Can't we all just get along? How about removing the use of some of the crap language spewed for no reason and the dramatic over reactions? jeez.

if people want to save a couple bucks and put 87 in their car, many of us think it's stupid and don't agree, but who cares? there car will be fine, the ECU will adjust, and they'll lose some performance. I doubt they are racing anyways.

sauceman

The day I realized this was the next day after I last filled up with 87.

STL

If that is really true, then it's most likely because the 93 is a lesser quality gasoline than the 91 you're buying -- it's not because of the octane difference per se.

bradykp

people always want money in their pocket now.....and usually don't consider the long run.

putting 87 or 89 is a negligable effect, especially if it's 89. not only is the mileage different, but it's barely a price difference too.

same reason towns won't start recycling programs, or other things that have upfront costs, but long term savings (recycling in my town won't happen because all the old folks don't want to pay for it, but garbage collection fees just went up by 2x because the amount of garbage our neighborhood produces).

people just don't undertsand that you're gonna pay for it in some way.

go by the generic DVD player for $20, and when it breaks in 2 years, go get another one and so on. or get a decent brand for $150, and have it for 5-10 years.

money in pocket now > money in pocket later to most people.

lump sum lottery or annuity?

jackacc

Here is a fuel cost estimator and you can do the math as to what it will cost you per year:

http://www.koa.com/fuelcalculator/

For current price put the cost of regular and for anticipated price put the cost of premium. It will show you what it adds up to over the course of a year... it's peanuts.

(sorry if this is a repost, I didn't look through all the responses)

EastBayTSX

Personally, I put in regular 89 from the name brand gas stations (ie Chevron, 76, Shell, etc.) every 5 or 6 fill ups and then the next fill up I'll switch over to 91 1 time. Then I repeat the cycle all over again. I was told this by my dealer, the general manager, and the machenic who worked on my first oil change at 5,000 miles. However, this is just me and it works fine. That's just my though

waTSX

I'm surprised 23% disagree with this statement.

sauceman

I'm in there. But I agree with the idea, just not the narrowness of the statement. Although I understand CCC's point, so I'm playing mostly devil's advocate (and a little jackass too).

jlukja

JKV808TSX

Oh well... gas prices just went up again for the 3rd time in about less than a month here in Hawaii.. if you cant afford to put the proper gas octane in ur TSX.. hell if I care ..you do what u want to YOUR CAR..but then again.. just dont btich when ur car starts knocking, making weird noises and what not..

I wouldnt low ball on my car.. and when it does come to the point where I cant put the proper octane.. then I just wont drive my car. there's always the bus!

youngTL

Most people don't understand that you get the optimum fuel economy on the RECOMMENDED grade of gasoline that your car is designed for. 95% of people probably don't even measure their fuel economy. They just go to the gas station when it's time to fill up. I meticulously monitor mine, but I know my parents haven't even once in all the years they've been driving.

bradykp

i get them both at sunoco at the same station. if the TSX is configured to run at 91, then wouldn't it make sense in both directions....

bradykp

it's because the question is just plain false. no one is not buying premium because they can't afford it, they're buying it because they choose not to, and choose to, in their mind, save some cash.

so the answer to the statement has to be no, if you're intelligent.

csharp57

I started making moonshine in my barn during the winter (was bored) so I"ll be using that soon.


(Are there barns in NYC???)