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Old 05-28-2007 | 12:29 PM
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I felt vindicated...

My friends are quick to point out how low-tech I am. The irony is that I work for a large software company and my team actually spends a lot of time working with emerging media and other more cutting-edge/infant technologies...

I have a 4:3 rear-projection CRT television, analog cablevision, a single-ended tube amplifier, vintage horn-loaded speakers, etc. I have a Blackberry that was given to me by my work, and I can barely use it.

My friends are always pointing out how out of the loop I am, citing their widescreen HDTVs, Blu-Ray DVD players, ultra-powerful cell phones, etc.

When I bought my TSX, I deliberately got one that didn't have Navigation. I admire the TSX for its relative simplicity and high degree of integration. It is technology that I can live with, and it isn't always in my face. That decision has also earned me some friendly criticism, as you can imagine.

I was finally vindicated last night on a trip back from Charlotte to Raleigh (approximately 170 miles). This picture was taken after approximately 80 miles or so of driving. My speed varied between 55 and 65, though there was a brief jump to the top of 3rd gear (over 70) for passing someone. Obviously I took the non-freeway route home. The MID is known to be fairly accurate with steady cruising... and at this point it indicates 38.3mpg. Finally, I have something to brag about... for I can claim the highest fuel economy by far! HA! Eat it!!!

Old 05-28-2007 | 01:39 PM
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don't u just love rubbing it in, lol
Old 05-28-2007 | 01:44 PM
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Nice, but did you ever get a chance to play around with the OEM Navi? Its integration is pretty user friendly too!
Old 05-28-2007 | 01:46 PM
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Old 05-28-2007 | 03:39 PM
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Get with the program, learn how to use technology. "In your face" lol That is your excuse. People with your mindset bug the hell out of me. YOU are out of date.
Old 05-28-2007 | 04:41 PM
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I'm totally with ya on staying w/ the tried and true technology. Though I did get the navi!

Nice work on your mpg.
Old 05-28-2007 | 04:49 PM
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Good for you on the braggin rights.

As far as "keeping up with the Joneses'" on technology, hopefully you can point the fact that you have that money you save working for you, rather than depreciating on a technology that'll be obsolete in a month.
Old 05-28-2007 | 05:36 PM
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Old 05-28-2007 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by relik2004
Get with the program, learn how to use technology. "In your face" lol That is your excuse. People with your mindset bug the hell out of me. YOU are out of date.
Old 05-28-2007 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by relik2004
Get with the program, learn how to use technology. "In your face" lol That is your excuse. People with your mindset bug the hell out of me. YOU are out of date.

someones got their panties in a bunch
Old 05-28-2007 | 05:56 PM
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can't you get the same mpg if you have the navi as well?
Old 05-28-2007 | 06:07 PM
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I like being able to get my Range up to 497+ even after I have been driving for a while after filling up... makes for fun conversation with my friend who owns a Ford Excursion
Old 05-28-2007 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fadinglionhart
can't you get the same mpg if you have the navi as well?
lol! Maybe the added weight lowers your MPG... uhmm just to be clear i was kidding about that...


BTW BlackBerries aren't hard to use at all. I have the pearl. Their OS is pretty efficient.
Old 05-28-2007 | 06:15 PM
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could be your just cheap and choose not to invest in high-tech gadgets? then again there's nothing wrong with being cheap. you weren't even driving the speed limit, last time i remember the speed limit was 70mph~ trying to save money on gas?

the $2,000 it costed for the navi was well worth it and i don't regret it. the navi has taken me to places i've never been because i no longer have fear of getting lost. it's priceless, even if i only use it a few times a month.

it also adds some resale value if i decide to sell the car. it's the only thing i can think of that has no downsides when it comes to the TSX.
Old 05-28-2007 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by relik2004
Get with the program, learn how to use technology. "In your face" lol That is your excuse. People with your mindset bug the hell out of me. YOU are out of date.
Yeah pal, I write the software that enables your beloved technology (based on someone else's idea of ergonomics of course), so don't preach to me.

People that miss the point of my post bug the hell out of me. I win.
Old 05-28-2007 | 11:47 PM
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I get your point.

Although I agree with your points on how technology is constantly changing and its not viable unless it's ease of use and integration is high,

I find it that your statement can be contradicting.

You like the non-navi TSX because of this simple and good integration, but you can get better integration from the navi TSX. Everything is off of the touch screen and is also voice activated.

Either way, good job on the 38 mpg, and give us any more tips on how to achieve that.

Old 05-28-2007 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebo1
could be your just cheap and choose not to invest in high-tech gadgets? then again there's nothing wrong with being cheap. you weren't even driving the speed limit, last time i remember the speed limit was 70mph~ trying to save money on gas?
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Speed limit on NC49 is 55 mph. It's a very rural and dark twisting two-lane road through the Uwharrie Mountains. Doing anywhere from 55 to 65 is more than sufficient. Perhaps I would be more comfortable going faster during the day when deer and other road obstacles are more visible.

I didn't want the Navigation system because I don't like the clutter and I have a good sense of direction. The fact that I could save money (as if I really needed to) by opting out is just a bonus.


the $2,000 it costed for the navi was well worth it and i don't regret it. the navi has taken me to places i've never been because i no longer have fear of getting lost. it's priceless, even if i only use it a few times a month.
That's fine... Navigation is a probably a great feature for a lot of people. It is what it is. I've been driving for 15 years and I've never gotten lost. I use maps and I study my routes before I drive somewhere I've never been. I prefer simplicity. Therefore, Navigation isn't for me.


it also adds some resale value if i decide to sell the car. it's the only thing i can think of that has no downsides when it comes to the TSX.
Not trying to nit-pick, but no dealer is going to give you $2000 more on a trade-in.


Anyway, I'm glad some of you understood the light-hearted nature of my post and could relate to my fuel economy "victory" against my friends.
Old 05-29-2007 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by xenonhid
I find it that your statement can be contradicting.

You like the non-navi TSX because of this simple and good integration, but you can get better integration from the navi TSX. Everything is off of the touch screen and is also voice activated.
That's true. The voice activated feature is pretty nifty and it has worked pretty well on the service loaners I've had. If the non-Navigation TSX came equipped with just that piece, I'd still be happy because it is intuitive and completely unobtrusive (except for the 2 additional buttons on the steering wheel).
Old 05-29-2007 | 01:20 AM
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lol dude.. advice.. nowadays you either get with the program or get outtt... just spend a little extra time reading some instructions.. they'll pay off
Old 05-29-2007 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsx6363
lol dude.. advice.. nowadays you either get with the program or get outtt... just spend a little extra time reading some instructions.. they'll pay off
You've missed the point, but that's okay.
Old 05-29-2007 | 07:45 AM
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^^^ yeah he did completely
Old 05-29-2007 | 07:46 AM
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lol dude.. advice.. nowadays you either get with the program or get outtt... just spend a little extra time reading some instructions.. they'll pay off
way to do selective readying and only respond to part of that shit
Old 05-29-2007 | 08:38 AM
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Congrats on the great MPG!

But I fail to see the correlation between your technological ineptness and getting good MPG?

How exactly is this being vindicated? You would have gotten the same MPG on a Navi and the car would have still told you what you were getting?
Old 05-29-2007 | 08:55 AM
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I know where you are coming from with the explosion of technology in society. We are conditioned to purchase the latest and greatest techno gadget available every 3-6 months down the road. The only thing we accomplish is getting the tech companies rich and we are getting more in debt. I work in the technology field (IT specialist) and I prefer the simple life every once in a while.

My buddy at work has a previous gen G35 and 19mpg is his average with 22 mpg his highest on the hwy. I average 29 mpg driving back from Toas, NM, last weekend with my cruise set on 85 mph.
Old 05-29-2007 | 10:06 AM
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Uh... slow and steady wins the race?

I always have a little smile on my face when I bend over at the pump after a 30+mpg tank. At least you know you're getting yours out of it while you are passing enormo-SUVs left and right.
Old 05-29-2007 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
How exactly is this being vindicated? You would have gotten the same MPG on a Navi and the car would have still told you what you were getting?
Oops perhaps I wasn't entirely clear with the connection... While my friends are always bragging about this and that, always out-doing each other with new gadgets (and I'm always last to comply with the latest fad), I finally have something to hold over their heads that they cannot attain with their cars. Ever.
Old 05-29-2007 | 09:16 PM
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NO! You got it completely right with the stereo componenets especially. SET amp and horn loaded speakers will blow any of that new-fangles sh*t out of the water.
Old 05-29-2007 | 11:04 PM
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NICE MPG! I love to see the car is capable of that - further vindication for me not getting another hybrid. Don't sweat the technology either - I also work in high-tech software and to be honest the last thing I want to do in my private life is deal with more high-tech gadgets. Like the 50 hrs a week I'm neck-deep in it isn't enough. The cell phone is the big deal for me - spend all week on the phone and using a computer, why would I want one strapped to my hip all the time? When I'm feeling real rebelious I've been know to......read a book. (gasp). On paper with ink and everything - you know, not from an i-Pod or PDA.
Old 05-30-2007 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by junktionfet
Yeah pal, I write the software that enables your beloved technology (based on someone else's idea of ergonomics of course), so don't preach to me.

People that miss the point of my post bug the hell out of me. I win.
In that case, maybe if they hired people that had a thorough understanding on how to use the technology they were writing the software for, we would ALL have a better navigation system. Microsoft didn't get a bunch of computer illiterate people to work on their software did they? Of course it's not perfect but imagine what it would be like if people who had no clue how to use a computer tried to write software for everyday efficient use? Point! I win.
Old 05-30-2007 | 11:22 PM
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This arguement is foolish. I definately congratulate on the high mpg. However, electronics dont really hurt your mpg. I think what you are saying is the simplicity of not having every electronic or messing with your car. Ive actually heard people on here with minor mods and extreme driving bragging about getting less than 20 mpg
Old 05-31-2007 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by junktionfet
My friends are quick to point out how low-tech I am. The irony is that I work for a large software company and my team actually spends a lot of time working with emerging media and other more cutting-edge/infant technologies...

I have a 4:3 rear-projection CRT television, analog cablevision, a single-ended tube amplifier, vintage horn-loaded speakers, etc. I have a Blackberry that was given to me by my work, and I can barely use it.

My friends are always pointing out how out of the loop I am, citing their widescreen HDTVs, Blu-Ray DVD players, ultra-powerful cell phones, etc.

When I bought my TSX, I deliberately got one that didn't have Navigation. I admire the TSX for its relative simplicity and high degree of integration. It is technology that I can live with, and it isn't always in my face. That decision has also earned me some friendly criticism, as you can imagine.

I was finally vindicated last night on a trip back from Charlotte to Raleigh (approximately 170 miles). This picture was taken after approximately 80 miles or so of driving. My speed varied between 55 and 65, though there was a brief jump to the top of 3rd gear (over 70) for passing someone. Obviously I took the non-freeway route home. The MID is known to be fairly accurate with steady cruising... and at this point it indicates 38.3mpg. Finally, I have something to brag about... for I can claim the highest fuel economy by far! HA! Eat it!!!


just do the navi swap ;-)
lmao.. hahahahhah show off ur bluetooth
Old 05-31-2007 | 03:19 AM
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Obvious brag post.
Old 05-31-2007 | 06:17 AM
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Non-Nav FTW!!!

Originally Posted by junktionfet
Speed limit on NC49 is 55 mph. It's a very rural and dark twisting two-lane road through the Uwharrie Mountains. Doing anywhere from 55 to 65 is more than sufficient. Perhaps I would be more comfortable going faster during the day when deer and other road obstacles are more visible.
Great roads in the Uhwarrie area!!
I hit that area in the fall instead of the Blue Ridge Parkway, way too busy.
I know about deer in that area....just ask my old Grand Am

On a side note;
I drove to LA (Lower Alabama) Memorial Day weekend and got ~35.5 mpg. Going anywhere between 70 and 80 with the A/C on. Did the whole trip, 480 miles, on one tank. Had I not hit a little traffic south of Charlotte and in Atlanta, I would've easily gotten 500 on the tank.
Old 05-31-2007 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EuRTSX
OEM Navi FTW>
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Old 05-31-2007 | 08:29 AM
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