Sorry if this is a repost, but I just read that Honda (Acura) is putting it's first turbocharged engine ever into the new Acura RDX sport ute.

2.3L, 240 hp, 260 lb./ft., SH-AWD (from RL)

If they put this engine in the TSX I will buy one!!!!!

Here is the article at edmunds.com if anyone is interested.....

Slats

 

I think its unfortunate that Honda (Acura) resorts to putting a turbo on a 4 cylinder engine to match the V6 from the Rav 4. Why not put in a V6 instead?

 

I personally think it's a great idea. A V-6 is a good all around engine, but a turbo 4-cyl is much more sporty (FUN) IMO.

 

Yes, if this turbo charged engine is placed in the TSX, I am trading my car in ASAP. The TSX looks sexy and fast, but it isn't. Some people don't respect the car just because of its speed.

 

240 hp and AWD would change that! The TSX would then be comparable to the Subaru Legacy 2.5GT turbo, which is a very fast car.

 

I think it boils down to gas mileage and weight from Honda.

 

Yeah i have heard rumors that the new TSX's (07's or 08's) will have around that same power output. I am keeping my finger crossed!

 

i hope it comes with an optional intercooler, boost gauge, and turbo timer =)

oh yea, a special flange on the charge pipe for adding a blow off valve would be sweet as well...

 

is it new or they don't put the engine liters numbers now in the new Acura cars? just wondered.

 

i honestly think that its really stupid on acura part to put a turbo in the rdx... the rdx is a suv, it needs a torqier v6 engine to "be" and suv(haul, offroad, etc.) and putting it instead in a tsx would be MUCCHHHHH BETTERR(light, nimble fun to drive car)

 

I'D ROLL IT

 

I think it's a great idea since the RDX is going to be a crossover instead of a true SUV. Since it's not being made for off-roading or hauling a turbocharger would be nice for some fun. I'm babying my 06 TSX as much as I can in the hopes they pass it down for the 08-09 TSX as well as the awd. cmoooooooon honda.

 

That's an intercooler sitting on top of the engine in the picture. Here's a pic of the gauges...boost gauge is right under the tach. Not sure about turbo timer??

 

No need for turbo timer if it uses water-cooled bearing housing (most likely it is for reliability).

 

Why is this news? They've said from the beginning that RDX was turbo-charged and SH-AWD...

 

O hell ya...



About the comment of the "why dont they put a v-6 in it". Well in my experince turbo fours are very strong engines and you do get a slight gain in gas milage with it instead of a v-6. But for smoothness and overall ease of driving its hard to beat a v-6. But as others say this looks likes its goign to be a steppign stone for honda to put this motor into its other cars.

 

So where is the temp gauge?

 

Welcome to last year.

 

Well, officially, welcome to early Janiuary 2006.

 

Am I the only one who does NOT want Honda to have a turbo in their sports cars? Having one in a SUV or even high-end (non sport) luxury cars is OK, but I've always thought that Honda's ability to squeeze HP out of a low displacement motor was an indication of sound deisgnwork and quality.

Having an all-motor beast that can scream to 8000 rpm is my equivalent of having a fine crafted watch. But I'm sure it isn't everyone's cup of tea.

 

If you look at the numbers, the torque (260 lbs-ft) is healthier in the RDX than both the MDX and RL (250, 256 respectively). A turbo usually has a bit of torque on tap. I don't agree with your comment at all. On top of that, the 4 cyl will be much lighter, keeping the front light and reducing understeer.

 

There is only one problem with that. Tourque, and the fact that there isn't any. Honda is quickly relizing that they'll need tourque to compete, especially considering they plan to possibly add AWD to each vehicle in the Acura lineup. Instead of putting a V6 into everything they've wisely IMO decided to go the Turbo route instead. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

Fuel economy is still there, but the power is on tap if you need it.

 

i wanna learn more... but like isnt it usually the problem between 1000-2000 rpm for a turbo to wind up(turbo lag)... and with the tsx engine and a rdx chassis w. shawd, doesnt that make for a major lack of low-end torque... and just another case of another honda that needs to wind up to vtec to see ANY power. but if u have a torquy v6 say from a mdx that is detuned, it would produce ALOT more torque on the low end and even give it an ability to haul some. imo hondas I-4 have been known for a high winding small peppy engine, and the v6 a torqy engine that can be compared to v8's(RL, MDX), so why not put a torqy reliable engine in a brand new model and be one less potential problem for the car. im not saying that the turbo engine is bad at all for honda, but i just think its in the wrong car... just think, would u rather have a rdx with a i-4 turbo or a tsx with i-4 turbo...

p.s. i could be wrong, so im up to any opinions(dont wanna start a flame)

 

turbo engine with sh-awd in TSX will be great! i would definitely buy that!
but RDX as an mid-luxury SUV, V6 sounds better. unless RDX's main competitor is subaru forester turbo.

 

Whats that on the left side? Turbo gauge?

 

I agree, but I have come to fully trust that Honda knows what they are doing with engines (although the 5-cyl in the Vigor was strange), especially four bangers. So if Honda is building a turbo engine, my money would be bet that it will be one of the most reliable and efficient engines out there.

Also, like dom said, they need to find a way to get more torque to go with the AWD. I personally can't wait to see a turbocharged engine with i-VTEC...and knowing Honda, they have probably found a way to eliminate turbo lag IMO.

Slats

 

 

i agree... but the thing is, even then, i highly doubt that a new honda turbo can even match the already rally proven subaru turbo..i mean just look at that reliability subaru can do on their turbos with the wrx STI. i just think that the honda v6 is more suited for the rdx and again, no one wants another acura that could potentially have a lack of low end torque and only high end grunt.

p.s. i know honda can work wonders, but not miracles, a turbo engine in a suv????? has anyone done that sucessfully esp. with a brand new engine and turbo... i think thats askin a lil too much

 

i would LOVE to see an SH-AWD tubro TSX, but damn i would be jealous because i tend to keep my cars for a long time and there will be no exception with my 2005 TSX.

 

regardless of the bitching about a 4cyl turbo... the bottom line is sales...

and the RDX has the looks, has the power, has the features, and as long as it starts (no navi) in the low 30's its going to sell like a mother fuker.

given it has the reliability that honda is known for, (not v6 auto-trannys but the company in general) and you've bot a crazzy seller on your hands...

so i lift my glass and say fuck you to the ugly as sin RX330 and X3 and CAN'T WAIT to see one of these bad boys on the road...

 

oh and as far as the TSX is concerned... i would'nt be surprised if we see this powertrain in the Sports4 concept we've all already seen as the next generation TSX... but i dont expect to see it in this model cycle if ever.

 

Enough with the cursing already, 97AcuraCL.

 

The RDX's engine has a variable flow turbo. I think they can set it so that at low RPM, it is in low flow mode and hence there is little lag. I hope vtec.net dynos the RDX so that we can all see what Honda has done to keep at the edge of technology for consumer vehicles.

 

I dunno, I think it's kind of exciting. Putting the turbo I4 in the TSX would address one of the few beefs some have about this car, namely torque. I love my TSX to death, but if Acura releases the next gen TSX with turbo/sh-awd/manual gearbox, I'd jump on it.

I'd also be willing to bet that, if Acura designs and releases a turbo configured motor, it'll be a hell of a package. Reliability won't be an issue, IMO. I have mucho confidence in Honda/Acura's engine building skills.

My only concern with the sh-awd would be that it handles as well, or better, as the current TSX does. I've become addicted to sharp-handling cars. No regression in this department please.

As far as the RDX is concerned, I say lets wait until it comes out before we pass judgement on whether it needs a V6 or not. I think it's going to kick butt and will probably sell like hotcakes.

 

If the TSX gets a turbo and SH-AWD it won't be a $28000 car any more. I don't see it happening.

 

An OEM turbo setup is easily less than $1000. Heck, I can even buy a replacement turbo for my 1.8T for less than this in parts. It's retrofitting a car that was originally designed as a turbo motor that is expensive.

Jetta 1.8T's invoiced beginning at less than $19K when they first came out in 2001, and that's with the entire motor coming from the Audi line.

 

arite arite i thought we were all adults here... it was inconsiderate of me... my badd....

 

From a noobs standpoint, I think this is a bad idea. It will set a precedent and you could see honda putting more turbo's on their cars as opposed to engineering their cars for more power. I'm considering a jump to a Honda product because I like the way their NA 4 cylinders perform and rev. Taking that away would be a mistake. I'm hoping for a 240 or 250hp NA 4cyl on the next TSX.

 

With like 168 lbs/ft of torque?