Car likes to fish-tail on curves in snow?

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Old 01-22-2005, 08:10 PM
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Hey -- I didn't know you were from Albany -- did I?
Oh and yeah... it's nasty out there right now. Love it though
Old 01-22-2005, 08:27 PM
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I have 15 inches of snow & still accumulating & I cant get my shyt to fishtail to save my life.
Old 01-22-2005, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ Majesty
I have 15 inches of snow & still accumulating & I cant get my shyt to fishtail to save my life.
Word, this car is fantastic!!! The VSA does amazing job at keeping this car on the straight and narrow. I've driven all kinds of RWD and FWD in the snow and even without snow tires this vehical is fantastic in slick snow. The VSA is amazing...if you drive with caution and intent this thing almost feels like AWD, just fantastic.

If you turn off the VSA and hand brake that's fun too, but the VSA is really nice.
Old 01-22-2005, 10:34 PM
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If you want to fishtail it's real easy, drive on the snow, turn the steering wheel quickly and then straighten it back.
Old 01-23-2005, 08:54 AM
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We got about 1 1/2 feet of snow. I would need 20 inch tires to try to fishtail out there.
Old 01-23-2005, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TinkyWinky
An interesting concept, friction circle is....However, if you add mass over the rear wheels, would this not effectively increase the radius of the circle? Thus, allowing for greater frictional vectors, both longitudinal and lateral. BTW, it is the SUM of these vectors that must not exceed the radius in order to maintain control of the car.

Regardless, my frictional circle must have been the size of a rats ass the other day, cause my TSX was fishtailing, even with the ABS pulsing like a mofo.
Added weight DOES increase the size of the friction circle, no doubt. The circle isn't really a circle, BTW - it's an ellipse.

The problem is that the extra weight increases the size of the vectors MORE.

And my TSX will oversteer too, but not in steady state - it does it when the VSA jumps in, or when you lift off suddenly in a corner.

The TSX (with good snows) is still the best winter package I've ever had.
Old 01-23-2005, 02:41 PM
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i was doing figure 8s in a parking lot last night

this car is great, VSA lit up like a xmas tree the whole time i drove home from LI
Old 01-23-2005, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
If you want to fishtail it's real easy, drive on the snow, turn the steering wheel quickly and then straighten it back.
Guys,

Please be careful when deliberately fishtailing. A high school friend of mine had a car full of kids that he was trying to impress and fishtailed his camry during a rainstorm. He sideswiped a telephone pole and ended up totaling his car. Nobody got hurt thankfully. Actually it was pretty freaking hysterical now that I think about it. nevermind.
Old 01-23-2005, 04:56 PM
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The only time I felt my rear was going to slide was when I had my car lowered and I did not get my camber adjusted yet.
Old 01-24-2005, 03:37 PM
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I fishtailed slightly today making a turn on a snowy side road that hadn't been plowed. I wasn't going very fast though fortunately, so it only slid a little bit, but it was noticeable.
Old 02-01-2005, 01:35 AM
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I love driving my car in the snow with VSA. Deep snow in the alley behind my house? No problem -- just put it in gear and drive forward. The VSA lights up like a sumbitch, and I drive straight out.
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