Car got broken into without force entry?!
I highly doubt any thief would sit in the car with the alarm going nuts, even if there's no glass on the floor. It draws too much attention, and people will see the thief digging through the compartments. I'm not saying its not possible, it is, but its not likely a thief would chance it and stay.
Also where are you from? A lot of posts I found were mostly from SF Bay Area. Luckily I'm back at LA. Haven't heard of things happening here that are no force.
Just read that thread about break in with interest on Town Hall forums.
It seems someone is using a master key, however the alarm should go off since there is no immobilizer chip on the master key, meaning that they can gain entry to the vehicle but cannot start it to drive it off.
My old Dodge Nitro ( POS Chrysler ), if you locked the car with remote then tried to use the key to open the door the alarm would go off. Doesnt appear to be the case with our Acuras?
It seems someone is using a master key, however the alarm should go off since there is no immobilizer chip on the master key, meaning that they can gain entry to the vehicle but cannot start it to drive it off.
My old Dodge Nitro ( POS Chrysler ), if you locked the car with remote then tried to use the key to open the door the alarm would go off. Doesnt appear to be the case with our Acuras?
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Just read that thread about break in with interest on Town Hall forums.
It seems someone is using a master key, however the alarm should go off since there is no immobilizer chip on the master key, meaning that they can gain entry to the vehicle but cannot start it to drive it off.
My old Dodge Nitro ( POS Chrysler ), if you locked the car with remote then tried to use the key to open the door the alarm would go off. Doesnt appear to be the case with our Acuras?
It seems someone is using a master key, however the alarm should go off since there is no immobilizer chip on the master key, meaning that they can gain entry to the vehicle but cannot start it to drive it off.
My old Dodge Nitro ( POS Chrysler ), if you locked the car with remote then tried to use the key to open the door the alarm would go off. Doesnt appear to be the case with our Acuras?
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I doubt majority of break ins are because people up in the Bay Area are poor. People do it not for wealth sometimes, but rather for the thrill of it.
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I doubt majority of break ins are because people up in the Bay Area are poor. People do it not for wealth sometimes, but rather for the thrill of it.
another way they can get in is by pumping an airbag between the door frame and door to unlock the car. road side service use this technique. the only damage you will see using this technique is that your door might distort slightly therefore your door will not sit flush and protrude a little.
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My car got broken into with no indications of any forced entry back in April on Gough st, SF... Lost ~1500$ worth of shit. Full system (minus speakers in doors), two pairs of designer glasses, ipod, shoes, etc.. just took the loss and moved on since insurance doesn't cover.
I also listen for the beep before I walk away from the car. The only logical reasoning for me anyway, is that I could ahve possible clicked the unlock button when putting the keys back in my pockets... but even then, I thought the car automatically locks after a few minutes if you don't open it after unlocking?
I also listen for the beep before I walk away from the car. The only logical reasoning for me anyway, is that I could ahve possible clicked the unlock button when putting the keys back in my pockets... but even then, I thought the car automatically locks after a few minutes if you don't open it after unlocking?
The one with no chip was the lock for my fuel filler on my old dodge nitro. I could open the car doors but if the alarm was activated then the siren would go off if memory serves me correctly.
Thats interesting. Since the key that I used to use to unlock the door with activated the alarm system. The only difference between the keys was that one had a chip inside of it and the other one didnt.
The one with no chip was the lock for my fuel filler on my old dodge nitro. I could open the car doors but if the alarm was activated then the siren would go off if memory serves me correctly.
The one with no chip was the lock for my fuel filler on my old dodge nitro. I could open the car doors but if the alarm was activated then the siren would go off if memory serves me correctly.
I read that edmunds townhall thread years ago before i drove out to SF to visit friends. From the sounds of it, I think there is a crooked acura employee out in the area with a master key or a copy of it. The stock alarm is fairly simple in that all is needed to disable it is a negetive ground pulse on the key lock cylinder meaning turning the key in the cylinder grounds it to turn it on/off. Imobilizer has nothing to do with the security system. So someone running around with an unchipped master key can open and disable the alarm but cant drive off with the car. I know this because i installed a clifford intelligaurd on my 07 and it controls the stock alarm by pulsing neg to the lock/unlock side of the key cylinder. Double pulsing on it opens/closes the windows.
Even pressing the unlock button on the drivers door will even disable the alarm because the alarm multiplex is located in the window switch assembly.
Even pressing the unlock button on the drivers door will even disable the alarm because the alarm multiplex is located in the window switch assembly.
another way they can get in is by pumping an airbag between the door frame and door to unlock the car. road side service use this technique. the only damage you will see using this technique is that your door might distort slightly therefore your door will not sit flush and protrude a little.
My car got broken into with no indications of any forced entry back in April on Gough st, SF... Lost ~1500$ worth of shit. Full system (minus speakers in doors), two pairs of designer glasses, ipod, shoes, etc.. just took the loss and moved on since insurance doesn't cover.
I also listen for the beep before I walk away from the car. The only logical reasoning for me anyway, is that I could ahve possible clicked the unlock button when putting the keys back in my pockets... but even then, I thought the car automatically locks after a few minutes if you don't open it after unlocking?
I also listen for the beep before I walk away from the car. The only logical reasoning for me anyway, is that I could ahve possible clicked the unlock button when putting the keys back in my pockets... but even then, I thought the car automatically locks after a few minutes if you don't open it after unlocking?
On a side note: I love the way you set up your car (in terms of mods). I seen your car before and after your parting out.
I read that edmunds townhall thread years ago before i drove out to SF to visit friends. From the sounds of it, I think there is a crooked acura employee out in the area with a master key or a copy of it. The stock alarm is fairly simple in that all is needed to disable it is a negetive ground pulse on the key lock cylinder meaning turning the key in the cylinder grounds it to turn it on/off. Imobilizer has nothing to do with the security system. So someone running around with an unchipped master key can open and disable the alarm but cant drive off with the car. I know this because i installed a clifford intelligaurd on my 07 and it controls the stock alarm by pulsing neg to the lock/unlock side of the key cylinder. Double pulsing on it opens/closes the windows.
Even pressing the unlock button on the drivers door will even disable the alarm because the alarm multiplex is located in the window switch assembly.
Even pressing the unlock button on the drivers door will even disable the alarm because the alarm multiplex is located in the window switch assembly.
We do not have enough people complaining for Acura to do stuff. Only advice I found to prevent this was don't leave stuff in your car, and upgrade the security. I still find the aftermarket ones to be quite useless if the thieves are professionals. Some thieves have random generating alarm codes thing? I don't know what its called. It might just randomly get your aftermarket (unlock/lock) signal.
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another way they can get in is by pumping an airbag between the door frame and door to unlock the car. road side service use this technique. the only damage you will see using this technique is that your door might distort slightly therefore your door will not sit flush and protrude a little.
Interesting, I never heard of this technique before. It doesn't seem like my door frame is distorted or anything. This technique will trigger the alarm I believe, because you are not unlocking it with the key. I personally think the thieves wouldn't have enough time to do this in a public area with people walking around. Thanks for the heads up on this info though.
it's effecting your memory. This was on the first page.I have never done this maliciously nor have I done it in the act of committing a crime. I have only done this to help those who are locked out of their car, but I could get your TSX open without any signs of forced entry and it wouldn't involve any computer science.
Have you ever heard of a sphygmomanometer? Yes, it's a real word. Basically, it's the device (the inflatable cuff that squeezes your arm) your Dr. uses to check your blood pressure. This is essentially what the modern slimjim is designed after. You carefully wedge the top rear corner of the door and slide the un-inflated airbag in then pump it up to create an opening between the door and the body of the car. You then reach in with a hook or rod to either push the unlock button or flip the lock switch itself.
Done properly, there will be no signs of forced entry. Occams Razor, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Have you ever heard of a sphygmomanometer? Yes, it's a real word. Basically, it's the device (the inflatable cuff that squeezes your arm) your Dr. uses to check your blood pressure. This is essentially what the modern slimjim is designed after. You carefully wedge the top rear corner of the door and slide the un-inflated airbag in then pump it up to create an opening between the door and the body of the car. You then reach in with a hook or rod to either push the unlock button or flip the lock switch itself.
Done properly, there will be no signs of forced entry. Occams Razor, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
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