elitefris

I am getting a deal of $25500 out the door on a demo 07 TSX MT car with 99 miles on it.

Can i buy it. I am skeptical about buying it. Lett me know. Other dealers in this area have offered as low as $25900 Out the door including tax, tag and all other BS (Destination and processing fees).

CGTSX07

with nav or without nav? $25,500 definitely seems low OTD, but the real question is, do you really want a demo car?

DelawareTSX

That is pretty low mileage so I wouldn't be tooo worried. However, when waiting for my tsx to get in, I was given a demo car and drove the crap out of it.

mrgold35

That is very low mileage and OTD price for a brand new demo car.

Is there a chance the car might have had some damage repaired by the dealership? It is a demo car, maybe it was a loaner and someone had a small unreported accident with it.

elitefris

Its is without Navigation. I havent looked at the car. I am going to see the car this evening.

jwood_06TSX

The thing that i have seen with demo cars is that a TON of people have sat in it, and leaned on it and stuff like that. I'm willing to bet that the engine is perfectly fine and will have no problems BUT, i would make sure that they give it a FULL exterior detail before giving it to you. You may not be able to see them, but there are MILLIONS of scratches all over it for sure just from stupid people not being careful or just not caring. Mechnically its fine, but check out the paint, ESPECIALLY around the door handles and such. ALSO, check the interior, but i'm sure its fine!




EDIT: Just saw your post, your going to look tonight then pay close attention to what i mentioned. Scratches around the whole car, door handles, and the interior! But mechanically i'm sure its perfect!



EDIT: I may be miss interperting demo. I was thinking demo was like the showroom car.....by demo do you mean, test drive demo? Then, still pay attention to things that i mentioned but look at the engine and listen to it too.......test drive demo would make me a little more uneasy...

CGTSX2004

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Demo cars...

I hope it wasn't one that someone like me drove during a demo because I am not at all gentle on demo cars...

elitefris

Another 07 TSX MT w/o Navi is 10 miles and is offered at $25900.

So now its

"Am I saving $400 for a car thats driven 99 miles" or "loosing something".

$400 is no a big deal. But your suggestions will certainly have its influence on me buying a TSX demo.

Edit: By demo they mean it was test driven.

So a Manual transmission car will have little to no problem compared to Auto transmission?

Thanks,
elitefris

CGTSX07

So you can get a new TSX for $400 more? If so, I wouldn't even consider the demo. They are usually driven hard.

EuRTSX

I'd pay 400 more for the 10 mile 07 M/T.

CGTSX2004

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Mokos23

do you get a 5 yr/100,000 miles warranty if you buy a demo?

elitefris

No, only the normal factory warranties apply.

jwood_06TSX

If they are offering that other brand NEW one to you for $400 more, get it and forget the demo.....done deal!!

DemonPoofball

No kidding!! That was my concern getting an '07 this late, but that was before I realized that they have shiney brand new ones available still. Mine had 18 miles on it, most of which was our last test drive when our sales guy let us take it out to test everything out (I drove more "normal" then ). When I took the original test drive, my intent was to find out what it would do!

Other than little scratches (which they should be looking for anyway, mine even had a couple tiny things they buffed out before we picked it up), the only issue I would think is that the break-in period recommendations would have been completely ignored thus far (especially in a manual).

taz98spin

I just got a new 07 (55 miles on it ) TSX as a loner car just now during lunch.

I guess Acura is really desperate to get rid of all the 07 vehicles.

kaakk

Dealership near me just emailed me Loaner car info.. $24,400 for TSX, $29,999 for TL.
But again remember, if i had a loaner or demo car.... I'd drive it hard as hell.

elitefris

I think now i know what to buy.

-elitefris

elitefris

I didnot buy that demo car. I just didnt feel that car was new.

taz98spin

Good choice!

Don Hoagie

if it has 99 miles it was not a "demo". Perhaps you're confusing it for a "floor model"... a demo is a vehicle assigned to demonstrator service; that is, an employee (or employees) are given the vehicle to drive for a certain number of miles for the purpose of showcasing the car and advertising the dealership. If it was a demo with 99 miles, it means the guy just got into the car yesterday... very strange situation, and really nothing of any importance, since 99 miles of demo service doesn't equate to any noticeable deterioration in the car's value. Most dealers wouldn't think of selling a demo that was just signed off for service yesterday... unless that is literally the only car like it on the lot.

If it was a floor model, it wouldn't have gotten its mileage by sitting on the showroom floor, right? So the question to ask is where did it get its mileage... most likely, it was a car swapped in from another dealership. 99 miles is an awkward number to be anything else... it's too many for a car that has just been test driven frequently (though it's possible), and too few to be a service loaner or manager demo.


P.S. don't ever buy a service loaner. It has been through hell.

black label

Rarely does Acura designate a specific car as a demo. The last 2 would have been the 07 RDX and MDX. Every dealer got one of these that clearly stated on the window sticker "demo program do not sell". The dealer must keep this car in service for 6 months (or face penalties from corporate), then it can be sold.

Being a MT, it's not strange that it only has 99 miles on it. Not many people know how to drive a stick any more, therefore it is less likely that it had been driven many times. That said, in my experience, most manual transmission drivers are a little more agressive in the way they drive, so I would say it wasn't an easy 99 miles.

In regards to warranty, your warranty starts from the "in service date" and from the mileage stated on the Federal Odometer Disclosure statement. If you buy an Acura with 99 miles on it, your warranty runs to 50099 miles.

CiViCKiDD

what's the tax rate in your area? $25-$26k otd is ridiculously cheap, here in the tri-state area anyway..

Don Hoagie

Yes, that too is a confusing statement by the OP... Acura dealers in your area are going ~3,000 under invoice on new vehicles? This whole scenario seems like it was either miscommunicated or misunderstood by the parties involved.

elitefris

The Quote is from northern VA - $25900 and one in Maryland, MD $25500.


Here is the complete story:

VA dealership were stubborn till the last minute i walked out from dealership. The original quote was for $26800 OTD and $26400 OTD (Tax @3.17 in VA, 3%in MD, tag - $79 for 2 years) from VA and MD dealership respectively which included wing spoiler, all season floor mats, trunk tray and wheels locks worth $900 including installation.

(For simplicity i included only the base price in our discussion before.)

When i went to Dealership where they had the Demo car with 99 miles they quoted $26500 without the accessories and did not include $1000 incentive which would again bring it to $26400 with accessories and incentive.

Remember the 07 TSX has both the incentive and special APR financing to get rid of it.

I guess they were just trying push the demo car to me without accessories for $26400 OTD.

About the car: After spending close to $30000 i want to smell the new car for at least 2-3 months. Isn't it fair? The demo car did not have any smell what so ever and it was the only MT car in the lot for quite sometime.

I started the discussion for a TSX about 25 days back and dragged it till the last day and till 7 pm (31st July) for them to come down to what i want. and then went to the dealership on the first. I don't think last business day makes much of a difference for a dealership but it does for the salesperson.

I would say with a new model on its way in 08 you should negotiate for
$27.3k OTD on a non navi and $29.2 w/ Navi or even less for a 08 TSX.

Anybody interested buying the car in Northern Virginia or Maryland let me know i will give you the details of the dealership.

Thanks all for your suggestions.
Elitefris


PS:

1. I am waiting for 08 TSX non-navi
2. My friend paid $31000 OTD for a 08 TSX (I guess it is with navi)

3. This guy has excellent tips to buy a new car http://www.carbuyingtips.com/car1.htm
I would say quote $500 to $1000 less from the excel estimate that it gives. you might endup somewhere in between.

elitefris

DONT CONFUSE MSRP AND INVOICE. DEALERS GET THE CAR THOUSANDS BELOW INVOICE SO NEGOTIATE

JDMPLUS

If I have the cash laying out I would buy one with the navi and non demo.

Navi is definitely a plus.

Demo with 99 miles honestly it wont really affect anyone if you can tell them to give you an free oil change before you deliver the car you would be set.

Don Hoagie

I've been working in the auto dealer industry for 5 years... I'm aware of the difference.

Dealers don't own a car for thousands below invoice... they own it for invoice minus holdback, which in the TSX's case should be about $800. Profit margin on a $27,600 TSX is about $2,000-$2,500, correct? So the distance from MSRP to what the dealer owns it for is about $3,000, which means that on any given day, a zero profit deal for a dealer on a car like that is about $24,600.

If you then add in taxes, fees, etc., (at least in the area I and other posters live in, which is why it's important on these threads to mention the state you're buying in right off the bat) that number ends up at about $27,000, which of course is the OTD number, and about $2,500 more than what you originally said you were getting OTD. So yes, I understand the difference.


1. For some reason, your original statement was that you were getting the car for $25,500 OTD, which you've now said is actually $26,400 if I'm reading this right. Obviously this number makes more sense to everyone.

2. We didn't know you live in VA/MD area, where the tax rate is preposterously low... again, if you had said that at the beginning, the number would have made more sense to everyone.

3. You didn't originally state that it included the $1,000 rebate... once again, if you had made that apparent, the number would have made more sense.


I don't mean to rag on you, it's just that this is the kind of B.S. I deal with every day working at a car dealership... people come in with preposterous figures, and only after hours of drilling into the customer do we find that 50% of their statement is utterly false (i.e. saying the figure is $25,500 when it's $26,500), and the other 50% has qualifiers behind it (i.e. saying it includes the $1,000 rebate and the taxes are from another state).


P.S.: How is it that you're comparing OTD numbers with different state tax rates? You pay taxes on the state where you're registering the car, regardless of what dealer sells it to you... or is this not the case in VA/MD?

nj2pa2nc

the 06 mr/eb 6spd/w nav I bought had 138 miles on it when I bought it 11/06. The dealer I bought it from had to get it from another dealer. it did not bother me that it had that mileage as I wanted that car. It now has 21,000+ miles. Love the car-no regrets

super4

good price, if your buying and planning to keep it for long time, id say pay the extra 400 and get a new one, if you know youll only keep it few yrs then should be ok. 99miles is real low, but not good if it was beat on before break in period.