To bra or not to bra
Originally Posted by t_in_maine
I haven't heard anything substantial, but have just heard that 3M is far superior to Autobahnd. MY installer said he has used several different types of films, but keeps going back to the 3M. I went in Natick, MA, and Jeff @ WheelDynamix was busy all the time, while the Autobahnd guy 200 ft. down the street didn't appear to be busy either of the two times I went.
I had much the same experience with my installer. I asked what he uses on his vehicles, since he had the 3M and some other brand, and without hesitation, it was the 3M. That's what I went in there wanting anyways, but I thought it was worth asking. Same with the tint...he had like 5 brands, including the Madico Ceramic stuff, and he once again said 3M on his cars - it's thinner, tougher, blocks more light, looks better and has a lifetime warranty.
I got my TSX back with the clearbra installed...I'm chomping at the bit waiting to wash and wax it. I have to wait at least 6 more days so the clearbra is fully set before doing it though. He said I can rinse the car off in the meantime...and of course use the cali duster (man I love that thing).
Originally Posted by Ronin317
I had much the same experience with my installer. I asked what he uses on his vehicles, since he had the 3M and some other brand, and without hesitation, it was the 3M. That's what I went in there wanting anyways, but I thought it was worth asking. Same with the tint...he had like 5 brands, including the Madico Ceramic stuff, and he once again said 3M on his cars - it's thinner, tougher, blocks more light, looks better and has a lifetime warranty.
I got my TSX back with the clearbra installed...I'm chomping at the bit waiting to wash and wax it. I have to wait at least 6 more days so the clearbra is fully set before doing it though. He said I can rinse the car off in the meantime...and of course use the cali duster (man I love that thing).
I got my TSX back with the clearbra installed...I'm chomping at the bit waiting to wash and wax it. I have to wait at least 6 more days so the clearbra is fully set before doing it though. He said I can rinse the car off in the meantime...and of course use the cali duster (man I love that thing).
T_in_Maine & Ronin317
did either of your installers say specifically whether they had used the autobahn though?? I know you are saying they used others but im curious if they have had hands on with both the 3m and the autobahn. Thanks for all the feedback thus far.
did either of your installers say specifically whether they had used the autobahn though?? I know you are saying they used others but im curious if they have had hands on with both the 3m and the autobahn. Thanks for all the feedback thus far.
Originally Posted by rza49311
T_in_Maine & Ronin317
did either of your installers say specifically whether they had used the autobahn though?? I know you are saying they used others but im curious if they have had hands on with both the 3m and the autobahn. Thanks for all the feedback thus far.
did either of your installers say specifically whether they had used the autobahn though?? I know you are saying they used others but im curious if they have had hands on with both the 3m and the autobahn. Thanks for all the feedback thus far.
Two other things, and I'll end this increasingly long post - my company is working on a device that has an LCD...we went with the LCD that had the 3M coating on it for scratch protection. Why? because the brand x crap from china that looks the same just isn't. (I'll reveal the device later when we're ready for launch...let's just say it's an iPod accessory and it frees you from being tethered to a PC for content).
The other is this - I always go with a place and installer I trust. I talk to the guy, BS about some unrelated stuff, get a feel for it. I did the same when I designed the kitchen in my home and was looking for someone to do the construction. I ended up going with the genuine guy, looked at what he recommended, asked what products and brands he uses personally (cause he installs whatever the customer asks for...so he's used them all from cabinets to fridges...), and went with what he uses. I have not had a single problem in 3 years. Not one. My neighbor, who was doing stuff at roughly the same time with the same guy, ignored his recommendations on the appliances...and has had nothing but problems.
So I leave you with this - a bunch of people have chimed in now and said the 3M is great, yet no one has had any experience with the autobahn - telling, isn't it? even if it's $50 more or whatnot...it's worth it.
Originally Posted by rza49311
yeah, i hear ya ronin. I wonder why the dealerships don't use the 3m though. they prob got some agreement with the other company for cheaper or something. 

$20 front end bra! no kidding...
All, check this out:
Just found it and its possibly a great and inexpensive alternative to an expensive clear bra and a paint damaging leather bra.
http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=20264
Just found it and its possibly a great and inexpensive alternative to an expensive clear bra and a paint damaging leather bra.
http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=20264
Originally Posted by Ronin317
I dunno...I swear I saw a 3M sign at the dealer where I purchased my TSX. I'm quite sure it's regional...
Originally Posted by rza49311
Yeah must be a regional thing, i contacted another dealer in NC and he said they don't do any clear bra's because of the liability, they only back the OEM bra. He didn't have anyone to recommend either.
Oh yeah, on another note, i meant to also mention that same dealer from NC I spoke with recommended THIS website by name for information on clear bra's.
I have been thinking about it this morning and even though the 3m seems to be getting praise over the other, i think i still might go with the dealer autobahn roadblock. I mean, if its guaranteed for life(no questions asked if it rips, chips or fades) then i don't see how its a bad deal. Plus I know the dealership isn't going anywhere and I can always get a hold of them. Any other thoughts?
I have been thinking about it this morning and even though the 3m seems to be getting praise over the other, i think i still might go with the dealer autobahn roadblock. I mean, if its guaranteed for life(no questions asked if it rips, chips or fades) then i don't see how its a bad deal. Plus I know the dealership isn't going anywhere and I can always get a hold of them. Any other thoughts?
The lifetime warranty might be thru the manufactuer, not the local dealer (so they'd need to remain in business). The local shop probably only deals with warranty repairs as long as they are still affiliated with the manufactuer.
You'd need to take both into account when evaluating the 'lifetime warranty'.
Jeff
You'd need to take both into account when evaluating the 'lifetime warranty'.
Jeff
Originally Posted by rza49311
Oh yeah, on another note, i meant to also mention that same dealer from NC I spoke with recommended THIS website by name for information on clear bra's.
I have been thinking about it this morning and even though the 3m seems to be getting praise over the other, i think i still might go with the dealer autobahn roadblock. I mean, if its guaranteed for life(no questions asked if it rips, chips or fades) then i don't see how its a bad deal. Plus I know the dealership isn't going anywhere and I can always get a hold of them. Any other thoughts?
I have been thinking about it this morning and even though the 3m seems to be getting praise over the other, i think i still might go with the dealer autobahn roadblock. I mean, if its guaranteed for life(no questions asked if it rips, chips or fades) then i don't see how its a bad deal. Plus I know the dealership isn't going anywhere and I can always get a hold of them. Any other thoughts?
jwhite: good point..i will look into that...
iv'e had my car now for 2 weeks and i am still contimplating on if i should get the clearbra..the bumper on my 04' was riddled with rock chips and dried up bugs..i swore that i would get the clearbra on my next car based on that...i'm almost positive that i will get it (possibly as soon as tomorrow)..i guess its just the high price thats giving me second thoughts...
BTW..i know and have the number for the installer that the dealership uses...do you guys think that i can save a few dollars by going straight to the installer and skip the dealership?
Well, I decided against the 3m and I'm going with the dealer recommended Autobahn Roadblocker. The company who does these bra's has been in business for over 10 years or so I'm told. Also, I spoke with my insurance guy (state farm) and the bra IS covered if I get in an accident.
The combo of a lifetime warranty and it being insured sealed the deal for me.
Originally Posted by rza49311
Well, I decided against the 3m and I'm going with the dealer recommended Autobahn Roadblocker. The company who does these bra's has been in business for over 10 years or so I'm told. Also, I spoke with my insurance guy (state farm) and the bra IS covered if I get in an accident.
The combo of a lifetime warranty and it being insured sealed the deal for me.
Originally Posted by ninjamyst
Is the 3M stuff not covered by insurance?
But it all depends on the carrier.
I'm sure Ronin is right. Sorry, I didn't mean for my post to be misleading in a way that the 3m is not covered. Actually I do not know if it would be covered or not. I just called my insurance guy, asked him about the bra, explained to him its purpose and that it would be dealer installed. He said he didn't know right off hand and I had to wait til the next day. He called me back the next morning and said it was covered.
I am scheduled to have the bra put on tomorrow @ 4 so hopefully i can have some pics up sometime sunday.
I am scheduled to have the bra put on tomorrow @ 4 so hopefully i can have some pics up sometime sunday.
ok so i was just doing research and made a few phone calls about the 3m product...unfortunately for me...nobody does it here locally anymore...i cant find any other place that does...so i guess i'd have to go with the dealership...my local dealership uses the roadguard with the lifetime warranty...dammit..i know i need and want this but its just the high price thats keeping me from jumping on it right now..
Originally Posted by rza49311
I'm sure Ronin is right. Sorry, I didn't mean for my post to be misleading in a way that the 3m is not covered. Actually I do not know if it would be covered or not. I just called my insurance guy, asked him about the bra, explained to him its purpose and that it would be dealer installed. He said he didn't know right off hand and I had to wait til the next day. He called me back the next morning and said it was covered.
I am scheduled to have the bra put on tomorrow @ 4 so hopefully i can have some pics up sometime sunday.
I am scheduled to have the bra put on tomorrow @ 4 so hopefully i can have some pics up sometime sunday.
Originally Posted by rza49311
Alabaster Silver Metallic.
(pretty much the best color ever made - napoleon)
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