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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Automatic Car Starter

hey Guys, question about the automatic car starter...

1. Is it bad for the TSX?

2. What is the best auto car starter brand out there?

3. For those of you in cold weather, how long do you warm up your car for? Is it till the engine temperature guage starts moving up? (cuz that could be 5 minutes)

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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This has been covered a ton, so you might want to search.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12730
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4964
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18241

I personally have a 6MT and live where its warm.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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The car gets to sit and warm up as long as it takes me to scrape/uncover it. Nothing to scrape/uncover? Then it sits until I'm buckled up and ready to go.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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i drop the idea after knowing i need to insert a key in the car for remote car starter to work. i install a block heater instead.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by uworich
hey Guys, question about the automatic car starter...

1. Is it bad for the TSX?

2. What is the best auto car starter brand out there?

3. For those of you in cold weather, how long do you warm up your car for? Is it till the engine temperature guage starts moving up? (cuz that could be 5 minutes)

Thanks!
No suggestions uworich, but dude, what's up with this super-cold weather?
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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luckly i don't drive to work, but walking in -??C on Monday 5:30am is not something i like to do often ---- freeeeeezzzing...
i almost think i shall get ski wear out.

for the TSX, i have a switch indoor that controls outdoor outlets, with engine block heater, i also put household heater in TSX wired to the outlet, so i just flip the switch about 1-2 hr before i start the car. it cut down the warm up time a lot and cost of electricity is probably around 20cent.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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what does engine block do? how does it work to install it? thanks!
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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it look like a plug that you install it by replace coolant drain plug on engine. the thing cost about 130cdn at dealer and they charge 3 hr of labour on it so i install it myself. you need some tools to get it done. you can find the install instruction by search google.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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it look like a plug that you install it by replace coolant drain plug on engine. the thing cost about 130cdn at dealer and they charge 3 hr of labour on it so i install it myself. you need some tools to get it done. you can find the install instruction by search google.
so does it mean after you install it, then the car can warm up faster after you start?? is it bad for the car since you got to replace coolant drain plug with this thing.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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It's an old post, but perhaps a timely answer. (I will have both, a block heater and a remote starter)

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/communities-g...ers.cfm?attr=8

Starting a vehicle on a bitter winter day can be a chilling experience. It can also be hard on your pocketbook and the environment.

You'll use more fuel and create more pollution in the first minutes after a "cold start" than when the engine reaches normal operating temperatures. When an engine starts up, it pumps oil throughout the engine block to lubricate moving parts. In a cold engine, the oil is thick and resists flow, so the engine has to work harder to overcome internal friction.

Fuel combustion is also less efficient in a cold engine, and the air-fuel mixture is richer – in other words, there is more fuel in the mixture and less air. (The mixture of fuel vapour and air must be in proper proportion for efficient combustion.) The combined effect is a sharp increase in pollutants. On top of everything else, the catalytic converter doesn't work when it is cold. Therefore, all of the engine's emissions pass through the exhaust untreated.

You can help reduce the impact of cold starts – and avoid idling your car needlessly to warm the engine – by installing a block heater. This inexpensive device warms the coolant, which in turn warms the engine block and lubricants. The engine will start more easily and reach its peak operating temperature faster. What's more, it won't have to work as hard to pump oil through the block.

At –20°C, block heaters can improve overall fuel economy by as much as 10 percent. For a single short trip on a cold day, your fuel savings could be in the order of 20 percent.

Reduced fuel consumption will do more than save you money. It will also minimize greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions that contribute to climate change. Carbon dioxide (CO2), the most common GHG, is an unavoidable by-product of burning gasoline. Every time you turn on your vehicle's engine, you generate CO2 – and the more fuel you use, the greater your GHG emissions.

A block heater runs on electricity. To save money, invest in an automatic timer that switches the block heater on two hours before you plan to drive the vehicle (instead of leaving it plugged in all night). This is all the time needed to warm the coolant and, in turn, the engine.



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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by excited
It's an old post, but perhaps a timely answer. (I will have both, a block heater and a remote starter)

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/communities-g...ers.cfm?attr=8

Starting a vehicle on a bitter winter day can be a chilling experience. It can also be hard on your pocketbook and the environment.

You'll use more fuel and create more pollution in the first minutes after a "cold start" than when the engine reaches normal operating temperatures. When an engine starts up, it pumps oil throughout the engine block to lubricate moving parts. In a cold engine, the oil is thick and resists flow, so the engine has to work harder to overcome internal friction.

Fuel combustion is also less efficient in a cold engine, and the air-fuel mixture is richer – in other words, there is more fuel in the mixture and less air. (The mixture of fuel vapour and air must be in proper proportion for efficient combustion.) The combined effect is a sharp increase in pollutants. On top of everything else, the catalytic converter doesn't work when it is cold. Therefore, all of the engine's emissions pass through the exhaust untreated.

You can help reduce the impact of cold starts – and avoid idling your car needlessly to warm the engine – by installing a block heater. This inexpensive device warms the coolant, which in turn warms the engine block and lubricants. The engine will start more easily and reach its peak operating temperature faster. What's more, it won't have to work as hard to pump oil through the block.

At –20°C, block heaters can improve overall fuel economy by as much as 10 percent. For a single short trip on a cold day, your fuel savings could be in the order of 20 percent.

Reduced fuel consumption will do more than save you money. It will also minimize greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions that contribute to climate change. Carbon dioxide (CO2), the most common GHG, is an unavoidable by-product of burning gasoline. Every time you turn on your vehicle's engine, you generate CO2 – and the more fuel you use, the greater your GHG emissions.

A block heater runs on electricity. To save money, invest in an automatic timer that switches the block heater on two hours before you plan to drive the vehicle (instead of leaving it plugged in all night). This is all the time needed to warm the coolant and, in turn, the engine.



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Good comments and good advice for those of us in the Northern climate !
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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so has anyone put a remote start on the 6mt?
issues?
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by grasseater
so has anyone put a remote start on the 6mt?
issues?

I do. Just don't remote start with car in gear. And make sure you turn off the remote start via toggle switch when gettting serviced or in valet.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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I have car starter for my automatic. works amazing.

You do not need a key in the car for the remote to start.

block heater, if the plug has snow in it and you go plug it in, can you get shocked?
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by loxllxol
I do. Just don't remote start with car in gear. And make sure you turn off the remote start via toggle switch when gettting serviced or in valet.
yeah but doesn't that defeat the purpose of the security feature in the car? if you install a remote start you have to bypass the security system..
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by narci
I have car starter for my automatic. works amazing.

You do not need a key in the car for the remote to start.

block heater, if the plug has snow in it and you go plug it in, can you get shocked?
Although it is always better to blow away any snow, it would be pretty tough to get shocked from snow in the plug. I won't worry about it.



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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebo
yeah but doesn't that defeat the purpose of the security feature in the car? if you install a remote start you have to bypass the security system..

No, when you bypass the remote start, you only bypass just the remote start function. The alarm is still fully functional. All good quality remote starts come with the toggle switch for just an occassion.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebo
yeah but doesn't that defeat the purpose of the security feature in the car? if you install a remote start you have to bypass the security system..
not true. My starter retains all factory security and remote functions on the new remote.

The key is to get a GOOD INSTALLER no matter how expensive the alarm/remote starter is.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by narci
not true. My starter retains all factory security and remote functions on the new remote.

The key is to get a GOOD INSTALLER no matter how expensive the alarm/remote starter is.
there is a chip on the key that sends a signal to the car so when you put it in the ignition it'll start.. if you install a remote starter, for the car to start you'd have to bypass that chip sensor, ... or so i thought..

please explain how will the remote start work if they didn't bypass this chip.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sebo
there is a chip on the key that sends a signal to the car so when you put it in the ignition it'll start.. if you install a remote starter, for the car to start you'd have to bypass that chip sensor, ... or so i thought..

please explain how will the remote start work if they didn't bypass this chip.
Don't ask me how it works, it works. If i lock the door with the remote starter and unlock it and with the factory alarm, the horn will sound. I think, or was it the other way around?

Should have seen, the first HODL2 I got was faulty and the factory horn would go off all the time. Got a new one and working fine since then.

These are the units I used:

http://www.bypasskit.com/product.aspx?prodid=HODL2

http://bypasskits.fortinautoradio.co...bypasskitid=41

http://www.autostart.ca/products/ima...Cat_2300_A.pdf
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by narci
Don't ask me how it works, it works. If i lock the door with the remote starter and unlock it and with the factory alarm, the horn will sound. I think, or was it the other way around?

Should have seen, the first HODL2 I got was faulty and the factory horn would go off all the time. Got a new one and working fine since then.

These are the units I used:

http://www.bypasskit.com/product.aspx?prodid=HODL2

http://bypasskits.fortinautoradio.co...bypasskitid=41

http://www.autostart.ca/products/ima...Cat_2300_A.pdf
Too bad you don't like closer, I would show ya. My installer is amazing. He's an oild friend of mine who's a manager of a very very large audio installing company up here in toronto (He did the audio on the wrigley mustang for discovery channel). He knew where to put specific diodes and stuff to lessen feedback that wasn't in the instructions to do.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Too bad you don't like closer, I would show ya. My installer is amazing. He's an oild friend of mine who's a manager of a very very large audio installing company up here in toronto (He did the audio on the wrigley mustang for discovery channel). He knew where to put specific diodes and stuff to lessen feedback that wasn't in the instructions to do.
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