http://www.cardomain.com/event/2007/...?c=0&p=4&i=151

 

i believe that's a turbocharged jdm accord

 

It's a TSX because of the longer intake runners on the intake manifold and it is also left-hand drive

 

Looks like its got the orange side markers in the headlights too

 

he doesn't have a radiator cover

its definately a TSX, my guess is that he turbo'd it and didn't realize he couldn't manage the engine

 

^^

 

i can tell you its got a lot of sweet graphics..

 

Whats up with you RDX guys... are all of you in NoVA? FFX

 

 

The pic above clearly shows the turbo setup is a fake. Just look at the IAT sensor which is located at the stock location. This means there is no boost pressure in the intake system. Otherwise, the positive pressure will blow the IAT sensor out of the rubber coupler.

 

why would anyone do that!

and whats with the intake and red tubing in the back

 

The turbo pieces are probably in place but no boost is being generated. The most logical reason is probably because of no engine management.

 

There is no generic aftermarket piggyback system or fuel pressure regulator for a TSX? I almost find that hard to believe. I wish there was more of a forced induction aftermarket for the TSX. I consider it money well spent compared to just doing intake, header and exhaust.

 

looks like the front mount is for the nitrous only

you can see the nitrous express sticker on the door

 

i guess i should've looked at the pic more closely ...

 

Hehehe... a fake turbo system.

Why would anyone spend the money to make it look like that without the results? That would be like having a fancy, new decked out computer case with a Pentium 4 logo when it's only really running a Pentium 2 cause the motherboard can't handle the P4... same principal anyway...

Unless they did it with the hopes ( ) that one day we will get aftermarket ECU control for a turbo

 

welcome to 2004... They havent figured it out yet and who knows when. Have you thought about SC?

 

i think i remember seeing this car at the... pomona autoshow if i m not wrong....

and i even remember that guy telling me that he got a turbo in it.....

 

I had TWO turbos in my TSX last week, but they were packed in a cardboard box in the trunk. The lag was utterly horrible, I assure you.

 

lol...he's just being pro-active.

 

Does that mean... APS?

 

That's affirmative sir.

 

pack it in the GTO, i don't think you will notice much lag then...

 

Possible to have a .. Custom made turbo?!?! pRobabaly on that car?!?! i dunno...

 

Damn, makes me want a fake turbo sooo bad...

 

that car was at Sema, I talked to the guy who owns it and he´s running a k-pro with a custom harness, I can´t remember exactly what he told me but I think I remember correctly that he was talking about 5psi.

talked to him for just a moment and I don´t remember exactly what he said?

 

ahhh.... rightt.... He , that car's owner, said something about ... t3 / t4 ?!?! those sound familiar to u guys?!?!

 

See the BOV on the intake tube where the IAT sensor is? If he is in fact running boost, guess which component will actually release boost pressure when the throttle plate closes? The IAT sensor which pushes in through a rubber grommet or the BOV bolted onto the intake tube? Keep in mind a Comptech SC setup creates boost after the throttle body, whereas turbo creates boost before the throttle body. I still call it

 

I think I recall him saying that he had been running 5psi and was not boosting at the time I talked to him, I´m just not sure I can´t remember exactly what he said?

 

aright guys...Ive asked this question numerous amounts of time in the past but have yet to get a logical answer...Ive gotten some decent theories from you guys, but nothing that I feel could not be bypassed. Why cant you just use a Greddy Emanage with a generic black box(split second) partial throttle tuning device so you can control closed loop A/F ratio's. Greddy makes a kit for the new Si that uses the Emanage Ultimate as its fuel management, granted its not as great as something like a Kpro, but it works even as a DBW system. How come nobody has tried this out yet?

 

The Si uses a MAF sensor to count incoming air, whereas the TSX uses a MAP sensor. To respond to boost in closed loop, you'd need to install a 2 bar MAP sensor (stock is 1 bar, which maxes out when vacuum disappears at WOT). A 2 bar MAP sensor would require almost complete rewriting of the ECU's internal programming to interpret signaling correctly, because the voltage levels that correspond to particular MAP readings would be totally different. So, we're back at the problem of not being able to program the ECU.

 

theres a simple solution to that...you install a GM 2 Bar map sensor and use the pressure sensor harness on the Emanage to tune...no need to completely rewire the ECU at all.

 

What are you waiting for?

 

its a lease, and my funds at the moment wouldnt let me fulfill whats on the wishlist lol.
I am more than willing to help someone around the NY area get it done though...Ive boosted my last 2 cars ive owned, and helped boost others, although the majority of my knowledge lies within toyota's, but Im not stranger to converting N/A cars into F/I.

 

Hmm... let me see... Hondata has their own TSX for R/D and the HDS tool for prgramming along with years of Honda tuning experience. Hondata is also the company that provides the tuning solution for Comptech's SC setup becasue Comptech's piggyback can't manage their own system even with their own R/D behind it. Hondata is also the company that Red Shift is seeking to support their TSX SC setup. If Hondata doesn't have the solution yet, the problem is more difficult than just adding fuel and changing timing. Btw, Who would use their daily driven TSX for experiment and cutting up the wiring? Keep in mind most people are concern about their warranty. The chances of finding such person is extremely slim. Therefore, it will never happen unless you use your own car.

 

listen, Im not saying its gonna be a fool proof system, it will probly be as primitive as possible with a limit of running no more than 8 psi on something like a 16G, or t3/t4 with something like a .44- .58 AR. The car is high compression as it is. IT can be done, nothing is impossible, will it be extremely reliable? Who knows?? Nobody has really tried it on their DD as you said. Im sure there are many people that would love to have an alternative form of boost, and maybe the real reason why nobody has come out with a system is because there isnt a great enough interest, or the costs would be way to high. Also, its not like you hafta destroy the wiring harness to the vehicle...all you need is a pinout of the ECU and its probly a matter of splicing about 12 wires

 

as evindenced in this thread, people have tried to turbo the TSX, unsuccessfully. I imagine the shops working on their car have tried to make it work, possibly even using the methods you suggested.

its not that no one has tried to boost the TSX, its that no one has been successful