Another TSX traded in
12-29-2004, 02:49 PM
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Another TSX traded in
Well, I had a little bit of a love/hate relationship with my 6MT/CG TSX; the rattles that the dealer just could not seem to fix, the recall notices, and lack of power all added up and I traded her in. I picked up a brand new 04 Black/Red GTO for $24k. What do you guys think.
12-29-2004, 03:03 PM
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Well, my TSX was lowered so kind of apples to oranges but..........man this thing drives sweet!!!! Comfortable, almost plush, yet still connected to the road. Of course the six speed isn't quite as nice as the TSX and the clutch is heavy, but hit the gas and you're gone. Also the interior is great: nice leather, dual power seats, better system than the TSX and very solid, not one rattle.
12-29-2004, 03:05 PM
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Well, my TSX was lowered so kind of apples to oranges but..........man this thing drives sweet!!!! Comfortable, almost plush, yet still connected to the road. Of course the six speed isn't quite as nice as the TSX and the clutch is heavy, but hit the gas and you're gone. Also the interior is great: nice leather, dual power seats, better system than the TSX and very solid, not one rattle.
12-29-2004, 03:07 PM
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Well I really wasn't expecting much at all due to the Pontiac badge. The interior blows away my expectations and I would say that it can compete with the best. I guess since this thing is actually a Holden from Australia, the normal rules don't apply.
12-29-2004, 03:09 PM
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The new gto's look nice and they do have a lot of power. Good luck with them, i love the matching gauges on the inside and the colored interior treatment.
12-29-2004, 03:10 PM
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well atleast you didnt trade for a g6.you do know the the gto is a holden monaro
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...?modelid=12001
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...?modelid=12001
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12-29-2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stuckthrotle
well atleast you didnt trade for a g6.you do know the the gto is a holden monaro
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...?modelid=12001
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...?modelid=12001
12-29-2004, 03:45 PM
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Congrats. The shifter on those things feels like the proverbial screwdriver-in-a-bucket-of-rocks, IMO... but the rest of the car is sweet. It's got my favorite GM interior (a dubious honor), and you can't beat it for $24k. Nice choice. 
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Congrats. The shifter on those things feels like the proverbial screwdriver-in-a-bucket-of-rocks, IMO... but the rest of the car is sweet. It's got my favorite GM interior (a dubious honor), and you can't beat it for $24k. Nice choice.
12-29-2004, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HCF
Well I really wasn't expecting much at all due to the Pontiac badge. The interior blows away my expectations and I would say that it can compete with the best. I guess since this thing is actually a Holden from Australia, the normal rules don't apply.
, lets get some pics! Congrats!
12-29-2004, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by slo007
Recall notices? I only got one, and it was for a flimsy wire cable in the trunk. Something anyone could have looked at themselves...
Some people are really odd.
Some people are really odd.
and in less than year, his GM will be falling apart at the seems. I'll stick with some rattles that I can't seem to hear. 
12-29-2004, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HCF
Well, my TSX was lowered so kind of apples to oranges but..........man this thing drives sweet!!!! Comfortable, almost plush, yet still connected to the road. Of course the six speed isn't quite as nice as the TSX and the clutch is heavy, but hit the gas and you're gone. Also the interior is great: nice leather, dual power seats, better system than the TSX and very solid, not one rattle.
12-29-2004, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HCF
Thanks everybody, I'll get some pics up in a few days. The trade in was $22k with almost 15k miles.
Wow, with that kind of TIV you should have posted on here first I'm sure someone would have purchased your used TSX for the numbers.
12-30-2004, 12:19 AM
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How'd you knock off an extra $3000?
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12-30-2004, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PistonFan
Buy yourself a Southwest ticket to Motown - PontiCrack dealers will trip over themselves to make a deal with you.
Anyways, how bad to u miss ur car, im am considering the same thing, but instead either going for a Z, Sti, or Evo, gunna get these cars used.. i got 21k on the car, if i go used, Im aiming for either that much or less miles on the car.
12-30-2004, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by HCF
Well, I had a little bit of a love/hate relationship with my 6MT/CG TSX; the rattles that the dealer just could not seem to fix, the recall notices, and lack of power all added up and I traded her in. I picked up a brand new 04 Black/Red GTO for $24k. What do you guys think.
You traded the TSX because of minor problems in for a GTO!!!???And you don't expect to have worst problems? Granted, you will have more power, but the sacrifice for it isn't too much worth it IMO.
Well, good luck and come back to post up a list of your problems with the GTO in a year and a half.
12-30-2004, 07:30 AM
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Wow, with that kind of TIV you should have posted on here first I'm sure someone would have purchased your used TSX for the numbers.
If I were in the maket I'd pay 22K for a gently used 6MT TSX.
12-30-2004, 08:17 AM
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That Pontiac dealer must have been desperate - gave him a good deal on trade in and the new GTO.
If I were in the maket I'd pay 22K for a gently used 6MT TSX.
If I were in the maket I'd pay 22K for a gently used 6MT TSX.
I'm gonna check out the local Pontiac dealer this weekend to see just how desperate they are and if they are desperate enough, I might just consider a similar move. Gotta test drive that GTO first though...
12-30-2004, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
You traded the TSX because of minor problems in for a GTO!!!???And you don't expect to have worst problems? Granted, you will have more power, but the sacrifice for it isn't too much worth it IMO.
Well, good luck and come back to post up a list of your problems with the GTO in a year and a half.
Second, I did not trade in purely for little problems, I also did it for power and overall comfort reasons as I stated.
GM bashing for no reason just seems uneducated.
12-30-2004, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fedlawman
I can't get below $27,000 for a GTO using Edmunds.com invoice price, and taking $3500 customer rebate and $500 military rebate.
How'd you knock off an extra $3000?
How'd you knock off an extra $3000?
12-30-2004, 08:59 AM
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My coworker just got the GTO. Definitely has a lot of umph in that engine and the interior was actually better than I expected for a GM car. I think he paid over 30Gs for it, so you got it for a steal. The only thing that bothers me about the car is that the front dash could be a little more stylish and the exterior is pretty boring, but it definitely looks better than any other Pontiac. I'm assuming people who purchase this car aren't looking for style and more for performance. Either way, if you're happy with the purchase then that's all that matters. Enjoy it!
12-30-2004, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HCF
First, what makes you think that I'll have all of these problems?? This car has been around for years in Australia as a Holden Monaro and the kinks are worked out. You should do a little research before jumping to conclusions, I did.
GM bashing for no reason just seems uneducated.
GM bashing for no reason just seems uneducated.
There is always a good reason to bash on GM. It's not an uneducated thing. Don't worry, I've had GM in the family, and you're not going to convince me a GM (except for a Corvette) is worth buying over a Honda.
I myself think buying a GM is rather uneducated...
12-30-2004, 09:23 AM
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I can't really comment on the build/perf. of the GTO I've never owned one.
But I know they are lot lizards in my area and the combo of...
1. Larger dealer inventory
2. Large GM incentives
3. Higher then avg. warranty claims for the GM brand as a whole...
To me sounds like a combo for low resale value which I take very seriously since I usually finance my purchases and I don't want my loan residual to be higher then market value of the car...it's easy to get upside down in a big 3 car.
I actually have a used GM right now that I purchased used from a friend a few years back....and I'll be glad when it is gone soon and we are a completely Honda brand house hold.......it's been a good car as GM's go, but it can't hold a candle to the Hondas.
But I know they are lot lizards in my area and the combo of...
1. Larger dealer inventory
2. Large GM incentives
3. Higher then avg. warranty claims for the GM brand as a whole...
To me sounds like a combo for low resale value which I take very seriously since I usually finance my purchases and I don't want my loan residual to be higher then market value of the car...it's easy to get upside down in a big 3 car.
I actually have a used GM right now that I purchased used from a friend a few years back....and I'll be glad when it is gone soon and we are a completely Honda brand house hold.......it's been a good car as GM's go, but it can't hold a candle to the Hondas.
12-30-2004, 09:49 AM
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I test drove one and man did that thing feel floaty cornering. But all in all I think it's a very attractive package. I, for one, think they look really nice and the power is amazing.
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Originally Posted by sauceman
GM products are not to par with Honda product no matter for how long it has been produced, and whether it is a Holden or not. It's like when they say the Malibu is based on the German Epsilon platform to convince of the quality of the car. It still doesn't make it less of a POS.
There is always a good reason to bash on GM. It's not an uneducated thing. Don't worry, I've had GM in the family, and you're not going to convince me a GM (except for a Corvette) is worth buying over a Honda.
I myself think buying a GM is rather uneducated...
There is always a good reason to bash on GM. It's not an uneducated thing. Don't worry, I've had GM in the family, and you're not going to convince me a GM (except for a Corvette) is worth buying over a Honda.
I myself think buying a GM is rather uneducated...
12-30-2004, 02:19 PM
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12-30-2004, 04:37 PM
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GM bashing for no reason just seems uneducated.
12-30-2004, 06:40 PM
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Ive had two gms.a silverado that went though alternators like washer fluid and the engine seized after crank cracked.And a jimmy which went through two fuel pumps an alternator and a/c.
12-30-2004, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HCF
First, what makes you think that I'll have all of these problems?? This car has been around for years in Australia as a Holden Monaro and the kinks are worked out. You should do a little research before jumping to conclusions, I did.
Second, I did not trade in purely for little problems, I also did it for power and overall comfort reasons as I stated.
GM bashing for no reason just seems uneducated.
Second, I did not trade in purely for little problems, I also did it for power and overall comfort reasons as I stated.
GM bashing for no reason just seems uneducated.
Further, it wasn't designed by any US GM people.BTW, like some have said already, the interior on the GTO looks great (especially for a GM). Good luck w/ your rocket Goat
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