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Old Jul 28, 2001 | 12:54 PM
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So with the air intake, anyone know about any consequencese with the air sensor on the OEM system? If I switch out for both a cone filter and tubing, can I attach it before the sensor? and if so, what kind of effect (if any) will it have on it?
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Old Jul 30, 2001 | 08:30 AM
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i don't quite follow your query but, whatever air filter system you decide on, the mass airfolw sensor should be positioned in back as close as possible to the air filter.....if you place the sensor in front of the filter, you run the risk of getting a false reading .

the sensor will think more air is reaching the throttle body, when in reality, it's getting less.

while you are at it, remove the complex air-box system located behind the bumper. it will take awhile, but it is worth it...
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Old Jul 30, 2001 | 11:34 AM
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so are you saying that I can move my factory air sensor? I am only trying to figure out what putting in an aftermarket intake will have on the air flow sensor...(any negative effects?) Also, what is this complex box you're talking about behind the bumper? You're not talking about the stock intake are you?
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Old Jul 30, 2001 | 12:53 PM
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It will have a negative effect. I had a Eeapon R intake installed on my car (short ram), and it made my car have a horrible hesistation problem.... I wouldn't reccomend getting one.
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Old Jul 30, 2001 | 01:40 PM
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thanks DDUB on your input, can you explain more on your hesitation problem? You think it could have been fuel-injection related? Also, how did you have your intake installed? Just where the box attaches to the stock tubing? Do you buy any chance have any pictures of how your setup was? Thanks for all your help!
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Old Jul 30, 2001 | 02:50 PM
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Intake pics

Well I had some pics, but my photopoint acct is not active.. sorry.
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Old Jul 31, 2001 | 11:10 AM
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can you further expain your hesitation problem?
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Old Aug 1, 2001 | 09:30 AM
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When I accelerated, the car car would hesitate. Like a pause before accelerating. Can't really eloborate on it. Acura said that it prolly wasn't the intake, and it might be a fuel injection problem. I guess it wasn't the intake afterall...

Here's a pic of my setup:
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Old Aug 1, 2001 | 12:54 PM
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the sensor will think more air is reaching the throttle body, when in reality, it's getting less.
Sorry I'm confused by this part of your post. Isn't the whole point of changing your setup so that you can take in more air.
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Old Aug 1, 2001 | 04:58 PM
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hey ddubb, did you get some custom tubing done, or did you just buy it like that? I'm debating whether or not I should have someone do it for me or to just do it myself...but it looks good! See, my original question in the post refers to all the tubing and stuff coming off of the hose...do you know what they all are, etc?
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 07:13 AM
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The tube was modified a bit to fit, but the actual bend of the tube is how it came. I am trying to sell my intake becuase I just found out that it will void my warranty if I keep it on. I spent over 250.00 on this thing too. I'm pissed. As far as the hoses, they're just a part of the intake's breathing process. Not exactly sure what their function is. Let me know if you want to buy my intake. I'll give you a good deal!
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 08:05 AM
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mrdeucie: the sensor may be fooled if it is placed in front of the air filter because the air hitting the sensor will be exposed to less back pressure, then after passing the mass air flow sensor the air will hit the air filter which will create additional back pressure.

so...if the sensor is reporting 10psi at 60 mph. but after passing the the air filter it is only at 8psi, the throttle body will accomidate at 10 psi (because the sensor is reporting a different value)

i hope this clears it up a little......
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 08:15 AM
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shaolin: "You're not talking about the stock intake are you?" not quite. check out the attached pic. use the compare the spraycan to the airbox. this massive thing is what's behind the bumper.

the mass air flow sensor can be moved, providing it is located behind the air filter. (so i've been told)
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 10:30 AM
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ok, so which piece is the mass air-flow system? And this complex air-box system that you're showing us, what exactly is its function, and what will taking it out do? thanks for your help!
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Old Aug 2, 2001 | 11:20 AM
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mrdeucie: the sensor may be fooled if it is placed in front of the air filter because the air hitting the sensor will be exposed to less back pressure, then after passing the mass air flow sensor the air will hit the air filter which will create additional back pressure.

so...if the sensor is reporting 10psi at 60 mph. but after passing the the air filter it is only at 8psi, the throttle body will accomidate at 10 psi (because the sensor is reporting a different value)

i hope this clears it up a little......
ok I get it now thanks.
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Old Aug 3, 2001 | 10:05 AM
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QUOTE:" ok, so which piece is the mass air-flow system? And this complex air-box system that you're showing us, what exactly is its function, and what will taking it out do? thanks for your help!"

the mass airflow sensor is the ring looking part that comes right after the air filter box.

the air box behind the bumper has an unclear function, it could be to reduce intake noise, to restrict airflow (the less air, the less combustion = less emissions) who knows? maybe to inflate the sticker price.

taking it out, i believe will reduce weight, and improve air flow throughout the engine. if you decide to upgrade the intake sys., you will not need the airbox, because the new intake will be entirely inside the engine bay.
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