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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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HIDs!!

Which HID bulb size should I order with my conversion kit?

First off, I have already tried searching the forums for the answer, and I ended up getting REALLY confused about it.

I've seen the sylvania thing say 9003, i've seen people say H4, d2r, d2s. Now which one is the right size for a 97 3.2TL??

I just purchased this car last saturday and plan on putting some work into it..

This is my first post and I plan on staying on this forum!

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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You want h4 d2r.

H4 is our size, i posted something a LONG time ago about 9003 being the same size as H4, but I'm not 100% on that. Do a search on threads started by me and it should be there.

d2r is for reflective housing headlights like ours. d2s is for projector housings like the 04+ TLs.

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

Another thing, I have heard that Kaixen are one of the the best direct plug and play out there. No modifications, no retrofitting, just install the ballasts, stick the bulbs where they belong and they are golden.

Last but not least WELCOME ABOARD!!!
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Nevermind I didnt post anything about it

But I did find this:

http://www.candlepowerinc.com/pdfs/H4_9003.pdf

Hope all this helps.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Welcome! H4 = 9003. Anyhow, make sure you have Casper shields for the lights as the glare will be pretty bad without them (if not aimed properly).

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Thanks for the quick response! Now that I'm a little more knowledgeable I can do some shopping around. I looked up the Kaixen and the pricing isn't too bad either.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 982.5TL
You want h4 d2r.

H4 is our size, i posted something a LONG time ago about 9003 being the same size as H4, but I'm not 100% on that. Do a search on threads started by me and it should be there.

d2r is for reflective housing headlights like ours. d2s is for projector housings like the 04+ TLs.

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

Another thing, I have heard that Kaixen are one of the the best direct plug and play out there. No modifications, no retrofitting, just install the ballasts, stick the bulbs where they belong and they are golden.

Last but not least WELCOME ABOARD!!!
so basically you just change the bulb and snap it back into the headlight housing and VIOLA...HIDs??
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TLBaller
so basically you just change the bulb and snap it back into the headlight housing and VIOLA...HIDs??
yes sir
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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so its like buying PIAA bulbs from autozone but more expensive?
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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yes but you'll have to wire up the ballast to the stock wiring harness though too.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TLBaller
so its like buying PIAA bulbs from autozone but more expensive?
Basically yes. It looks like this:



You put the bulbs where they belong like normally, then hook up all the wires as needed and then BAM HID's.

I mean plug and play cause once everything is plugged up and conected properly its good to go. No need to modify your headlights housings or anything. The casper sheilds are already on the bulb so it controls the beam. You wont have any crazy cut off problems. At least thats what they say about these kits. They are supposed to be among the best.

The sweet thing about this kit is you can have Bi-Xenon too.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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How do you plug it in?

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P.S. TLB, .
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Go90go
How do you plug it in?

~Cheers~

P.S. TLB, .
If you want a reliable hid setup just search for oem parts. Find OEM ballast and bulbs off a HID equipped car. Pick up some casper shields, make a custom relay harness, and it'll be similar to a plug and play hid kit. It would cost roughly 250 depending on how good of a deal you get.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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^ I know, I've got 4 ballasts in my car and am planning for more, hehe. That's why I used the red text.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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I just have to say...post pics when complete. HIDs look so nice if you have the right ones with the fog lights. If you put HIDs in then you have to do something to the fog lights to. Good luck with the mods.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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^ Seriously. I think I've posted this one before, but oh well, :



I don't think this one's been up:



Sorry for the shaky hands, it was really cold. Also, the pic above is WITHOUT the yellow condoms, .

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Go90go I have seen that pic before but it doesn't matter because your HIDs look crazy anyway.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 982.5TL
Basically yes. It looks like this:



You put the bulbs where they belong like normally, then hook up all the wires as needed and then BAM HID's.

I mean plug and play cause once everything is plugged up and conected properly its good to go. No need to modify your headlights housings or anything. The casper sheilds are already on the bulb so it controls the beam. You wont have any crazy cut off problems. At least thats what they say about these kits. They are supposed to be among the best.

The sweet thing about this kit is you can have Bi-Xenon too.
Do a write up with pictures and i will mail you the BEST LOOKING STRIPPER we have in houston to your house!
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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I am seriously thinking of ordering a set from here (around $200 for hi AND low beams) for our H4. good deal?

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Baller those lights look nice!!
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TLBaller
I am seriously thinking of ordering a set from here (around $200 for hi AND low beams) for our H4. good deal?
Good deal but pointless. Our low beams shut off the moment our highs come on, even without locking them. That will kill the low beam ballasts very quickly if you flash them like we do halogen beams, and it'll kill the highs even quicker.

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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hey Go90go , are they the real hid kit? or did chu retro fited? just seems like it on the first picture or you use casper shield..

plan on removing mind. tooo much glare.....and just get piaa bulbs
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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They're real HIDs so I don't know what you mean by that... I don't have a retrofit, but I'm planning on it as soon as I can find the projectors I want for cheaper than where they're priced now. $600+ is not what I want to pay right now... I don't use Casper shields but as desired_speeds will attest to, I have a pretty nice cutoff. There is a VERY small metal plate adhered to the HID bulb itself and it is basically a small shield. I also know how to aim HID kits properly, hehe, .

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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okay i have no clue about these HID terms you all are talking about but it sounds so complicated. I guess no HIDs for me then.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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^ Best bet is to get a Hi/Lo kit with a halogen high beam.

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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can someone answer this for me? is D2R and D4R hid bulbs are made for reflector headlight housing? due to the lights i have there everywhere. might have to end up geting the ones that work well for the reflector headlight.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:33 AM
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^yeah d2r are for reflector housing like ours.

does anybody know a good place to mount the ballasts?
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lg562
^yeah d2r are for reflector housing like ours.

does anybody know a good place to mount the ballasts?
thanxs, i put them on the sides with no mountings
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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if anyone cares to see my old hid setup, here i the link..
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101199
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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^ Holy crap, that's exactly where I mounted one of the ballasts, hehe. On my buddy's car, I riveted the ballasts to the frame and nothing is visible when you look into the engine bay.

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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i had to take the front bumper off to find a good spot for my ballasts. The engine bay is so tight, it was hard to do it without removing the bumper. Anyways, they're both located somewhere under the headlight.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Go90go
Good deal but pointless. Our low beams shut off the moment our highs come on, even without locking them. That will kill the low beam ballasts very quickly if you flash them like we do halogen beams, and it'll kill the highs even quicker.

~Cheers~

I found out you gotta hook up a diode (spelling?) That keeps the light burning when you hit your high beams. They work best for when you have the bi-xenon's. When you pull the the switch, it keeps both on so that the actuator and swing up. I don't now if that makes any sense. You and I were talking about this in another thread. It all made sense when my projectors came. Hey, did you ever do your retrofit? What kind of relay harnest did you come up with for your ballasts? Any pictures? I"m doing mine soon and the wiring is freaking me out a bit
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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^ I never did the retro because of cost concerns, and also not being able to find a good condition set of projectors.

I'm considering those relays now to keep the lows on with the highs, but I actually need to be able to switch into halogen mode in SF because I've been pulled over several times already.

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