石春林

Ok, so on this site I found one thread regarding a conversion to bigger brakes; e.g. NSX or Legend brakes. I followed the instructions to the T when collecting the parts required, but considering I didn't want muck with my brake lines I decided to just have everything else installed for me along with those... but here's the pinch;

All the parts I ordered were installed EXCEPT for the brake lines... the mechanic said that the Legend brakelines don't fit with my Legend caliper/rotor.

Now, here's my paranoia kicking in and I am wondering if you all can ease my concerns or not... I know for sure the rotor was for a Legend but the calipers I had bought (used) were actually frozen and he claimed to have replaced them with his own set of "Legend" calipers.

Does the fact my brakelines from a Legend don't fit mean he actually fit TL calipers on? But if so... they still fit Legend rotors?

Basically, he told me he put in the Legend rotor, Legend caliper, and TL brakelines... is this possible? I read I HAD to replace the lines as well--hence the reason I went to a mechanic in the first place.

I have a 2.5 TL

undyroos

its fine, i run legend rotors and calipers with stock TL lines...

石春林

Thank you for putting my worries at bay.

tmnhs81

Ok so I don't really know about upgrading brakes but here's little something for you OP..


Art alerted me to this thread and asked me to post that the Legend rotors referred to in the threads are 2nd gen Legend ones, which are 5 lug not 4 like your 2.5. If you're running Legend brakes, then you've got them from the first gen Legend which might not even be an upgrade. That's also the most likely reason your lines didn't fit properly.

The write-up is for 3.2s, as Undyroos is also.
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DAiNiUS

OT: is he temporarily or permanently banned?

tmnhs81

Temporary. for 10 days. he'll be back by the end of next week....

undyroos

why'd he get banned if I may ask?

tmnhs81

See post # 16

https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tl-photograph-gallery-102/my-2-5-tl-20in-rim-lambo-doors-lowered-2-5-front-rear-745226/

that guy is fucking annoying. typical douchbag behavior.

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

back on topic plz

tmnhs81

Sure. I was about to post that earlier.

stas2007

Can the 2.5 tl guys get any big brake kit or is it only 3.2 tls swapped with the 5-lug legends or nsx brakes?

TLin401

I think its only the 5 lug people unless there is an Accord BBK that will fit on our cars.

bigwerm187

Am getting a set of stainless steel break lines for my 2.5.. alsooo i was thinking bout putting NSX calipers.... sooo would my 2.5 TL lines work on the NSX clipers............????? alssooo would i have to change my rotors too or not...??????

石春林

Wow, I was wondering why he had gotten banded as well... I saw him on the road a while back and was going to comment on how beautiful his car was... no wonder he got the boot.. The use of that one word alone... I sincerely hope I don't see him on the road again. Nor his car parked anywhere near our city...

Anyway... thanks for the FYI on my "upgrade" to stock-size brakes, LOL

I have been planning for a 5-lug conversion since day one, before I ever knew of the bigger brake conversion. I guess this is all the more reason to follow through with my plans. This really sucks though... not just for me. I remember seeing other people with 2.5s posting they did this "conversion"... Damn, I wish I really took a closer look comparing the rotors and calipers!

石春林

OFF TOPIC - in reference to that thread mentioned above... I rather like the lambo-doors idea.... I am not into flashy rims though. I like the lambo doors for the same practical reasons we like powerfolding mirrors. In crowded or narrow streets (or parking-lots even) who wants a door that needs to be opened wide?

And after reading further into his case... he's not racist... just ignorant. Chris Rock did put it best--but that gives him no right.

tmnhs81

Who are we talking about here. No hard feelings but just curious.

TLin401

NSX calipers don't work on our cars. You need the 5 lug rotor I think.

desired_speeds

I think I posted this before, but...... for the 2.5, you can use Legend or NSX calipers. You need the calipers themselves, the brackets, and the 94-97 v6 accord rotors. You can use legend/NSX pads as they are the same. If by any chance you cannot obtain the NSX or legend caliper brackets, you may use the 94-97 accord wagon ones. I'm not sure about the NSX calipers, but in order for the Legend calipers to fit on, you must put the left Legend caliper on the right side of the TL and vice versa.

TLin401

So 94-97 v6 rotors off an accord are a direct bolt-on to the 2.5s? So the legend calipers will fit on the v6 rotors no problem?

TLin401

Take that back. The rotors are direct bolt on.

They are cheaper than what I paid for the ones that I bought. FML

desired_speeds

yes sir.

TLin401

So what is the difference between our rotors and Accord rotors? Are those thicker?

TLin401

This thread should be a sticky with Colt's direct bolt-on DIY. This could the facts guide for 2.5 and 3.2 big brake conversions.

desired_speeds

I'm not exactly sure, all I know is that accord V6 rotors work with the calipers. I helped my friend do the Legend caliper conversion on his 96 accord 4 cylinder last time.

石春林

Wait, so does this mean I DO have a big-brake conversion?

If I remember correctly, which is actually opposed to my initial post...

I ordered Accord V6 brembo rotors, and he put refurbished Legend calipers on... but then told me the good-ridge lines I had wouldn't fit (from a Legend) so he put on some other steel-lines I had from the past before the idea of this conversion.

石春林

I was referring to the guy with a very nice car but let a racist slurr slip from his lips. I understand his confusion. He probably isn't racist.. just ignorant when it comes to social tolerance. I know where he's coming from when trying to distinguish a sub-group of a particular ethnicity... but he had no right to use that word.. because even Chris Rock enunced it differently than the way he spelled it. Still jocking his car though... I saw him on Geary street in the city. "Dai Npn"... I didn't even know it was a TL when looking in my rearview... but when he passed me up I saw the "Inspire" and instantly knew it was the guy that won those awards and flaunted it on this website. Infact, the reason I returned to this website was to contact him and comment on his car.

石春林

Wait, so does this mean I DO have a big-brake conversion?

If I remember correctly, which is actually opposed to my initial post...

I ordered Accord V6 brembo rotors, and he put refurbished Legend calipers on... but then told me the good-ridge lines I had wouldn't fit (from a Legend) so he put on some other steel-lines I had from the past before the idea of this conversion. I did tell him to put left on right and right on left, now that you mention it.

tmnhs81

Isn't "sista" and "brotha" just a different way of spelling "sister" and "brother", to reflect the way they pronounce it? It's not as if they're different words. You ripped on everyone for talking about learning American English vs. British English and spelling things differently with the same meaning, yet here you say they're completely different. If anyone's ignorant, it's you.

He also didn't flaunt anything and didn't post about even going to the show. It was desired_speeds who let us know that he won by starting a thread located here:

https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tl-photograph-gallery-102/congratulations-go90go-640524/

石春林

I care nothing about his flaunting, what good is winning if you don't have bragging rights. In regards to the "sista" and "brotha" comment with use of spelling... touche (french term in fencing meaning "touched" or for "I give a point to you")

As for my ignorance... not sure what you're getting at--exactly what am I ignorant of? Unless you're referring to the actual events which occurred... I only know what I've read and that's pretty damned condemning, I'm actually suprised at myself for sticking up for him so you shouldn't really call me ignorant if you're truly trying to be on his defensive. If you look at the derivative of the word in question (I dare not repeat it due to whatever) it actually translates as "ignorant", not necessarily "black"... as for the slang they use I care not... it is just a softer tone not carrying so much hate related to the past. When I said ignorant towards social tolerance... I meant just that; he did not know the tolerance of such a word in society--or he wouldn't've used it so freely.

I'm not ripping on him, so quit being so defensive... just stating my opinion. Reread what I posted, you'll see I have respect for him.. he just needs to watch his mouth (or in this case his fingers)

石春林

I reread what you typed... I think you meant to call me a hypocrite. Considering what I posted in that other thread... you have the right to say so, I did conflict with my other line of thought. Now you're just arguing semantics.

bigwerm187

oo what does the rotor have to do with the caliper tho....?????

TLin401

Someone needs to try Legend of NSX calipers on our rotors. If it works I will order the calipers right now.

I'm dead ass about it too

石春林

I have Accord V6 rotors with Legend calipers... I would've gone NSX calipers but why just for name brand? I believe the hype comes from the extra pistons use for braking power, and the compatibility issue was addressed in the stickied-thread... something to do with inserting a washer or some other.

For our 2.5 desired_speed provided us the answer.. get accordV6 rotors and put the left Legend caliper on the right--and right on left... voila. Worked for me. The mechanic that instaleld it said that the stock rotors would work too... so essentially you may be able to just cop some Legend calipers and slap them on--reveresed of course, left to right.

desired_speeds

I'm not exactly sure if the 2.5 brakes lines are the same as the 3.2 lines, but I'm sure that you can just use the 2.5 lines to bolt right up to the Legend calipers. If you can snap a quick picture of the calipers, even bolted on the car, I can confirm that they are legend calipers.






Ohh yea, btw, try to keep this thread on topic.

TLin401

I still wanna know what the difference is between V6 Accord rotors and 2.5 rotors. It is probably something that is very minor too.

石春林

I can run down and take a quick shot of them, behind the wheel though. Don't have time to remove the tire... could you still be able to tell?

As for the off-topic aspect, just trying to keep the peace and build enough clout for him so that go90go to come back in good graces with anyone that took offence. I tend to be a bit brusque when I comment and so I don't want him and his friends to take my opinions the wrong way. I piss off a lot of people because I'm so direct in my approach, I speak what is on my mind and sugarcoat nothing.

Sorry about the size of the photos, in a rush and uploaded not knowing if it'll resize..





EDIT- there, editted the size at the source webpage

石春林

I just realised I double posted my reponse with the photos when trying to edit it, could this be removed to reduce clutter? Thanks!

Oh, and FYI to everyone... the reason colloqiual use of the shortened version of *a is acceptable to some communities when used like "yo, wut up my *a?" is because in some Afrikaan tribes that word is translated as "my king" ...but no one really uses it in that context... that's getting too deep into roots and most people remain ignorant of those puns.

desired_speeds

I can't exactly tell him those pics, but if you can move the car a bit forward or backwards so in between the spoke, shows the side of the caliper, I could probably tell.

btw, you're in the city too?

石春林

Yes I'm from the City. Not sure if rolling forward or back will help much considering the width of the spokes for my stock wheels. I'll try to acquire better viewpoints once I get home though.

As for why someone would be so naive as to claim racism versus ignorance begets me. That's like your defense attourney saying "your honour, he wasn't aware of the law" and the suspect jumping up appalled like "I knew I was committing a crime! I'm not ignorant!" ... seriously, stop being butt-hurt with you and your false-pretenses
and quit digging a bigger hole.

tmnhs81

Dude, WTF!! Discussion was over on that topic about 2 days ago. why you keep bringing that shit up. You need help with your car, ask question. You should not say anything about him(go90go), that topic and the other guy anymore. Its over means ITS OVER. Quit ranting about it and carry on with other shit.

BTW that was posted on 09/30/09. You just want to keep bringing that topic up, its not like you didn't noticed that post before. Now STFU and don't quote me on anything anymore.