PCM replacement on 98 RL
03-25-2009, 05:19 PM
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PCM replacement on 98 RL
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Just a quick question to see if I have to take the 98 to the dealer to get the PCM replaced. Have code P0153- tried new O2 sensor, cleared code. Code reset. TSB says have to renew PCM. NO problem, but...can I do it myself, or does it have to be programmed at the dealer?
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Just a quick question to see if I have to take the 98 to the dealer to get the PCM replaced. Have code P0153- tried new O2 sensor, cleared code. Code reset. TSB says have to renew PCM. NO problem, but...can I do it myself, or does it have to be programmed at the dealer?
Thanks!
OC
03-25-2009, 05:59 PM
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You can do it yourself.
Open the hood and take the battery terminals off for a few minutes. Then reconnect, drive around for about 20 miles or so. That should cause the PCM to "relearn" and adjust to your driving.
Open the hood and take the battery terminals off for a few minutes. Then reconnect, drive around for about 20 miles or so. That should cause the PCM to "relearn" and adjust to your driving.
03-25-2009, 06:44 PM
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Thanks!
Does that also have any bearing on the keyless entry? Anything to relearn there?
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Does that also have any bearing on the keyless entry? Anything to relearn there?
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03-25-2009, 07:23 PM
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You might have to "relearn" the keyless, thats a possibility. Same goes for your radio.. so make sure you have the 5 digit anti-theft code.
If you end up needing to do this, I can help
If you end up needing to do this, I can help
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Well... there is more to it...
Installed new PCM, no start. I pulled up this TSB:
Notes 99-025
October 22, 2001
Applies To:
1998 3.2TL - ALL
1998 3.5RL - ALL
1999 3.5RL - From VIN JH4KA9...XC000001 thru JH4KA9...XC003640 MIL On With DTC P0133 or P0153
(Supersedes 99-025, dated June 5, 2000) SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P0133 or P0153 (left or right primary oxygen sensor, slow response) is stored.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The PCM software is not responding correctly to the input from the oxygen sensor.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Use the PGM Tester with SN010 or later software and replace the PCM with an updated unit.
PARTS INFORMATION
Powertrain Control Module (PCM):
3.5RL Premium Model (with TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-307
3.5RL Base Model (without TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-315
3.2TL P/N 37820-P5G-315
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty:
The normal warranty applies. Failed Part: P/N 37820-P5A-A18 (3.5RL Premium)
P/N 37820-P5A-A08 (3.5RL Base)
P/N 37820-P5G-A54 (3.2TL) Defect Code: 091
Contention Code: B02
Skill Level: Repair Technician Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work. REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Remove the passenger's side door sill molding, and pull back the carpet.
2. Remove the PCM cover (four nuts). 4. Plug the electrical connectors into the new PCM. Install the PCM. 5. Reinstall the PCM cover. Torque the mounting nuts to 9.8 Nm (7.2 lb-ft). 6. Reinstall the carpet and the door sill molding. 3.5RL Only - Continue through the following steps
7. Obtain the five character password code for the program card.
8. Connect the PGM Tester of the Data Link Connector. Make sure the PGM Tester has software version SN 902 or later. 9. Check the Tester's setup information for the correct date and country entry. 10. Select # 5 (IMMOBI) from the SYSTEM SELECT menu. 11. From the TEST MODE MENU - IMM select # 3 (REWRITING). 12. From the REWRITING MENU - MM, select # 2 (ECM) and continue to follow the screen prompts.
DISCLAIMER
Soooo.... I guess off to the dealer it goes...?
Installed new PCM, no start. I pulled up this TSB:
Notes 99-025
October 22, 2001
Applies To:
1998 3.2TL - ALL
1998 3.5RL - ALL
1999 3.5RL - From VIN JH4KA9...XC000001 thru JH4KA9...XC003640 MIL On With DTC P0133 or P0153
(Supersedes 99-025, dated June 5, 2000) SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P0133 or P0153 (left or right primary oxygen sensor, slow response) is stored.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The PCM software is not responding correctly to the input from the oxygen sensor.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Use the PGM Tester with SN010 or later software and replace the PCM with an updated unit.
PARTS INFORMATION
Powertrain Control Module (PCM):
3.5RL Premium Model (with TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-307
3.5RL Base Model (without TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-315
3.2TL P/N 37820-P5G-315
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty:
The normal warranty applies. Failed Part: P/N 37820-P5A-A18 (3.5RL Premium)
P/N 37820-P5A-A08 (3.5RL Base)
P/N 37820-P5G-A54 (3.2TL) Defect Code: 091
Contention Code: B02
Skill Level: Repair Technician Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work. REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Remove the passenger's side door sill molding, and pull back the carpet.
2. Remove the PCM cover (four nuts). 4. Plug the electrical connectors into the new PCM. Install the PCM. 5. Reinstall the PCM cover. Torque the mounting nuts to 9.8 Nm (7.2 lb-ft). 6. Reinstall the carpet and the door sill molding. 3.5RL Only - Continue through the following steps
7. Obtain the five character password code for the program card.
8. Connect the PGM Tester of the Data Link Connector. Make sure the PGM Tester has software version SN 902 or later. 9. Check the Tester's setup information for the correct date and country entry. 10. Select # 5 (IMMOBI) from the SYSTEM SELECT menu. 11. From the TEST MODE MENU - IMM select # 3 (REWRITING). 12. From the REWRITING MENU - MM, select # 2 (ECM) and continue to follow the screen prompts.
DISCLAIMER
Soooo.... I guess off to the dealer it goes...?
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I have my car in at the dealer now and they're replacing/programming a new PCM. They are now asking for the red key which I don't have. Is this key necessary? I have the 5 digit code. Will that be enough?
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PCM Replacement
I have my car in at the dealer now and they're replacing/programming a new PCM. They are now asking for the red key which I don't have. Is this key necessary? I have the 5 digit code. Will that be enough?
Well... there is more to it...
Installed new PCM, no start. I pulled up this TSB:
Notes 99-025
October 22, 2001
Applies To:
1998 3.2TL - ALL
1998 3.5RL - ALL
1999 3.5RL - From VIN JH4KA9...XC000001 thru JH4KA9...XC003640 MIL On With DTC P0133 or P0153
(Supersedes 99-025, dated June 5, 2000) SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P0133 or P0153 (left or right primary oxygen sensor, slow response) is stored.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The PCM software is not responding correctly to the input from the oxygen sensor.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Use the PGM Tester with SN010 or later software and replace the PCM with an updated unit.
PARTS INFORMATION
Powertrain Control Module (PCM):
3.5RL Premium Model (with TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-307
3.5RL Base Model (without TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-315
3.2TL P/N 37820-P5G-315
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty:
The normal warranty applies. Failed Part: P/N 37820-P5A-A18 (3.5RL Premium)
P/N 37820-P5A-A08 (3.5RL Base)
P/N 37820-P5G-A54 (3.2TL) Defect Code: 091
Contention Code: B02
Skill Level: Repair Technician Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work. REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Remove the passenger's side door sill molding, and pull back the carpet.
2. Remove the PCM cover (four nuts). 4. Plug the electrical connectors into the new PCM. Install the PCM. 5. Reinstall the PCM cover. Torque the mounting nuts to 9.8 Nm (7.2 lb-ft). 6. Reinstall the carpet and the door sill molding. 3.5RL Only - Continue through the following steps
7. Obtain the five character password code for the program card.
8. Connect the PGM Tester of the Data Link Connector. Make sure the PGM Tester has software version SN 902 or later. 9. Check the Tester's setup information for the correct date and country entry. 10. Select # 5 (IMMOBI) from the SYSTEM SELECT menu. 11. From the TEST MODE MENU - IMM select # 3 (REWRITING). 12. From the REWRITING MENU - MM, select # 2 (ECM) and continue to follow the screen prompts.
DISCLAIMER
Soooo.... I guess off to the dealer it goes...?
Installed new PCM, no start. I pulled up this TSB:
Notes 99-025
October 22, 2001
Applies To:
1998 3.2TL - ALL
1998 3.5RL - ALL
1999 3.5RL - From VIN JH4KA9...XC000001 thru JH4KA9...XC003640 MIL On With DTC P0133 or P0153
(Supersedes 99-025, dated June 5, 2000) SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P0133 or P0153 (left or right primary oxygen sensor, slow response) is stored.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The PCM software is not responding correctly to the input from the oxygen sensor.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Use the PGM Tester with SN010 or later software and replace the PCM with an updated unit.
PARTS INFORMATION
Powertrain Control Module (PCM):
3.5RL Premium Model (with TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-307
3.5RL Base Model (without TCS):
P/N 37820-P5A-315
3.2TL P/N 37820-P5G-315
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty:
The normal warranty applies. Failed Part: P/N 37820-P5A-A18 (3.5RL Premium)
P/N 37820-P5A-A08 (3.5RL Base)
P/N 37820-P5G-A54 (3.2TL) Defect Code: 091
Contention Code: B02
Skill Level: Repair Technician Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work. REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Remove the passenger's side door sill molding, and pull back the carpet.
2. Remove the PCM cover (four nuts). 4. Plug the electrical connectors into the new PCM. Install the PCM. 5. Reinstall the PCM cover. Torque the mounting nuts to 9.8 Nm (7.2 lb-ft). 6. Reinstall the carpet and the door sill molding. 3.5RL Only - Continue through the following steps
7. Obtain the five character password code for the program card.
8. Connect the PGM Tester of the Data Link Connector. Make sure the PGM Tester has software version SN 902 or later. 9. Check the Tester's setup information for the correct date and country entry. 10. Select # 5 (IMMOBI) from the SYSTEM SELECT menu. 11. From the TEST MODE MENU - IMM select # 3 (REWRITING). 12. From the REWRITING MENU - MM, select # 2 (ECM) and continue to follow the screen prompts.
DISCLAIMER
Soooo.... I guess off to the dealer it goes...?
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