RDXrated's Build - Flashpro, Injectors, Downpipe...

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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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RDXrated's Build - Flashpro, Injectors, Downpipe...

I have a downpipe installed. This afternoon I installed a thermal intake manifold gasket and new spark plugs. I tried installing the 800cc injectors that I purchased with the Flashpro, however, the connector does not fit the injector. I called Heeltoe and left a message, which they returned about an hour later. They explained to me that they just found out Thursday that the connector does not match. Why they did not call me Friday and tell me is beyond me, since only 3 have ordered this package (not hard to track down). I reinstalled the stock injectors and put everything back together. When I started the car, immediately the check emissions light came on. Any Ideas?

It is going to be at least a week before I get the part.... I am excited about getting the injectors put in and Flashpro tuned. I can wait to see what kind of power it can make. My only concern is the tranny. Can it hold the power? Anyone know about modifying the valve body to increase line pressure so it can handle more power?

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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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wonder if it matters on polarity for the injectors.. my next think would be judging by the picture you could do alittle grinding around the oem plug to make it fit into the injector plug.. just a thought though otherwise you will need to splice it and add a new plug that works
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bluecarbonfiber
wonder if it matters on polarity for the injectors..

Good question... Anyone know?

As for fix... I will need to take out the prongs from the stock harness and install them into the harness they are sending me.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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How many miles on those plugs?
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
How many miles on those plugs?
94,800 miles
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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Good News! CEL is off now.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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I had the same problem when I ordered the injectors from heel toe. I ended up ordering the pigtails from the manufacturer.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 12:32 AM
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Yea? I am rather disappointed with my first purchase from heeltoe.

First there was a glitch in their online ordering system, which did not process my order. They told me to use paypal and said the first payment did not go through... But Paypal was declined (because the the online system took the $1,000 from my account and I did not have another $1,000 for paypal). I would have been more upset if I was double charged though.

Second, generally items on their site say "ships within 2 day (X days)... With the flash pro it said buy now. That lead me to believe that they have them in stock and they ship out right away..... NO! They had Hondata ship it to them and then they shipped it to me. I placed my order on 9/11. I got my injectors and intake gasket this past week, but my flashpro..... they only shipped from HeelToe on Friday (9/20).

SO... I had this Saturday off. I planned to change my spark plugs, and install the injectors and the intake gasket. I get everything installed, go to hook up the injectors and they don't fit. I called Heeltoe and left a message. Then sent an email. They responded in about an hour... Impressive for being a weekend. They said they had just learned about the problem on Thursday. (All of 3 people have ordered this product. Why they did not call me Thursday, Friday, or Saturday to let me know of the issue, baffles me). They did offer 2 solutions.

1. They send me a harness. (cut wires and solder)
2. Send me a connector (I remove the pins and reinstall)

I opted for the second.

However, Heeltoe has to order the part (the will order several so they can send the connectors out with future kit sales) and once they receive it they will then send it to me.

I know Heeltoe has a great reputation and through all this, and I did get an apology for the inconvenience. Which was nice to hear. However, I don't feel that's enough. They say on their site, "specializing in customer satisfaction!," but I have not been very satisfied throughout the entire process. Working in the hospitality industry, we are big on customer service. When we make a mistake, we own it and compensate the guest for their inconvenience.

But enough about my frustration with Heeltoe. I am really excited that I (we) can be one of the first to see what kind of potential the RDX really has. I am going to try and make it to the Palm Beach Drag strip this Wednesday to see what time I can run with just a down pipe. Wonder how much quicker it will be when tuned and injectors are finally installed.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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are you the first or one of the first to order the kit?
did he respond to you in a timely manner?
did you get what was needed to fix the issue?
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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the 3 weeks to get the flashpro i waited was ridiculous. Every time I asked them for an update they told me any day.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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Marcus (HealToe) is not the issue with the lag time, the problem lies in Hondata's hands.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
Marcus (HealToe) is not the issue with the lag time, the problem lies in Hondata's hands.
He should have put on the website ships within 3-5 business days. The expectation was they had it in stock to ship out right away, or that it would be drop shipped, which was not the case.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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No one stocks Hondata/flashpro. THey all have to be dropped shipped from the manufacturer. Same goes with Exhaust, clutches, and other high price or large item. But nice work on the install. Make sure there is a map for the new injector also. It would suck if you need to get it tuned on top of playing 700 bucks for the flashpro + 300 for injectors.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
No one stocks Hondata/flashpro. THey all have to be dropped shipped from the manufacturer.
Hondata ships product same day, overnight delivery if the orders are placed before 1pm. RDX FlashPro was in stock ready for shipping September 3rd.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hondata
Hondata ships product same day, overnight delivery if the orders are placed before 1pm. RDX FlashPro was in stock ready for shipping September 3rd.
Never had a shipping problem with hondata before and I have order a kpro 2 different times
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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I guess if Heel toe can piss you off then everybody else can do it way worse, by the way your power steering fluid looks like it may need a change and or top off from here.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thisaznboi88
No one stocks Hondata/flashpro. THey all have to be dropped shipped from the manufacturer. Same goes with Exhaust, clutches, and other high price or large item. But nice work on the install. Make sure there is a map for the new injector also. It would suck if you need to get it tuned on top of playing 700 bucks for the flashpro + 300 for injectors.
Some companies do stock flashpro along with other high dollar parts. Dont know why you think that. But for the rdx being just released I doubt it. And honestly i wouldn't run an ots map for bigger injectors. I'd have it professionally tuned.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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Heeltoe has been very professional and helpful. However, my expectations were not met along the way... from a company with such a great reputation I expected more.

The Flashpro arrived today. I got a call from Heeltoe about the injector clips. I am going to need to solder pigtails onto the factory harness. Heeltoe is going to develop a plug and play but that is going to take several weeks. I opted not to wait and am taking plan B. I am going to having it tuned at AJ Performance (All Jap Performance) here in Fort Lauderdale.
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 11:56 PM
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Got the pigtails. Going go solder them in tomorrow and install the injectors. Also going to give AJ Performance a call to see when they can tune it. I wonder how much power the turbo can support. I have a feeling that is going to be what limits the power.
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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Had it on the dyno and the 2 best runs were 246hp/260tq and 235hp/280tq. Adjusted the timing for the second. For some reason they cant lock in the timing though. The computer keeps overriding it. Heat soak was an issue as well. Monday we are talking with their fabricator for a FMIC and Cat back. I already have the downpipe. The temp was 91 and humidity was 40%. Hondata dynoed 192/245 stock but importtuners baseline was 175/180. I forgot to take video and ask him for the print out for the dyno. I will get those next week. I did take a picture though...
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 06:53 AM
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Quite good gains!........must be fun to drive
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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quick thought. these thing suck to tune on a dyno what about street tuning one? then we would get some decent airflow across the intercooler right? im thinking 3rd gear and its good from 35 to what 85 ish? ( little help im not at home guys and girls.)
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
quick thought. these thing suck to tune on a dyno what about street tuning one? then we would get some decent airflow across the intercooler right? im thinking 3rd gear and its good from 35 to what 85 ish? ( little help im not at home guys and girls.)
Proper fans, ice bags and spray bottles fix heat soak. Street tuning should only be done for touching up after dyno tuning. He also stated it was in the 90's. That doesn't help either.
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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im not arguing the point dynos are a safer environment. I just seems like everyone ( church hondata RDXrated ) is having a hard time compensating for the heat soak. and I don't think that the answer is to go to a front mount setup. more tubing longer intake track more area to pressurize= more lag

maybe rdxrated could use an app like torque to data log some intake temps at various speeds to see what kind of cooling is taking place in the real world vs the dyno?
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 05:03 AM
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im not arguing the point dynos are a safer environment. I just seems like everyone ( church hondata RDXrated ) is having a hard time compensating for the heat soak. and I don't think that the answer is to go to a front mount setup. more tubing longer intake track more area to pressurize= more lag

maybe rdxrated could use an app like torque to data log some intake temps at various speeds to see what kind of cooling is taking place in the real world vs the dyno?
Don't fall into the whole fmic is bad because it might have more lag. I've seen a lot of subaru guys talk the same way. The difference is marginal. I'd rather have no heat soak. But it'll be harder to run a fmic without removing/moving a lot on these cars. He doesn't need an app to datalog. flashpro does that.
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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Nice Job Xrated!
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Nice Job Xrated!
marco your avatar reminds me of this... OOOOOOOOOh i like her

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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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did they tune with the hood open? Maybe it needs the seal to flow through
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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did they tune with the hood open? Maybe it needs the seal to flow through
While that does make sense it can also create more heat soak. A fan on a pedestal hitting the tmic would be best
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 11:07 PM
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Tuned with hood open. I just need a FMIC. <evil grin>
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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FMIC will lag your turbo.. do you currently have the ETS TMIC?? if possible you should put a fan aimed at the TMIC
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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While that does make sense it can also create more heat soak. A fan on a pedestal hitting the tmic would be best
the next step would be to go to an HVAC shop and see about getting a shroud made to fit the rdx with the hood open and have a fan blow through ducting this would get air through the core instead of near it.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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the next step would be to go to an HVAC shop and see about getting a shroud made to fit the rdx with the hood open and have a fan blow through ducting this would get air through the core instead of near it.
Not really necessary. $2 bag of ice works wonders between pulls.

The "lag" from a fmic that is minimal does not even come close to out weighing the fact that it's better to rid of heat soak. You're looking at maaaybe a 1-2psi difference at the most. Any good tuner can change the spool of boost anyhow. Besides its a small turbo that spools fast. You won't even notice it. You will however notice less heatsoak and lower IAT's
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