CP-E CAI Install
Yeah, that happened to me. I put a HKS intake system on my Acura and moved from Florida (sunbelt) to Michigan (not). I never saw the notes from my service file, but apparently something was in there, because it seems everyone from the service department wanted to drive my car. It usually had about 50 more miles than when I dropped it off. And greasy footprints on the rear mats. At least they washed it and filled the tank.
The kid I sold it to had friends who drove the same model - I don't know, seemed kinda (***) to me, but whatever. I saw him about a year later and he told me that his ride was consistently faster than those of his buds. It can now be told that the HKS was just a noise maker so they must have been scared off the gas pedal by the noise he was making.
In light of the recent posts, it's obvious that the speed and mileage gains as noted by the logs I kept were delusional. I still have the logs. I need to find reasons why I was so deluded. Help me out here. These are my concerns:
I've probably spent way too much $$ in buying Shell V-Power, thinking it was giving me the edge in performance, engine life and emissions. Obviously this site, http://www.toptiergas.com/, is a prime example of corporate subversion of the masses. I am so brainwashed that I still look to it when I fuel my RDX.
Call it a CAI, call it a LRI, with a boosted motor any reduction in pumping loss = gain in efficiency and power delivery. The sweet turbo whine is ++. I can't wait to put a hollow tube on my car and let someone mess with my ECU.
I need help.
The kid I sold it to had friends who drove the same model - I don't know, seemed kinda (***) to me, but whatever. I saw him about a year later and he told me that his ride was consistently faster than those of his buds. It can now be told that the HKS was just a noise maker so they must have been scared off the gas pedal by the noise he was making.
In light of the recent posts, it's obvious that the speed and mileage gains as noted by the logs I kept were delusional. I still have the logs. I need to find reasons why I was so deluded. Help me out here. These are my concerns:
- measured ETs were lower after HKS than before, numerous repeats;
- increase of 2-3 mpg immediately after install, 4-6 highway compared to before - intake installed at 25,000 on the odo, sold at 60,000 on the odo (always changed air filter ahead of recs);
- propensity to break traction as revs increased compared to stock.
I've probably spent way too much $$ in buying Shell V-Power, thinking it was giving me the edge in performance, engine life and emissions. Obviously this site, http://www.toptiergas.com/, is a prime example of corporate subversion of the masses. I am so brainwashed that I still look to it when I fuel my RDX.
Call it a CAI, call it a LRI, with a boosted motor any reduction in pumping loss = gain in efficiency and power delivery. The sweet turbo whine is ++. I can't wait to put a hollow tube on my car and let someone mess with my ECU.
I need help.
Originally Posted by BleuM&M
Yeah, that happened to me. I put a HKS intake system on my Acura and moved from Florida (sunbelt) to Michigan (not). I never saw the notes from my service file, but apparently something was in there, because it seems everyone from the service department wanted to drive my car. It usually had about 50 more miles than when I dropped it off. And greasy footprints on the rear mats. At least they washed it and filled the tank.
The kid I sold it to had friends who drove the same model - I don't know, seemed kinda (***) to me, but whatever. I saw him about a year later and he told me that his ride was consistently faster than those of his buds. It can now be told that the HKS was just a noise maker so they must have been scared off the gas pedal by the noise he was making.
In light of the recent posts, it's obvious that the speed and mileage gains as noted by the logs I kept were delusional. I still have the logs. I need to find reasons why I was so deluded. Help me out here. These are my concerns:
Yes, I'm also one of those that oftentimes make use of the 87-89 octane swill. But I am fully cognizant of the degraded engine performance, no damage, just performance degradation. Sometimes the price vs MPG equation works out that way
It's probably cheapest at By-Rite. Gas is gas, right? With all the rocket science flying back and forth about snake oil, sugar pills, noise-makers and $100 tubes, is something being left out here?
I've probably spent way too much $$ in buying Shell V-Power, thinking it was giving me the edge in performance, engine life and emissions.
Performance edge yes, YES, engine life and emissions, questionable, but likely not.
Obviously this site, http://www.toptiergas.com/, is a prime example of corporate subversion of the masses. I am so brainwashed that I still look to it when I fuel my RDX.
Call it a CAI, call it a LRI, with a boosted motor any reduction in pumping loss = gain in efficiency and power delivery. The sweet turbo whine is ++. I can't wait to put a hollow tube on my car and let someone mess with my ECU.
I need help.
The kid I sold it to had friends who drove the same model - I don't know, seemed kinda (***) to me, but whatever. I saw him about a year later and he told me that his ride was consistently faster than those of his buds. It can now be told that the HKS was just a noise maker so they must have been scared off the gas pedal by the noise he was making.
In light of the recent posts, it's obvious that the speed and mileage gains as noted by the logs I kept were delusional. I still have the logs. I need to find reasons why I was so deluded. Help me out here. These are my concerns:
- measured ETs were lower after HKS than before, numerous repeats;
- increase of 2-3 mpg immediately after install, 4-6 highway compared to before - intake installed at 25,000 on the odo, sold at 60,000 on the odo
Can we presume that for that entire 25,000 miles prior to installing the HKS you kept complete MPG records so the FE improvement could be fully validated once you installed the HKS...??
I thought not...
(always changed air filter ahead of recs); - propensity to break traction as revs increased compared to stock.
Yes, I'm also one of those that oftentimes make use of the 87-89 octane swill. But I am fully cognizant of the degraded engine performance, no damage, just performance degradation. Sometimes the price vs MPG equation works out that way
It's probably cheapest at By-Rite. Gas is gas, right? With all the rocket science flying back and forth about snake oil, sugar pills, noise-makers and $100 tubes, is something being left out here?
I've probably spent way too much $$ in buying Shell V-Power, thinking it was giving me the edge in performance, engine life and emissions.
Performance edge yes, YES, engine life and emissions, questionable, but likely not.
Obviously this site, http://www.toptiergas.com/, is a prime example of corporate subversion of the masses. I am so brainwashed that I still look to it when I fuel my RDX.
Call it a CAI, call it a LRI, with a boosted motor any reduction in pumping loss = gain in efficiency and power delivery. The sweet turbo whine is ++. I can't wait to put a hollow tube on my car and let someone mess with my ECU.
I need help.
Originally Posted by wwest
Can we presume that for that entire 25,000 miles prior to installing the HKS you kept complete MPG records so the FE improvement could be fully validated once you installed the HKS...??
I thought not...
Yes, I'm also one of those that oftentimes make use of the 87-89 octane swill. But I am fully cognizant of the degraded engine performance, no damage, just performance degradation. Sometimes the price vs MPG equation works out that way...
Performance edge yes, YES, engine life and emissions, questionable, but likely not...
I thought not...
Yes, I'm also one of those that oftentimes make use of the 87-89 octane swill. But I am fully cognizant of the degraded engine performance, no damage, just performance degradation. Sometimes the price vs MPG equation works out that way...
Performance edge yes, YES, engine life and emissions, questionable, but likely not...
- In a word, yes. My log on this vehicle started at mile 47. The existing miles were put on prior to purchase and by me during a 30-mile test drive. I've kept logs on every vehicle I've driven;
- To each their own, a courtesy it appears you have a difficult time extending to others;
- so now David is taking on Goliath, to wit: BMW, General Motors, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen and Audi.
Here is some eye candy for you all to enjoy. It was fun doing the install.
Here's all the parts to the CP-E CAI.

Stock airbox.

Intercooler cover removed.

Ahhh!
here's airbox, resonator, and battery removed. This was the trickiest part of the whole project, removing the resonator box, very tight fit.

Here's all the parts to the CP-E CAI.

Stock airbox.

Intercooler cover removed.

Ahhh!
here's airbox, resonator, and battery removed. This was the trickiest part of the whole project, removing the resonator box, very tight fit.
The easiest way to install is to remove the battery. I didn't see another way around doing that. You could try scootching the battery over, but you risk a tip-over or short.
I didn't lose any of my settings other than trip meters- just had to input the Navi code and all data was still there.
I didn't lose any of my settings other than trip meters- just had to input the Navi code and all data was still there.
I found it easier to just pull the battery then try and install it and put the battery back then to spend the time trying to get it when with the battery still in place. Only takes a minute to setup the navi if you have the code handy.
Hey if you need someone to install it for you my younger brother has a shop in so cal or at his garage in Rancho Cucamonga let me know he does this as his side job ???
About almost 3 years too late for this information.
K&N is ok but CP&E seems to be the best at the moment.
Or you can get a weapon R and switch out to a better filter like AEM dyflow.
Weapon R way will still be cheaper than K&N but with a better filter.
K&N is ok but CP&E seems to be the best at the moment.
Or you can get a weapon R and switch out to a better filter like AEM dyflow.
Weapon R way will still be cheaper than K&N but with a better filter.
Its essentially a noisemaker. There'll be a bunch of people that will figure their engine is stronger because of the extra sound coming out of the engine bay, but unless the ECU is recalibrated, you're not going to see much, if any, power.
Even with the recalibration, you'll likely see some peak gains at the top end of the rev range, and probably some torque loss down low.
It would be nice to hear the turbo a little more, though. Its probably worth it for the aural experience.
Even with the recalibration, you'll likely see some peak gains at the top end of the rev range, and probably some torque loss down low.
It would be nice to hear the turbo a little more, though. Its probably worth it for the aural experience.
I want to go KN but the cp-e is obviously better due to it being closer to the cooler air. Realistically though is the diff in air temperature going to make it all the way through without heating up from the turbo or the tmic? what are the real benefits between the two? also as far as mpg. will this mod really help? I have had intakes on all my cars with no noticeable difference but being as this is turbo I would think the extra breathing will help. no?
I want to go KN but the cp-e is obviously better due to it being closer to the cooler air. Realistically though is the diff in air temperature going to make it all the way through without heating up from the turbo or the tmic? what are the real benefits between the two? also as far as mpg. will this mod really help? I have had intakes on all my cars with no noticeable difference but being as this is turbo I would think the extra breathing will help. no?
How easy or hard is it to remove and clean the CP-e filter once installed with battery back etc...???
I am tossed about doing it now after watching this youtube video:
According to the video tests, it may be more of a sound thing than actual felt performance.
I am tossed about doing it now after watching this youtube video:
According to the video tests, it may be more of a sound thing than actual felt performance.
Last edited by dr427; Feb 9, 2013 at 09:32 PM.
JGard,
That sucks about FedEx, sorry to hear that. Mine was shipped out on Mon. and I got Thurs. Btw, I think after you install the new intake, you won't have anymore desire to put on a blowoff valve. You're gonna hear everything that turbo is doing, lol. It kind of sounds a little like Darth Vader breathing?
That sucks about FedEx, sorry to hear that. Mine was shipped out on Mon. and I got Thurs. Btw, I think after you install the new intake, you won't have anymore desire to put on a blowoff valve. You're gonna hear everything that turbo is doing, lol. It kind of sounds a little like Darth Vader breathing?
How does the stock calibration handle having an intake on the car? My previous vehicle was very sensitive to intakes and several of the available options skewed the fuel trims so much that an aftermarket tune was pretty much required. Anyone who install this intake (or any other - not sure what's out there for the RDX yet) take note of the fuel trim fluctuations before and after installation?
the CPE runs leaner for the vehicle so as stock calibration it boosts a few ponies in HP.. i ran my stock intake with TMIC for months and it was just fine.. alittle peppier the flashpro made it into a different beast
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