mack-attack

I just added 25 liters (about 7 Gal) of 10% ETHANOL added Gasoline. I heard later that Ethanol has aggressive additives in it very bad for any aluminum parts and gaskets. Is this a fact?
In Europe all Gasoline companies have installed 800 numbers for people to veryfy if their car is compatible.

wspy

You will have no problems using that fuel as long as its premium i.e. above 90 octane!

BigHatch

all our gas in CA is 10%

Mr Marco

^+1 Oregon

brizey

Every modern car sold in the US can use E10. Its use is mandated in several states, so they pretty much have to be able to use it. I assume that you are in Canada, but the power train should be identical--I really doubt they ship separate power trains from Japan for Canada and the US, and if they did, I really doubt E10 use would be one of the differences.

valleverde007

fwiw, a few of us here in canada have had issues with either a) "tighten fuel cap" or b) check emissions light coming up more frequently if we gassed up with 10% ethanol (@94 octane - sunoco/petro canada) vs. 0% ethanol (@91 octane - eg. shell). however, could be a fluke or could be ethanol or the weather or even the gas company, not sure. but i (and a few of us who had these issues then) switched back to 91, 0% ethanol and things are back to normal.

YYC_BoxsterGuy

Ethanol blends have slightly lower power. But should be OK otherwise. (There's other posts on this board that discuss this issue at length)

Personally, I avoid them when possible. Less power = more consumption. And at the same price, just doesn't make economical sense. Even though I'm sure it's a trivial amount...

brizey

The other posts are dead wrong if they say that an engine in general makes less power on E10 than straight gas. It is all a matter of tuning. If the ECU cannot detect the difference and/or the injector system cannot compensate, then, yes, you will make less power on E10. But that is not a given.



I wonder if the RDX injectors have enough overhead to run E85 with a custom tune? That would kick ass.

Ken1997TL

99% in Oregon, I fill up on the real stuff

phrosty

We have one gas station about 10 miles from my house that carries *real* gasoline - the only one left in the area. And I've not been there at any time of day where there wasn't a wait to fill up. I went there when I had my Honda, and go there with the Acura now. I've seen what ethanol can do to the inside of my power lawn equipment, even despite my having used products like Sta-Bil. No... I'll drive those ten miles and save myself all kinds of headaches.

EL_PIC

The best way to see the effects of Ethanol is to examine the inside of engines used in Brazil (they use 25% ethanol from Cane Sugar}.
You will see increased corrosion due to how ethanol attracks water from ground and air. This is what greatly affects fuel and power supply in your car / truck. Current E10 is ok w 11.2 : 1 engines if octane is 91+ but can change day to day and tank to tank performance quite easy.

Note - US EPA, Administration, Corn Lobby, and Midwest Congress is pushing E15 for 2001 and latter cars / trucks (distribution soon).
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...-fuel-proposal

So ... you may not be able to fill up with E10 much longer ...

Kaze66218

Ssome if not all of KS there is a 10% minimum on the amount of ethanol, the amount can actually be higher than that..20%. It will eat the fuel lines in older cars, they are doing it for a reason, to kill the klunkers or older cars. You can do like me and get the ethanol friendly fuel line hoses, as that's the only thing that ethanol is destroying, as far as I know.

Mr Marco

The feds are pushing for 15+% ethanol. ADM (Archer Daniels Midland) is the leader in domestic ethanol production. The company posted record earnings last year (despite our poor economy). Ethanol is subsidized by the U.S. government, just like sugar (which ADM also processes).

EL_PIC

No - reread my post and do the research. Ethnaol eats engines in addition to fuel lines.
GM's 85 % Flex cars {a real joke} may have different lines but the engine is the same.
Alum heads may corrode less but all corrode in time.
They do it because of Greed, Politics, and to keep new cars on the road.
Note your warranty says max of 10% ethanol.