wow.. DNPhotography... less than a year and changing out... Your RDX was like a shiny white princess...were you leasing the RDX?

I might see why you didn't need the RDX anymore (I could be wrong), as AWD is not particularly critical in a hot country like Hawaii... Granted, the AWD grip would be fun to have even on wet roads... But AWD availability was what I needed here in cold and sometimes snowy BC. The RAV4 and CRV "on-demand" systems would have done the trick as well, but liked the RDX better...

 

When did Hawaii become a country?

 

Hawaii was an independent country for hundreds of years, before the USA invaded.

 

oops... me bad... State, not country...

 

I call B.S. !!!!!

 

BS on what? my TL? if so here it is...

aint nothing to BS about here buddy





just a comparasion of the RDX and the TL Type-S interior

 

owned

 

HOLY KRAP !




This does not bode well for my plans to hang on to the RDX and give it to Mrs. Rizzo when her lease it up in May.......
What happened to the wheels?

FWIW: my last 6 cars have been white

 

That TL-S looks sweet except for the rims, they would look much better if they were plus 1 or 2 inches, why did Acura stick w/ the 17's?

 

Yeah, don't dig the wheels as well... simple 5-6 spokes @ 18" will be sweet.

Hey DNPhotography, having ~ 290 HP to the front wheels must be insane to drive... I see it as, no matter how well Honda can tune that front suspension geometry to negate the torque-steer at the wheels, I think it would not be such a great feeling powering through a corner or simply hitting the gas hard from the stop position...

Don't get me wrong... it must be a blast hearing that 3.5L iVTEC engine sing... and the full 290 HP coming on driving the freeway...

But I always see having such power at the front wheels, does not make too much sense (even with LSD)... SAAB tried that in the viggen (and only 250HP), was a nightmare... if SH-AWD was in the TL-S, that would be sweet... RWD would be the perfect match too for the 300HP...

 

sweet TL-S, DNPhotography. love the body kit.

oh how i wish that acura wouldve put sh-awd on the '07. i only hope that the new TL looks as good as the current one.

 

I have test driven the TL typeS 6 spd in the wet a few times and not too pleasant at all and didn't find the auto much better. I knew then that I would be testing the RDX. With the amount of rain we get up here a lot of vehicles of this type cannot go toe to toe with the RDX no matter how much power they have. Not trying to start anything just my experience after owning the RDX for 9 months.

 

yes the RDX and the SH AWD is far superior in wet conditions. here in Hawaii it rains alot. and i mean alot. honestly the SH AWD helps in wet conditions but its nothing a FWD car cant handle. and when i have used the SH AWD i would have had to push the car to engage it.

 

Actually I was talking about from a stop with a heavy foot or even low speed rolling acceleration at WOT, that is just AWD not SHAWD. While with the RDX I can just floor it and go the same does not happen with most fwd and many rwd high powered vehicles and that is where the RDX shines. Many FWD and RWD cannot handle it in the wet against the RDX, I know from experience. It has surprised many who thought otherwise.

 

like i said the SH AWD is far superior than a FWD. but as for most of us we are not going to be "racing" our RDXs off the line at a traffic light. even a short burst of speed to get through an interection the FWD has no problem. even while wet. i also speak from experience.

 

does the TL-S have much wheel chatter in the front if the tires break loose? My RSX-S vibrated pretty bad through the steering wheel if I got on it from a dead stop or on the 1-2 shift when the tires broke loose, but of course that was also w/ the 6 speed manual
That's probably the biggest disadvantage w/ FWD for me, although the torque steer wasn't fun either

 

Yeah.. totally agree... My observation was simply from the point of view, of the FWD objectively not being as good a platform to highly-spirited driving down a winding hwy. But for the general daily driver, where wheel-chirping is not the norm, the FWD in the TL-S is perfectly fine.

Straight-line performance in the FWD TL-S is quite good... stable and tracking stright... The only problem is with how you control that 290HP in a corner... Putting all that power and torque at the front wheels only, and asking it to drive the vehicle and also provide directional traction, would be asking too much...

My old BMW 330i, was really fun to do the controlled tail slides... I remember doing this in a BMW sponsored driving event on a track and comparing to a TL-S, and I could step on the gas going through a tight corner in the bimmer, feel the tail slide out, but I simply keep pointing the car where I want it to go, and somehow the RWD pushed the car through the corner and powered it's way through...
In the TL-S, I did the same thing, pump the gas going through the corner, and it slid tangentially right off the corner, even when I am frantically trying to keep the steering wheel pointed to where I want to go..., and I had to take my foot off the gas, and did an emergency stop...

Of course, we don't t drive like that daily, and thus will probably never exlpore those limits in the cars...

But my point is that, FWD vehicles should really only have so much power in them (say, < 250HP?), because any more, the FWD system will have trouble containing it in emergency situations... A young lad driving it, may not appreciate the limitations of the FWD system, and push the FWD 290HP car too far, and ......

But otherwise, I thnk the TL is one of the nicest looking and good-valued performance sedan on the market today...

 

i couldnt tell you as i am still breakin in the car. but also the TL does have better throttle response then the RDX does.

i agree with you. IMHO a FWD car should be limited on HP because after that even with LSD you cant really control all that power. you would be just spinning the wheels.

 

I'm sure it does, really the RDX is as fast as the 05-06 RSX-S

 

I hope you're joking since the new TL type S will eat the RDX for breakfast. Don't know about the RSX-S since I have not driven one.

 

I don't think he made any reference to the TL-S at all. My RDX is definitely faster than my RSX-S. The RSX-S would get a better jump off the line with the 6-speed manual, but the RDX pulls harder in the high RPMs. I do feel like my RSX-S would out perform the RDX in the twisties, but the RSX-S has had a full suspension upgrade.

 

Im not so sure about that Zen my friend, I have been in a couple of situations vs. TLtypeS and top end he wasnt passing me, the RDXturbo is a beastia...

 

It's very different on public roads since you have to take into account other traffic. In addition, the TL-S drivers might have decided it's not worth getting a reckless driving charge so they backed off.

I understand you're excited about the RDX, so am I . However, all performance specifications indicate that the NEW TL-S would win hands down. Numbers don't lie.

 

yep exactly right, I was only comparing the RDX to the RSX-S

I agree sasair, the RSX-S seemed to bight harder off the line, but the RDX feels faster in most situations. The RSX-S definately wins in the handling dept. I think, but I'd hope so given it's size and sporty suspension (I had an aftermarket suspension on mine also, so really no contest vs. the RDX)

 

You are right I am very excited about the RDX, and the TLtypeS is faster all around, but the numbers don't always tell the whole truth (ie. the RDX's HP rating). One of the service reps at my dealer even told me that the RDX is faster once rolling at higher mph. One of my good buddies owns a TLtypeS maybe we could get some video for everyone so we can show the numbers lying to our faces... The fact of it all is hat the RDX has a X factor and its the turbo, it does damage to other car drivers egos; and i love it...

 

^^ Lol! ^^

 

Well I've had the RDX for a few months now, and I have to admit I find my eyes wandering to look at something else. I also love the car, and find it very usable -- however, I also find it lacking and just kinda ho-hum. It's so good that it has no real character, it's kind of a sterile/anti-septic ride. My other car is a C6 Z06 with coilovers and a cam, yet I find myself driving that car too much through Manhattan. I guess the RDX is just a little too boring for me. I still managed to get 2 speeding tickets in it (first time in a decade ).

However, a hybrid Camry? Ok maybe if you're one of those guys who looks at a car as simply something that gets you from point A to point B, then fine ya go for it. However, if you're somebody who enjoys actually DRIVING, then for the love of god, WHY? Do you know how simply boring and just blllaaaaahhh a Camry is? Let alone the hybrid version? You sound like my b-i-l who bought a Prius because Google (where he works) gave him $5K back if he bought a hybrid. He didn't buy the Prius because he is some eco-Nazi, just because it was the cheapest set of wheels he could buy (with rebates he paid like $10K or something absurd like that). In sum, I can understand wanting to move away from the RDX, but find something enjoyable, something with a little soul! If you have any form of testosterone (or testes) a hybrid camry will be like sitting through the Notebook instead of watching football.

JMHO

 

Hawai'i would be a third world, totalitarian, pineapple-republic if the U.S. hadn't "invaded".