RDX Speculation from TOV
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RDX Speculation from TOV
'07 RDX - The RDX Concept made its debut at the 2005 Detroit Auto Show. The production version should be appearing in showrooms sometime early in 2006, and it wouldn't surprise us if Acura debuts the production version at one of the domestic autoshows (Detroit, Chicago, or New York) next year. The folks at Motor Trend swear on a stack of bibles that it will be powered by a 2.2L turbocharged motor producing around 260hp. I'm personally a little skeptical about that information, but the rumor just won't go away and MT's sources are supposedly "airtight". I'm not a huge fan of current turbos, but a move like this would definitely provide a bit of a spark for the Acura lineup. There's been a lot of talk in the industry over the past few years of next generation turbocharged petrol motors utilizing variable geometry turbines and high pressure direct injection systems similar to the advanced technology found in modern turbodiesel motors. Thanks to the opposing forces of the ever surging cost of oil and the seemingly insatiable appetites of car buyers for power, the industry has been working hard to overcome some of the obstacles (higher exhaust gas temperatures, operating speeds) involved in applying this technology to petrol engines. The combination of variable geometry turbines, direct injection systems, and advanced fuel management strategies results in superb power, torque, economy, and emissions characteristics. Considering all of this, and the fact that Honda's own common-rail turbodiesel effort has been very well received, it could be reasoned that Honda would seek to recover some of their R&D investment on the turbodiesel by applying some of the knowledge gained from that development effort towards petrol motors that they can sell in their largest marketplace. Having said all that, if the RDX doesn't end up with a turbocharger, expect to see a 3.0 or 3.2L V6 under the hood.
News on other Honda/Acura Models
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=346150
News on other Honda/Acura Models
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=346150
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Update!
RDX will come with v6, not a turbo 4.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=355470
RDX will come with v6, not a turbo 4.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=355470
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Well, let's hope it's the 3.2 from the TL then...270hp in a small SUV? That'd be sweet. I would SO hit that!
This would also leave room for the next generation MDX to inherit the RL's 3.5 for 300 hp.
This would also leave room for the next generation MDX to inherit the RL's 3.5 for 300 hp.
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I'm expecting the 3.0 to keep from getting my hopes up, but man, that 3.2 would be great. That would definitely send a message that Honda isn't content to sit back and watch the HP wars, in any vehicle segment. *crosses fingers*
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I think with either the 3.0 or 3.2 it will offer a bit of both worlds, a kind of inbetween option for those who like the FX35 styling and the better utility and roominess of the X3.
Can't wait for more details.
Can't wait for more details.
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Originally Posted by gundamZZ
damnnn....so i guess the TSX won't get the turbo now that the RDX isn't getting one
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What I can tell you is, they need to do something...I have a feeling the TSX will get a slight boost in power in the next year or two (10 or so hp), and some bigger power as an option (240-250hp). But that's just a guess.
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Originally Posted by crisco
my bet is the 3.0 from the accord - but who knows?
- could the CRV also get this as an optional upgrade?
- could the CRV also get this as an optional upgrade?
Not that having the 3.0 in the RDX would be bad either. I hear it's going to get a boost in power soon to 250hp anyway...and that wouldn't be too shabby for a small lux suv. (though it wouldn't be considered competition for the FX as I'd hoped)
Here's another thought, maybe the 3.0 is getting a boost to position itself as an optional engine in the TSX to help it compete with the new 330i. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by AcuraFan
Well, here's a though...considering the CRV is rumored to get a V6 soon...it will get the 3.0 from the Accord. And to differentiate the RDX a little more as a luxury vehicle, it will get the 3.2 from the TL.
Not that having the 3.0 in the RDX would be bad either. I hear it's going to get a boost in power soon to 250hp anyway...and that wouldn't be too shabby for a small lux suv. (though it wouldn't be considered competition for the FX as I'd hoped)
Here's another thought, maybe the 3.0 is getting a boost to position itself as an optional engine in the TSX to help it compete with the new 330i. Just a thought.![Dunno](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
Not that having the 3.0 in the RDX would be bad either. I hear it's going to get a boost in power soon to 250hp anyway...and that wouldn't be too shabby for a small lux suv. (though it wouldn't be considered competition for the FX as I'd hoped)
Here's another thought, maybe the 3.0 is getting a boost to position itself as an optional engine in the TSX to help it compete with the new 330i. Just a thought.
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I like the way you think. You really wouldn't have to do much to the Accord V6 to compete with the 3.0 high-tuned I6 in the BMW 3-series. BMW touts it as the highest rated 3 liter six but it only has a 15 HP advantage over the Accord and uses premium gas. I would love it if Honda stroked a little more out of the Accord V6 to again raise the bar.
As for the CRV and RDX the engine choices matching the Accord and TL respectively sounds perfectly logical. Everyone is expecting a TL with SH-AWD anyway, why not use the same powertrain for the RDX?
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...you could be right about the Accord / TL differentiation in engines, But - remember that the Pilot and MDX share the same 3.5 L engine - just tuned differently to favor the MDX (265 hp vs 255 hp; 253 lb/ft vs 250 lb/ft). Based upon this, I wouldn't be surprised if the CRV / RDX share the same base engine (3.0 L???) but tuned to favor a more 'sporting' demeanor for the RDX.
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Originally Posted by 98AccordEx
I like the way you think. You really wouldn't have to do much to the Accord V6 to compete with the 3.0 high-tuned I6 in the BMW 3-series. BMW touts it as the highest rated 3 liter six but it only has a 15 HP advantage over the Accord and uses premium gas. I would love it if Honda stroked a little more out of the Accord V6 to again raise the bar.
As for the CRV and RDX the engine choices matching the Accord and TL respectively sounds perfectly logical. Everyone is expecting a TL with SH-AWD anyway, why not use the same powertrain for the RDX?
As for the CRV and RDX the engine choices matching the Accord and TL respectively sounds perfectly logical. Everyone is expecting a TL with SH-AWD anyway, why not use the same powertrain for the RDX?
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Originally Posted by crisco
...you could be right about the Accord / TL differentiation in engines, But - remember that the Pilot and MDX share the same 3.5 L engine - just tuned differently to favor the MDX (265 hp vs 255 hp; 253 lb/ft vs 250 lb/ft). Based upon this, I wouldn't be surprised if the CRV / RDX share the same base engine (3.0 L???) but tuned to favor a more 'sporting' demeanor for the RDX.
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Originally Posted by AcuraFan
You're right. The RDX will probably get a variation of whatever V6 the CRV is going to get. (which will hopefully move over to the TSX as well)
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I read the update at TOV....
.......and here's what they have to say:
"We've very recently heard that the plans for the turbo 2.2 or 2.4 have been scrapped for the time being. Apparently there were some quality concerns about the available turbochargers and possibly some NVH issues as well. The J-series V6 is a virtual lock for the RDX now."
......and please read carefully the reasons why Honda went the V6 route!!!.....JUST WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG!!!
right from the HORSES MOUTH ...... NVH and durability concerns were the reasons for going the V6 route!!
"We've very recently heard that the plans for the turbo 2.2 or 2.4 have been scrapped for the time being. Apparently there were some quality concerns about the available turbochargers and possibly some NVH issues as well. The J-series V6 is a virtual lock for the RDX now."
......and please read carefully the reasons why Honda went the V6 route!!!.....JUST WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG!!!
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Originally Posted by vicpai
......SWEEEET
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All I was saying is, don't be surprised if it's a i4...and that the RDX will rock even with just 4 cylinders.
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All I was saying is, don't be surprised if it's a i4...and that the RDX will rock even with just 4 cylinders.
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Originally Posted by lamster
I don't know if it'd rock with just 4 cylinders. It'd sell with 4 cylinders, but to really "rock" it'd definitely need a 6-cylinder engine.
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