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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Generally, low octane (faster burning) fuel is used in engines with low static compression ratios. An engine with a high static compression ratio is more likely to pre-ignite the fuel-air charge -- by compression or hot-spot -- burning it before the spark plug does. Pre-ignition is the pinging sound an engine makes when the exploding fuel-air charge slams into the still rising piston on the compression stroke. High octane fuel burns slower and is less susceptible to compression or hot-spot ignition.

It would initially appear that the RDX K23-A1 with a static compression ratio of only 8.8-1 would funtion well on low octane. However, because of forced-induction the K23-A1 is both a low and high compression engine.

The formula to calculate forced-induction compression is: FCR= [(BP/14.7)+1]SCR
FCR - final compression ratio,
SCR - static compression ratio,
BP - boost pressure

The K23-A1 reaches max boost of 13.5 psi at 4500 rpm and is then reduced to 8 psi at 6500 rpm. So [(13.5/14.7)+1]8.8 yields a maximum FCR of 16.88 at 4500 rpm.

If on low octane, the engine management computer (via the knock sensor) then retards spark timing and enrichens fuel mixture to prevent pre-ignition. This reduces power and the less completely combusted fuel/air charge goes out the tailpipe, wasting fuel and possibly damaging the catalytic converter.

In the case of ChemicalLew's TL-S, his normally aspirated engine has a fairly high SCR of 11.0-1 and requires 91 octane. He made a reasonable effort to eliminate variables, and I think his finding are valid. The computer was protecting the engine at the expense of fuel.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by brizey
It means more like "debatable" than "irrelevant". In other words, a moot point is one that can be debated with no obvious and clear outcome from the onset.
Yeah it's ok, don't worry about my ability to speak the english language properly. I fully understand what a moot point is, I was pointing out that a mute point as was posted would have to be a point that cannot speak.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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There is nothing wrong with mixing 93 with 87 to achieve the 90-91 Octane the RDX needs. Fuel burns based on your right foot habits. At the present time I am averaging anyware between 24.4 to 25.7 MPG in my RDX (Mostly Hwy to get work). Yes, I am driving between the speed of 60 - 65 MPH. The overall MPG since my purchase is 21.8MPG City and HWy.
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