Manual Passenger Seat
#1
Manual Passenger Seat
For the last few months, I was totally looking forward to getting the RDX when it comes out this year. After seeing the new specs, my excitement is almost down to zero.
Does anyone else besides me find that it is completely UNACCEPTABLE that the RDX has manual passenger seat?!!!
What is Acura thinking? Why would anyone buy a "luxury" car (even if it is "entry level luxury") with manual passenger seat. Both Lexus and Infiniti don't have manual seats in any of their fleet. To bring the BMW X3 into comparison is a total farce!!
What will Acura think of next... A/C and radio as an option?
I hope for their sakes, Acura will include power passenger (even it's only 4-way) as an option. It may be too much to ask for, I hope it will happen not for next year, but this year!!!
Otherwise, I say this is the dealbreaker.
Does anyone else besides me find that it is completely UNACCEPTABLE that the RDX has manual passenger seat?!!!
What is Acura thinking? Why would anyone buy a "luxury" car (even if it is "entry level luxury") with manual passenger seat. Both Lexus and Infiniti don't have manual seats in any of their fleet. To bring the BMW X3 into comparison is a total farce!!
What will Acura think of next... A/C and radio as an option?
I hope for their sakes, Acura will include power passenger (even it's only 4-way) as an option. It may be too much to ask for, I hope it will happen not for next year, but this year!!!
Otherwise, I say this is the dealbreaker.
#2
Sorry to rant so much but I have to mention this...
I have been raving to all my friends and family about getting the RDX this summer for so long now. But after telling them that the RDX has manual passenger seat, everyone of them just laugh at the "cheapness" of it all....
My mom even said there is no way I should spend ~$35K on a car with manual passenger seat. And you know what they say: "Mama always knows best."
I have been raving to all my friends and family about getting the RDX this summer for so long now. But after telling them that the RDX has manual passenger seat, everyone of them just laugh at the "cheapness" of it all....
My mom even said there is no way I should spend ~$35K on a car with manual passenger seat. And you know what they say: "Mama always knows best."
#4
I was thinking about trade in my TSX for RDX and found out RDX has manual seat. Deal breaker to me as well.
These are really sad IMO
-Manual seat
-4000 Ib
-24MPG (No Honda Magic, same as CX7)
-No fog light
-Small brake rotor
Let me guess in 09 RDX
-Power seat
-Small increase in power (250hp)
-Fog light
-memory seat
-push "start"
-DVD player
These are really sad IMO
-Manual seat
-4000 Ib
-24MPG (No Honda Magic, same as CX7)
-No fog light
-Small brake rotor
Let me guess in 09 RDX
-Power seat
-Small increase in power (250hp)
-Fog light
-memory seat
-push "start"
-DVD player
#5
I find the lack of a drivers seat with memory a bigger problem than the manual passenger seat.
As the soon-to-be primary driver, and sharing it occasionally with 3 other drivers in my household, having to readjust the seat even ONCE back to my preferred setting is a pain.
For those of you who have gone from non-memory power seats to memory based, should agree that this is a bigger issue than a lack of a power passenger seat.
As the soon-to-be primary driver, and sharing it occasionally with 3 other drivers in my household, having to readjust the seat even ONCE back to my preferred setting is a pain.
For those of you who have gone from non-memory power seats to memory based, should agree that this is a bigger issue than a lack of a power passenger seat.
#6
I agree that I think it is ludicruous that they are not putting a power passenger seat on the RDX. I think they are going to end up taking the same path they did with the TSX. As one of the very first TSX owners back in early '03, I will be waiting before I even think about purchasing the RDX. I will wait for the '08 model at least to see what they do add for the 2nd and 3rd releases. I will be trading my TSX in soon for a TL though and when that is paid off or close to being paid off, I will trade my wife's Accord in for the RDX if it is satisfactory then. I do find it crazy that they are labeling this car a luxury car but it is missing a lot of luxury items.
#7
Originally Posted by bobq
I find the lack of a drivers seat with memory a bigger problem than the manual passenger seat.
As the soon-to-be primary driver, and sharing it occasionally with 3 other drivers in my household, having to readjust the seat even ONCE back to my preferred setting is a pain.
For those of you who have gone from non-memory power seats to memory based, should agree that this is a bigger issue than a lack of a power passenger seat.
As the soon-to-be primary driver, and sharing it occasionally with 3 other drivers in my household, having to readjust the seat even ONCE back to my preferred setting is a pain.
For those of you who have gone from non-memory power seats to memory based, should agree that this is a bigger issue than a lack of a power passenger seat.
Anyhow, both of those features should be on there. But the manual passenger seat bugs me far more because "manual" = "cheap" but "no memory seat" = "no luxury"...
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#10
According to federal regulations (unless it's changed since i last read them), 70% of all cars in 2007 must have Tire Pressure Monitoring, and all cars in 2008 must have it. The number was only 20% for the 2006 model year. Acura might have had to add TPMS in order to hit the 70% number. If they didn't they'd have to do it next year, anyway.
#11
Originally Posted by jaobrien6
According to federal regulations (unless it's changed since i last read them), 70% of all cars in 2007 must have Tire Pressure Monitoring, and all cars in 2008 must have it. The number was only 20% for the 2006 model year. Acura might have had to add TPMS in order to hit the 70% number. If they didn't they'd have to do it next year, anyway.
#12
Originally Posted by Colin
It's worth noting that although it's a requrement, it's not required that it be a direct monitoring system like Acura is using. They are going the "extra step" here to provide more safety and better information.
#13
It's also worth noting that the base MDX has NEVER had a power passenger seat. Of course it is available in the Touring but the premise that a "luxury" car costing mid-thirties, HAS to have is has been disproven by the sales of the MDX over the last 5 years. Myth Busted!
#15
Originally Posted by Motohip
But for the MDX you at least have that option.
#16
Honestly, I never understood the need for having a power passenger seat. It adds weight and doesn't really serve a real functional purpose. Honestly, unless a power seat has a memory function, I really would prefer to not have the power seat and save the weight.
#17
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Honestly, I never understood the need for having a power passenger seat. It adds weight and doesn't really serve a real functional purpose. Honestly, unless a power seat has a memory function, I really would prefer to not have the power seat and save the weight.
Besides, how much extra weight does a power seat add? It's not like anybody is going to race with the RDX?!
#19
Why power passenger seat and memory seat make difference
Memory seats are very important to my wife and I. We alternate use of our cars and we will be using our next car along with another in a tandem garage where car jockeying will be frequent. As she is 5' 2" and I am over 6' tall, I have a really hard time squeezing into the driver's seat with no memory button to adjust the seat before I climb in.
A power passenger seat is generally far more comfortable because there are generally more positional changes possible. For example, we recently rented a Subaru Outback and really liked it in other respects, but neither of us could find a comfortable seating position in the front passenger seat. In my opinion, memory seats and power front seats for both driver and passenger, at least as options, should be expected as part of any entry level or above luxury car. Even the Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T offers a package that includes power front seats and driver's memory seat.
My wife and I have been holding off buying a BMW X3 in the hope that the RDX will provide a good alternative. If it is confirmed that the RDX has neither a driver's memory seat/mirror feature or option nor a power passenger seat, Acura will lose the sale to the X3.
A power passenger seat is generally far more comfortable because there are generally more positional changes possible. For example, we recently rented a Subaru Outback and really liked it in other respects, but neither of us could find a comfortable seating position in the front passenger seat. In my opinion, memory seats and power front seats for both driver and passenger, at least as options, should be expected as part of any entry level or above luxury car. Even the Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T offers a package that includes power front seats and driver's memory seat.
My wife and I have been holding off buying a BMW X3 in the hope that the RDX will provide a good alternative. If it is confirmed that the RDX has neither a driver's memory seat/mirror feature or option nor a power passenger seat, Acura will lose the sale to the X3.
#20
Originally Posted by JHB
My wife and I have been holding off buying a BMW X3 in the hope that the RDX will provide a good alternative. If it is confirmed that the RDX has neither a driver's memory seat/mirror feature or option nor a power passenger seat, Acura will lose the sale to the X3.
A 4 way power passenger seat would have been no different in comfort than a manual 4 way seat. Face it, the Subaru seats just plain ole suck!
#21
I gotta agree, I have a subaru legacy as a rental car as we speak (as we type?). I'll be damned if i can get comfortable, and this is in the driver's seat. The seats in my TSX and integra are both way, way more comfortable, so far.
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Not only that....
Originally Posted by Motohip
But for the MDX you at least have that option.
#23
Do you guys think they will add it at the last minute cause of all our bitching??? I doubt it since the specs are already up, but I'm sure they're going to be losing a few sales because of this.
#24
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Honestly, I never understood the need for having a power passenger seat. It adds weight and doesn't really serve a real functional purpose. Honestly, unless a power seat has a memory function, I really would prefer to not have the power seat and save the weight.
#27
Originally Posted by cheepung
When you pay over $32K for a luxury SUV, you expect some luxuries. I never compaint the manual seat on my TSX since i paid less that $25K for that.
Or maybe all those people who pay $32k+ for an S2000 are crazy too since they only get manual seats as well.
Seriously, I wouldn't mind if my $50k car didn't have power seats if it didn't come with the memory function as well. To me, it's pretty extraneous.
#29
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
People pay $40k+ for a Lotus Elise that is smaller, louder, less comfortable, and less practical that barely has a radio, much less power seats.
Or maybe all those people who pay $32k+ for an S2000 are crazy too since they only get manual seats as well.
Seriously, I wouldn't mind if my $50k car didn't have power seats if it didn't come with the memory function as well. To me, it's pretty extraneous.
Or maybe all those people who pay $32k+ for an S2000 are crazy too since they only get manual seats as well.
Seriously, I wouldn't mind if my $50k car didn't have power seats if it didn't come with the memory function as well. To me, it's pretty extraneous.
People pay $40K Lotus for its 1 g handling and $32K S2000 for its 9000 rpm engine. Someone might pay $100K for the Skyline GTR on ebay now. Those are not luxury cars. People will not bitch about when they have to roll down the window by hand in a Lotus when it can pull 1g. It is basically a track car.
When people look at RDX, it is a luxury small SUV. Your expectation is getting higher especially you pay $32K for it. Just imagine you have to roll down the window by hand in RDX. You get the idea. You either have to redefine technology or at least copy someone else in order to survive in today car business.
I recalled reading a car magazine about bitching a $70K benz without CD player comes standard. You have to pay for it in one of those packages. BTW, I will not complain about the manual seat in RDX’s next generation brother-CRV.
Acura choose to play TSX game. You will definitely see those features in 09 RDX.
#30
Originally Posted by HBomb
For the last few months, I was totally looking forward to getting the RDX when it comes out this year. After seeing the new specs, my excitement is almost down to zero.
Does anyone else besides me find that it is completely UNACCEPTABLE that the RDX has manual passenger seat?!!!
What is Acura thinking? Why would anyone buy a "luxury" car (even if it is "entry level luxury") with manual passenger seat. Both Lexus and Infiniti don't have manual seats in any of their fleet. To bring the BMW X3 into comparison is a total farce!!
What will Acura think of next... A/C and radio as an option?
I hope for their sakes, Acura will include power passenger (even it's only 4-way) as an option. It may be too much to ask for, I hope it will happen not for next year, but this year!!!
Otherwise, I say this is the dealbreaker.
Does anyone else besides me find that it is completely UNACCEPTABLE that the RDX has manual passenger seat?!!!
What is Acura thinking? Why would anyone buy a "luxury" car (even if it is "entry level luxury") with manual passenger seat. Both Lexus and Infiniti don't have manual seats in any of their fleet. To bring the BMW X3 into comparison is a total farce!!
What will Acura think of next... A/C and radio as an option?
I hope for their sakes, Acura will include power passenger (even it's only 4-way) as an option. It may be too much to ask for, I hope it will happen not for next year, but this year!!!
Otherwise, I say this is the dealbreaker.
i mean i undrestand that want for certain features, but for a non passegenger seat being the reason u dont buy car is pretty lame.
i mean who gives a shit, its just ur passenger. my 04 tsx didn't come with power passenger seat xm or heated mirrors like the later models did, but i sitll recognize the car as a bargain great deal back in 03 when i bought it.
seriously think some people are just picking at this point.
and if i didn't love my TSX so much, ur damn right u could count me in that list of RDX buyers. If i could afford two cars i mighta had to go for it! lol till then, TSX it is.
#31
Originally Posted by cheepung
People pay $40K Lotus for its 1 g handling and $32K S2000 for its 9000 rpm engine. Someone might pay $100K for the Skyline GTR on ebay now. Those are not luxury cars. People will not bitch about when they have to roll down the window by hand in a Lotus when it can pull 1g. It is basically a track car.
When people look at RDX, it is a luxury small SUV. Your expectation is getting higher especially you pay $32K for it. Just imagine you have to roll down the window by hand in RDX. You get the idea. You either have to redefine technology or at least copy someone else in order to survive in today car business.
I recalled reading a car magazine about bitching a $70K benz without CD player comes standard. You have to pay for it in one of those packages. BTW, I will not complain about the manual seat in RDX’s next generation brother-CRV.
Acura choose to play TSX game. You will definitely see those features in 09 RDX.
When people look at RDX, it is a luxury small SUV. Your expectation is getting higher especially you pay $32K for it. Just imagine you have to roll down the window by hand in RDX. You get the idea. You either have to redefine technology or at least copy someone else in order to survive in today car business.
I recalled reading a car magazine about bitching a $70K benz without CD player comes standard. You have to pay for it in one of those packages. BTW, I will not complain about the manual seat in RDX’s next generation brother-CRV.
Acura choose to play TSX game. You will definitely see those features in 09 RDX.
if it was the driver seat being manual i must say that mighta been a little different.
#32
Originally Posted by cheepung
I was thinking about trade in my TSX for RDX and found out RDX has manual seat. Deal breaker to me as well.
These are really sad IMO
-Manual seat -- boo hoo
-4000 Ib --- its a friggin SUV
-24MPG (No Honda Magic, same as CX7) its a freakin 4000lb luxury SUV with features up the yin yang and a decnt amount of power to boot!
-No fog light -- its definitly going to be an acura accessory, marketing my friends!
-Small brake rotor -- its an acura, not a Cayenne Turbo S.
Let me guess in 09 RDX
-Power seat
-Small increase in power (250hp)
-Fog light
-memory seat
-push "start"
-DVD player
These are really sad IMO
-Manual seat -- boo hoo
-4000 Ib --- its a friggin SUV
-24MPG (No Honda Magic, same as CX7) its a freakin 4000lb luxury SUV with features up the yin yang and a decnt amount of power to boot!
-No fog light -- its definitly going to be an acura accessory, marketing my friends!
-Small brake rotor -- its an acura, not a Cayenne Turbo S.
Let me guess in 09 RDX
-Power seat
-Small increase in power (250hp)
-Fog light
-memory seat
-push "start"
-DVD player
#34
Originally Posted by sdho
what a bummer...i hope you guys are wrong and they equipped with memory + power seats :P
#35
Originally Posted by 97AcuraCL
if it was the driver seat being manual i must say that mighta been a little different.
Mazda 3 17K
TSX 25K
RDX 32K
#36
Originally Posted by 97AcuraCL
rolling down ur window by hand is something u'd have to do arguably on a daily basis, ur PASSENGER having to pull a lever rather than push a button, i dunno but i could personally care less. they dont like it, get out and walk.
#37
Originally Posted by HBomb
Thank God I'm not married yet. Good luck to any husband trying to buy the RDX and having to tell the wife (aka the dealbreaker) that statement.
#38
Originally Posted by Colin
If there was a "wife to be" for whom that mattered, heck, I wouldn't be marrying her! don't get me wrong, my wive loves cars and after 3 GS-Rs, shes had 2 S2000s. Never had a power seat in her life and doesn't miss it.
#39
Originally Posted by HBomb
Dude, I'm not even talking about the power/manual seat here, I was only refering to "dont like it, get out and walk" quote.
#40
Properly done power seats are far more adjustable
Properly done power seats (ie, not the simple 4 way ones) are far easier to get to a comfortable combination of positions and have a far greater range of motion and adjustment than manual seats. My wife and I have found that it is impossible in some cars and far more difficult in some cars to find a comfortable position with manual seats, driver or front passenger. It is not just the manual versus power issue.