my wife wants one so it looks like were trading in the TSX. just wondering what people are paying for them. i cant see spending 37K for a vehicle with no power passenger seat, but thats what she wants. i have bought my tsx and rsx at invoice price, i know that probably wont happen but i really dont want to spend full sticker.

Landon

 

I paid full sticker for my '01 CL Type-S, my dad paid full sticker for his '01 MDX, and I just paid full sticker for my RDX. It's what happens when you can't wait a few months. But on both the CL and the RDX the dealer was willing to give me a better offer on the trade in than I was probably going to get at another dealer. Also for the RDX I got some breaks on the accessories.

 

I bought my 2004 TL the first month it was released. I had to pay sticker, however, I did negotiate a much better deal on the trade in than I think I was going to get if I was receiving anything off the sticker. If there is anyway you can wait a few months I think you will be able to negotiate some money off the RDX.

 

I was wondering the same thing. I finally suckered my mother into going to the dealership tommorow to "look." If and when we buy it won't be for 3-6 months. Tommorow I am going to pick at the guy about pricing a little bit, point out that they gave us our TL for below invoice, we are loyal, we have recomended people, etc. Also, I have yet to see a single RDX on the road around here.

Mike

 

I haven't seen any around either...I feel all alone. But then again I see a _lot_ of MDX's.

 

Ditto here. I generally see newly released cars on the road fairly quickly in the South Bay area of LA. Other than my test drive, I haven't seen an RDX on the road yet.

 

Invoice is $33,9xx w/ destination. You shouldnt pay anymore than that.

Just go to your dealers website, check their inventory, find the RDX you want, then it should say "make an offer" just type in $33,9xx (find the actual price lol) and see what happens. When you make an offer online you are dealing with the Fleet Manager/Internet Sales they do not work off of commission they only care about moving cars and getting in new ones (stale cars = high cost to keep on site).

 

Actually, you're wrong. And that 'Fleet Manager' has a boss as well.

So much ignorance out there.

 

I paid the suggested retail plus $615 for handling and delivery.
Acura today announced pricing of the all-new 2007 RDX 5-passenger luxury SUV. Making its debut at Acura dealerships on August 10, the 2007 RDX will have a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $32,995. The performance oriented RDX is poised to bring a new level of driving excitement and enjoyment to consumers seeking sports sedan performance in the growing entry premium SUV segment.

Featuring Acura's first-ever turbocharged and intercooled engine coupled with patented Super Handling All-Wheel Drive(TM) (SH-AWD)(TM) , the RDX blends the best in responsiveness, control and efficiency. The RDX is equipped with a 2.3-liter DOHC 16-valve in-line four cylinder engine with i-VTEC valve control that produces 240 horsepower. By adding an innovative variable flow turbocharger, an exceptionally broad powerband with virtually no turbo lag is produced while providing an EPA estimated city/highway fuel economy rating of 19/23 miles per gallon.

"The 2007 RDX illustrates Acura's passion for developing vehicles that can deliver the ultimate in performance, technology, safety and fuel efficiency," said Dick Colliver, executive vice president sales. "For drivers that want the utility of an SUV but demand a sporty driving experience, the RDX truly delivers."

In addition to an exhilarating driving experience, the RDX offers a comprehensive list of standard electronic and convenience features that serve to greatly enhance the ownership experience. The RDX is equipped with a dual-zone automatic climate control system, a 360-watt, 7-speaker Acura Premium Sound System with a multi-format 6-disc changer, XM(R) Satellite Radio and a convenient MP3/auxiliary input jack for connecting popular portable audio devices such as an iPod(R).

The RDX's inherent performance and technology compliments its state of the art safety features. An Advanced Compatibility Engineering(TM) (ACE(TM)) body structure helps protect passengers by distributing collision loads through the body structure, leaving the passenger cabin more intact for improved occupant protection while also making the RDX more compatible with smaller vehicles in the event of a vehicle-to-vehicle frontal collision. Finally, a specially engineered hood and other components help reduce the chances of pedestrian injury in the event of a collision with the vehicle. Inside the RDX, a full complement of passive safety features are found, such as the latest generation of dual-stage, dual-threshold airbags for the driver and front passenger, side airbags for the driver and front passenger and side curtain airbags with a rollover sensor for all outboard occupants.

While the RDX is generously equipped right from the start, it is also available with an optional Technology Package. Priced at $36,495, the RDX with Technology Package enhances the driving experience by adding a 10-speaker, 410-watt, Acura/ELS Surround(R) Premium Sound System designed by legendary recording engineer Elliot Scheiner to create an unmatched listening experience. In addition, the Technology Package also includes several visual and audio communications features such as the Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition(TM) and rearview camera, the HandsFreeLink(TM) wireless telephone interface, and the AcuraLink(TM) Satellite Communication System with Real Time Traffic.

The destination and handling charge for all 2007 Acura vehicles is $615

They wouldn't budge on pricing or financing - I couldn't even get a hat out of the salesman. Good luck on negotiating.

 

[QUOTE=RSXster]Invoice is $33,9xx w/ destination. You shouldnt pay anymore than that.

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good luck getting a brand new model car at invoice a month after its released. Dealers wont move on sticker until at least the MDX drops. Shoot for accessories like getting a protection package for free, or having them over allow on your trade in. Do you really think they can sell every car at invoice?

 

well thanks for your reply, ive been playing hardball with a few dealers in my area. i think i will probably be able to get it for about 1000-1500 off sticker. thats before trade in, so we'll see. this is what happened when we got our tsx, the local dealers said "the most you will get one for is 500 off sticker, we dont need to discount them." 2 weeks later i got one for invoice, so ill see.

 

One of the sales reps today basically said no new car will go for below MSRP, but that he can help a bunch with accessories. We didn't get into it as we aren't quite ready to buy... Of course we will play some dealers against eachother(as we did with the TL), but we have the intention of staying with this dealer. I am interested in at least seeing the new MDX before we make any final decisions. It may turn out to be worth the difference, but I don't think so, especially since my mother wants something more or less small and nimble.

"I'd" be willing to accept 36 with destination, auto-dimming mirror, autobond rock guard, and all season mats.

Mike

 

The TSX came out in April 2003. You bought one for invoice at this time?

 

After all was said and done, I paid just under $39300 for mine, leased over 48 months, with roof rack, moon roof visor, auto dimming mirror, and lojack. I put $7000 down and my monthly payments are $520.

 

I hope you mean financed... But jesus... How long until these guys become less stubborn?

Mike

 

no, it was a 2005. but they still said that nobody would sell a tsx for less than 500 off msrp. they said a 6 speed with nav. is so hard to come by that i would never find one for cheaper. well they were wrong, i also bought my rsx type-s for invoice.

Landon

 

No, I'm leasing. I imagine that financing would be a bit higher.

 

I paid full sticker and didn't have to buy any accessories. I was just happy not to have to buy $3k in pre-installed accessories like some of the dealers wanted.

 

My sales person tried to talk me out of getting any accessories. And they didn't have any mark up like some dealers. Still, I wanted the auto-dimming mirror and the moon roof visor but the moon roof visor would have looked odd without the roof rack. And I think with the popularity these engines are going to have, not to mention the insurance benefit, lojack was a no-brainer.

 

I'd be interested in the details on your lease. What is your sales tax, residual value and money factor?

$520 a month after $7K down seems high. I had a dealer quote me $715 a month on a 36 month lease with nothing down and about $3K in taxes rolled into the lease on an RDX with tech.

 

$715 a month including the taxes sounds like a ripoff. Just do the math and you will see that 36 payments at $715 amounts to total payments of $25,740. After 3 years of paying that amount of money, you give them back the vehicle and walk away with nothing. If you purchased the RDX and it came to $42,000 with taxes, and interest, wouldn't it be worth a lot more than approx. $16,500 after 3 years. You would be better off buying it, paying the monthly payments and selling it in 3 years. I cannot imagine you would not come out ahead........ Just my thoughts.

 

Yes, I completely agree that $715 for 36 months is too much for this car and yes, I would just buy the car rather than lease it if the lease rates don't change.

Which is why $520 a month on a 48 month lease with $7,000 cap cost sounds even higher. Using your same formula the cost would be $32,000 over 4 years including the $7K down. Now that seems like an expensive lease.

It seems to me that right now, a lease on this car does not make sense.

 

I put $5500 down ($4500 was in equity on my TL, $1000 out of pocket) + whatever the tax was (5% in MA) and my payments are $450 mo for 36mo 59% res, 12k miles per year. So i put $1000 out of pocket + the tax and my payment was $10 month more than my TL...worth it in my opinion. BTW my TL was a ballon finance deal out of NY so I could ahve kept paying for another 16 mos. and given the car back and not gotten the $4500 extra by selling it now)

 

I got the first TL-S off the truck back in 2001 with $2000 off when most people paid MSRP. Less than 2 months later, everyone was getting a nice discount.
It may be a bit tougher with RDX though. Honda is spending a lot of money on ads and commercials. Maybe it will take 3 months

 

Im actually not wrong. The Fleet Managers job is inventory movement. He is not a normal dealer. They arent there to haggle on a high price in order to meet a quota or make a commission he is there to get the car off the lot as soon as possible so they can get a new car in to sell.

 

[QUOTE=cali TL]Yes its hard, but thats what haggling is. Shop around, pit one dealer against the other, make them bid on you. Go to a different state if you have to.

They dont need to sell every car at invoice, just the one YOU are buying.

Oh and dealerships make more money off retuning customer-Maintenance/service than from a single car sale.

 

There is someone on here that said they got it $1200 under MSRP with a deal on accessories too.

 

Do you work in the Internet department of a dealership? Do you sell cars for a living?

 

Am I dealer? No. Have I worked at dealerships? Yes, a Mitsubishi and a VW/Audi.

Are you?

 

Some Fleet guys do get paid by commission....

 

Okay so you "know" how Fleet Managers work but are not one yourself? Good, that will establish your expertise.

I do sell cars for a living and do work in a Fleet Department. The bottom line applies to ALL Fleet Managers. Some will take a lower deal than non-Fleet Managers, but all have a limit and if they lose money for the dealership they would not be 'managers' for long. ALL Fleet Managers have a boss who looks carefully at every deal that goes by or went by.

So your statement about them being there to 'move cars' regardless of profit and therefore it is possible to buy an RDX (or any hot car) for invoice or near it is false my friend.

 

My statement, or at least my intent, was that your BEST CHANCE at getting the car at invoice, which I would never pay more than, is by making an offer to the fleet manager not a sales rep who is all about comissions and quotas.

 

You may very well be correct about that, but not for the reasons you stated. And nobody will sell an RDX at invoice right now.

 

dealer dont just make money on selling the cars over invoice, they get paid from acura too. i forget what its called but like my tsx for example i got for invoice, but the dealer still made 900 bucks from honda for selling the car. there is a term i forget what its called.

Landon

 

It's called holdback. Holdback is not strictly dealer profit, although it can be more that way if the car sells the day it arrives. Dealers float loans for every car on their lot. The Holdback pays for the interest on this loan as well as advertising costs and other things. Also, because it's spread out over all the cars it's like a lump sum payment. At the end of the year the dealer should have money left over from holdback but it's a misconception to think it is all pure profit that goes into somebody's pocket.

 

I'm looking to purchase an RDX in a few weeks in Los Angeles. Anybody find a great price yet?

Also, if you bought your car, what did the salesman try to add on at the end? What's not included in the price that I need to negociate for?

If you bought a warranty, whats the best deal you received?

Interest rate?

Thanks for all the help.

Scott

 

Hi Scott,

I bought mine at Sierra Acura in Alhambra. They did not mark up the price nor did they try to push accessories. If you read my earlier posts in this thread you'll see how much I paid. According to some it seems I paid too much but according to Acura's website it seems right in line with the lease calculator.

 

I don't think the price you're paying is unrealistic given the fact that dealers are not giving discounts right now. For those that are getting discounts, it is rare (maybe the person knows someone) or they're full of . The fact is, you made a deal that you can live with and many are waiting and hoping that in a few months, there will be some lower pricing. Maybe there will be, maybe there won't be. Who cares, you're enjoying the car now.

But while the waiting is going on, people will be while you're

 

well i just got my first discounted price quote today. 36,615 out the door.

Landon

 

So if what you say is true, then the more cars a dealer sells the more holdback they get?

Landon