Tokico HP vs. KYB GR-2 vs. Bilstein
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Tokico HP vs. KYB GR-2 vs. Bilstein
Has anybody had any experience with the above products? There's been reviews where it was said the GR-2 doesn't work too well with Eibach lowering springs, it's too soft. I also read that all Tokico gives a pretty hard ride and Konis are more money and also a hard ride. I won't have much use for the more expensive adjustable models, this is Calgary and the roads are all straight. KYB is the best deal, (maybe even cheaper than new stock ones) Tokico HP are a little bit more money. Probably will go with Eibach Pro-Kit for a modest lowering where I do not have to buy a rear camber kit. Teins are out of my price range. Do Bilstein make a good perfomance shock?
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bilstein 10000%, tokico HP and kyb GR-2 are no where near the quality of the bilsteins, but the bilsteins are a touring shock. The hp and gr-2 i think are a near-stock if not fully-stock replacement. The bilsteisn will give a great ride, and from the reviews I've heard of the other 2 you mentions, everyone has told me to stay away from the HP and GR-2 so I'd say bilsteins. But i think the KYB AGX is cheaper than bilsteins and adjustable and a great shock in general.
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I did not know that... thanks for the info.. you gotta wonder when the GR-2 is listed online the same price, or cheaper than the OEM ones.
Originally Posted by Mach30SiR
I always thought KYB GR-2 were the OEM. KYB supplies acura no?
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I bought the KYB AGX and an Eibach Pro-Kit; local dealer wanted too much for H&R Sport. Wasn't willing to drop it any more than an inch and a half, to avoid having to buy the rear camber kit. The Bilstein is my pick because they're supposed to be engineered in such a way that performance doesn't degrade at all over time. Only problem is I don't see the Sport one available for this car. I see a Bilstein HD for the '97 Accord only at a big price premium to the AGX. Other thing I found out was my almost worn out tires were responsible for a lot of the harshness over little pavement imperfections.
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Acura mark up.....
I'm going GR-2, i just want to restore stock ride.
I'm going GR-2, i just want to restore stock ride.
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Did you have to buy a rear camber kit for the slightly lower Neuspeeds? I could still have the guy get different springs, they won't be put in for another week
Originally Posted by shnee420
agx and prokit is a very smooth ride
i put in neuspeeds to lower it a little more, and i like the look a lot better now, but i miss the comfy prokit...
i put in neuspeeds to lower it a little more, and i like the look a lot better now, but i miss the comfy prokit...
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well, you dont ever have to..
but i got rear and front camber kits when i put on the prokit.
i bought an ingalls kit for the front and just did the "washer trick" on the back
but i got rear and front camber kits when i put on the prokit.
i bought an ingalls kit for the front and just did the "washer trick" on the back
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Just changed the order and am getting Tokico Illumina instead.. I read a couple of reports of people with my car who say the AGX's went soft after 5,000 miles. I was able to find someone who put Illumina on a 2002 Accord and they said 26,000 miles with no problems, and plus with this product the adjustment knob is at the top of the strut so all I have to do is pop the hood
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well, you dont ever have to..
but i got rear and front camber kits when i put on the prokit.
i bought an ingalls kit for the front and just did the "washer trick" on the back
but i got rear and front camber kits when i put on the prokit.
i bought an ingalls kit for the front and just did the "washer trick" on the back
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the agx adjustment is on the top in the front and near the bottom in the rear..
pop the hood for the fronts, lay down behind the wheel for the rears.. really simple
you'll find all sorts of stories from people, some good, some bad.. you shouldn't take a few people's accounts as the general consensus.. some people treat their cars like shit, and some people get defective equipment. others wouldn't know the difference between a blown strut and a good one..
i read up a lot before i bought my shocks, and i decided on the agx after finding that the good/bad ratio was a bit better for the agx than the tokicos
but essentially, i think either is a good choice..
there was one honda forum (not sure which one) that was 99% anti-tokico people because of issues with them blowing early or often.. i don't know the specifics of their issues, but it was enough for me to start leaning towards the agxs.. after much more searching and reading, i went with the agx.
i have no complaints whatsoever.. hopefully you'll be happy with the tokicos, i know a lot of people here are happy with theirs
pop the hood for the fronts, lay down behind the wheel for the rears.. really simple
you'll find all sorts of stories from people, some good, some bad.. you shouldn't take a few people's accounts as the general consensus.. some people treat their cars like shit, and some people get defective equipment. others wouldn't know the difference between a blown strut and a good one..
i read up a lot before i bought my shocks, and i decided on the agx after finding that the good/bad ratio was a bit better for the agx than the tokicos
but essentially, i think either is a good choice..
there was one honda forum (not sure which one) that was 99% anti-tokico people because of issues with them blowing early or often.. i don't know the specifics of their issues, but it was enough for me to start leaning towards the agxs.. after much more searching and reading, i went with the agx.
i have no complaints whatsoever.. hopefully you'll be happy with the tokicos, i know a lot of people here are happy with theirs
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Thought this might be of general interest to this forum:
Here are the AGX reviews, I read the ones for this product on 94-97 Accords, also the first one was a CL 3.0:
http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/s...8_2880crx.aspx
Tokico reviews:
http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/s...3_2880crx.aspx
Seeing as how the products are at similar price points I don't see how there could a big quality difference between the two.. but it appears that the Koni Yellows might have better longevity, for a lot more money.
I baby the car though..
Here are the AGX reviews, I read the ones for this product on 94-97 Accords, also the first one was a CL 3.0:
http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/s...8_2880crx.aspx
Tokico reviews:
http://www.carreview.com/cat/parts/s...3_2880crx.aspx
Seeing as how the products are at similar price points I don't see how there could a big quality difference between the two.. but it appears that the Koni Yellows might have better longevity, for a lot more money.
I baby the car though..
Originally Posted by shnee420
the agx adjustment is on the top in the front and near the bottom in the rear..
pop the hood for the fronts, lay down behind the wheel for the rears.. really simple
you'll find all sorts of stories from people, some good, some bad.. you shouldn't take a few people's accounts as the general consensus.. some people treat their cars like shit, and some people get defective equipment. others wouldn't know the difference between a blown strut and a good one..
i read up a lot before i bought my shocks, and i decided on the agx after finding that the good/bad ratio was a bit better for the agx than the tokicos
but essentially, i think either is a good choice..
there was one honda forum (not sure which one) that was 99% anti-tokico people because of issues with them blowing early or often.. i don't know the specifics of their issues, but it was enough for me to start leaning towards the agxs.. after much more searching and reading, i went with the agx.
i have no complaints whatsoever.. hopefully you'll be happy with the tokicos, i know a lot of people here are happy with theirs
pop the hood for the fronts, lay down behind the wheel for the rears.. really simple
you'll find all sorts of stories from people, some good, some bad.. you shouldn't take a few people's accounts as the general consensus.. some people treat their cars like shit, and some people get defective equipment. others wouldn't know the difference between a blown strut and a good one..
i read up a lot before i bought my shocks, and i decided on the agx after finding that the good/bad ratio was a bit better for the agx than the tokicos
but essentially, i think either is a good choice..
there was one honda forum (not sure which one) that was 99% anti-tokico people because of issues with them blowing early or often.. i don't know the specifics of their issues, but it was enough for me to start leaning towards the agxs.. after much more searching and reading, i went with the agx.
i have no complaints whatsoever.. hopefully you'll be happy with the tokicos, i know a lot of people here are happy with theirs
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