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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Need Input. Staggered/Aggressive and Deep Dish Look.

Hey guys,

I need some input. I am really wanting to change my wheels lately but I have a while to decide on what I really want since winter is just around the corner.

What I am aiming at is a Wide, aggressive, Staggered look with Deep Dish wheels.


So what I'm looking at right now is either going with:
XXR 002 16" x 8 with 205/40/16 tires.
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XXR 962 18"x8.5" front, 18"x9.5" rear.
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Anything similar you can suggest. (Deep Dish/Retro style)

Now I only have TEIN S.techs Springs which gives me a 1.8 front and 1.5 rear drop or something like that and I am concerned of how much wheel Gap it would give me with the 16" XXR 002 wheels with 40 profile tires.

These are most recent pics of the car. Just missing the Magnaflow Exhaust.




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Tell me what you think I should go for.

Thanks for looking.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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if you want stagered done right contact fliplyricist1
his setup is to die for
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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^ +1
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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if you want stagered done right contact fliplyricist1
his setup is to die for
and he knows his shit, also look here this dude was selling some sick rims

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/holy-potatoes-cheap-veilside-andrew-vs-746417/

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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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I want those veilsides!
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Those veilsides were suppose to be mine..
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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well if you go with the 16's there is going to be an extreme amount of wheel gap if you keep your current suspension setup.i think your best bet is to go with 18's. but if you really want to achieve the flush look, your probably gonna want to look into some adjustable suspension. I really think the best bet of getting the stance you want with the sTechs is getting the 18's and getting a taller series tire, and a little bit wider with minimal stretch for a look similar to this, but bigger wheels and higher suspension

good luck!
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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I always wanted to see what a staggered fit would look like. I dig it.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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As long as you don't mind getting some chuckles, go for it.

I personaly love the staggared look, just on rear wheel drive cars where it's functional...
it just looks so funny seeing staggared FF cars. That's just my honest opinion.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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DO IT MAN! I wanted to do the same but not keeping my car for next summmer!
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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man that fit is sick..
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spencer_homer
well if you go with the 16's there is going to be an extreme amount of wheel gap if you keep your current suspension setup.i think your best bet is to go with 18's. but if you really want to achieve the flush look, your probably gonna want to look into some adjustable suspension. I really think the best bet of getting the stance you want with the sTechs is getting the 18's and getting a taller series tire, and a little bit wider with minimal stretch for a look similar to this, but bigger wheels and higher suspension

good luck!
Man what wheel are on that Fit? I actually like a Fit now cuz of that pic. lolz
I'm really diging the 16" tho. But I guess I would have lots of Wheel Gap and that would just look like .
Plus the I can get a set of XXR 002 in 16" for cheap, compared to other 18" wheels.

Maybe If I find a good set of used TEIN Basics, I would be able to pull it off.

I can go for 40 series profit on 18" wheels but what size of width for lets say, 18x8.5 front and 18x9.5 rear?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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find something else in a 17. you're gonna fcuk up something running 18's on the roads in the GTA. and like you've already figured out 16's aren't gonna work. If you can find it, the ideal fit is 17x7.5 with a +25 et. you can run 225R45's or even 235R40's for tires, plenty of grip.
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DAMN those are some shiny wheels!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GhettoNinja06
DAMN those are some shiny wheels!
They suit that CL very nicely!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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DAMN those are some shiny wheels!
AND tires!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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If it we're my car I'd leave it the way it is as man those rims look good on there. But hey whatever you like
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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I've been looking for the same thing myself. For those who have this look, please post pics...
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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I found some 17x8's with a +35 offset I might try. I'm just not sure what it will look like with only a 1.5" drop.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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lol. Thanks for the

I'm keeping my eye out for the look I want. I just might wait a bit. But again, when I look are the 16" XXR's I just loved them.
I Like my CL as it is but just the fact that it looks skinny from the front and back, I want it to look wide and fat.
18" could have a possible chance of rubbing the fender, depending on how wide is the wheels.
17"'s could do the trick but I don't know?!?!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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lol. Thanks for the

I'm keeping my eye out for the look I want. I just might wait a bit. But again, when I look are the 16" XXR's I just loved them.
I Like my CL as it is but just the fact that it looks skinny from the front and back, I want it to look wide and fat.
18" could have a possible chance of rubbing the fender, depending on how wide is the wheels.
17"'s could do the trick but I don't know?!?!
looking wide and fat is not only going to take some wide wheels, but the perfect offset, camber, wheel size, and wheel heighth. if you get 16's with your current drop, and try to look wide and fat, its just going to look mexican becasue its going to poke WAY too far, or have WAY too much wheel gap.

i wish some more knowledgable members would chime in here instead of whats going on, because im trying to help you, but i dont know very much.

if i were you i would just google low offset wheels. and read. read, and read some more. get an understanding of what the numbers all mean, and you will have a better idea of what you want to do. shit if all else fails measure.

Your definately not going to just "Fall" into having the stance your talking about. it takes precise planning. like i said, my best advice is read, read until you really understand what this whole low offset game is really about
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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this really isn't that hard to figure out. enough of us have the stagger/flush look.

you just need to decide on 16's, 17's or 18's. looks like you have a decent drop so you will need a camber kit for the front at the very least. i only have a 1.8 eibach drop all around. deffinetly getting a camber kit next spring, the low offset seems to be increasing my camber wear.

but yeah there's alot of room in the wheel wells, so you have a lot of options, but are kinda limited by the 4bolt. look for stuff fitted for the old 4bolt 240sx's.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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theres a big difference in actually getting some low offset or aggressive wheels to fit, and making them look flush. but i think hes talking about doing something a little more aggressive. because there will be no wide and fat look becasue they wont look like they barely fit the car.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 12:04 AM
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well if he goes to aggressive he'll fuck up his ride when he goes into toronto. actually there's shitty roads everywhere in the gta.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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well if he goes to aggressive he'll fuck up his ride when he goes into toronto. actually there's shitty roads everywhere in the gta.
115% right on that one...Mississauga has better roads then Toronto
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Same for Chicago...pothole after pothole...then once they're all fixed...its winter again & the summer rims & tires come off.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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depends on what you're going for... if i were you i'd be looking at wide 18 inch wheels with a VIP style, maybe staggered or not...
and looking at wheels off of 240sx's is a great idea, when i was in the market for wheels i checked zilvia.net's classifieds for wheels regularily, as they had a great used wheel selection, and lots of them will fit the cl.
And btw older japanese wheels are easier to find in 4x114.3 than most ppl might think, as quite a few wheels come in the dual bolt pattern of 5x114.3 and 4x114.3, which also means a wider demographic for if you ever decide to sell your wheel setup in the future.
i'd say start looking at different types of wheels and decide what you like, from your choices i'd take the 18 inch sportmaxx's, but there is still a lot more styles i'd pick over them.
good luck with your search
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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i was shopping all day for sum XXR 962 rims and i found some thatll look perfect on mine. there 17x7 f 17x9 r. im trying to determine the right drop and tire sizes though. im lookn at eibach lowering springs which gnna drop it 1.4''. any suggestions
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just go for some coilovers so you can adjust the height perfectly.
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Sorry to say this cus I know he has a badass cl but the white one is getting a little bit, little mexico............ It looks like some of the F-150's that roll around here during blueberry pickin time............ Just a bit to busy...........
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http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1542

found this site. real sick. heres a link to a thread for determining wheel fitment. in the post there are numerous different links to offset and wheel calculators
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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spencer hit the nail on the head....its not just wheel width but a combination of width, offset, tire profile and camber


what exactly are you going for? IMO sportmax 8.5" are far from aggressive, at least if I'm understanding correctly it seems as though you're looking to push the limits. Well if you want the limits, I can tell you pretty much what the limits are if you're keeping the stock metal and not flaring on our cl's

here is 18x10 +35 effective on the rears... 225/40 stretch on a 9" with full camber (-4.8),fenders rolled til they couldn't roll anymore, and dropped close to 4" tucking about 3/4" of rubber:






rear bumper tabs completely dremeled out as well. IMO this was the absolute limit of fitment without flaring, but I just could not keep it for DD'ing as it not only burned all the lettering off my tires, but just was not practical. I've since reverted back to my 9" with +7mm spacer and 4 washers on each bolt camber trick and it sits just about as flush as flush can be, minus any grotesque poke.

As for fronts, I don't have pics yet because I'm getting 215/35's put on soon, but 18x9" + mid 30's offset is a real good look with about -2.x camber. You can get away with 18x8" with 215/35's and camber set to 0 for a pretty flush look, but you still may need another +10 mm spacer or so to get it dead-on. Unfortunately I am tucking about 1/2" of tire up front and had a mishap while running a 1" spacer for effect 9" +35 up front and hit a bump during a full point turn and pretty much creased up my drivers side fender. Pay to play, I guess... : /

I would say, if I had the money and room to order a full set of custom wheels, I would go with the following for supreme fitment:

front: 9" +27mm on a 215/35 w/ ~ -2.x camber
rear: 9.5" +30mm on a 225/40 w/ ~ 3.x camber

But this is all taking into consideration that I roll tucked all around...your mileage will vary depending on how low you're willing to go. Either way maximum fitment isn't always an exact science, as different tires will stretch differently and several minor factors.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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that's the scance I settled on. far from bosozuku, but aggressive enough for my liking and still maintaining a bit of practicality for DD'ing

good luck with your choice
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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i could have never imagined fitting a 18x10 on our car.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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^ yess! i was actually shooting for 18x10 et 35 as an aiming point. great!
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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that last pic posted by flip is what i would consider the perfect stance. that honda fit is hideous with the rims hangin out like that. i like everything fitting in nicely inside the wheel well.
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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^^ you can dewit, man!!!!

lol actually 18x10 +35 (effective) would be just about dead-on with a 215/35 stretch, which is pretty extreme, but should afford you that extra 5mm clearance or so that is really needed. the real problem lies in how stiff your suspension is, because hitting a large bump would mean your rim lip goes directly into fender metal = no good
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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I can't decide on a set up to save my life..

was lookin at some 17x9s +22...opinions, thoughts?
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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whitey, thanks a lot for the kind words bro...its not quite perfect in my eyes but its definitely practical for my needs since this is my only car


teh: 9" +22...ok, lets break this down...that's about the same effective fitment as 9.5" +35 ..please refer to the pics of the green cl up top with gold sportmax rims...i believe those are 9.5" +22 in the rear

is it +22 all around? If so, you're probably going to be running into issues up front unless you're going with 205/40 and a crap load of camber...I personally wouldn't do more than 9" up front...but that's just me...
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