why is our redline so low? (2.2)
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why is our redline so low? (2.2)
I have a 97 2.2 and my redline is like 6200. However, when i shift at red line in first gear to second gear it puts me at like 4000 rpm which is out of the power band. I've been told V-TEC kicks in at 4500 rpm on our cars. So, a few times to try it out i held 1st gear to 7000 rmp and then shifted to 2nd and the revs landed at 4500 rmp and the accelleration was much smoother and faster. So, can anyone tell me why our redline is so low and what i need to do to make my motor stronger so i can shift at 7000 rmp on a regular basis. I'm thinking upgraded valves and springs should do it.
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Originally Posted by STL+3.0CL
7000 RPM's
Keep it up man!
Keep it up man!
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on our motors we dont have enough lubrication at the higher RPM's. I've also had a B18 and shifted at 10,000 RPM when needed with no prob but thats b/c on those motors you have oil squirters on the cylinder walls. Our 2.2's dont have those so reving to 7k is not a good idea. Once and a while is fine but i wouldnt do it all the time.
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swap in the oil squirters on the H22/23 motor into your F22/23 motor to get better lubrication along with the valves and whatnot that you said you were gonna do. I forgot who suggested this before but if i get another CL that i will be a mod i will be doing along with some other motor stuff
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Thank you guys so much for your tech support. I was about to bounce out of this online mag since by the first few replys I was getting the impression that I was the most educated one here. Nice to know there are still people out there who know more than me and can teach me a thing or 2.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyRohrs
let me explane something to you guys. I have been in a 92 acura integra with a 1.8 ls motor that was shifted at 11000 rmp and nothing bad happend. The guy told me that all he did was swap the valves and springs to skunk 2 components and it worked fine. I was wondering if anyone else had done something similar with our motors. And yes there is power all the way to 7k trust me I know. This was more a cry for technical help. I want to know if the redline is the redline b/c I'm risking putting my valves into my pistons or if the lubrication isn't adequate or if the valves simply float. Anyone with mechanical knowledge of our motors please reply.
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Im gonna have to call you out on this... But Your a fu**ing liar bro. I just sold my Integra GS-r and I had the motor fully built with a toda head and High comp pistons and I could barely get it to rev to 9000 rpm and it revs to 8000 stock the ls block only revs to 6900! to say you reved your ls to 11000 is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Im a noob here cause I just purchased my cl-s but I know my Sh*t when it comes to integras and tunning Hondas so please leave the B/S outta here. The reason why you guys cant rev higher than 6200rpms is because the stock internals cant produce any more power after 6200. So basicily the motor is worthless.
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If you want to rev higher replace your internals with a set of higher compression pistons, new cams, crankshaft, a programmable ecu that will produce fuel after the revlimiter (redline). Get a vafc 2 so you can manage your fuel curve and you can manage when your v-tec kicks, then youll probably want to get a tachometer!
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if your motor isn't built to pass redline, then you really shouldn't. Do it more often and watch a piston go through the roof.
BTW, this is a CL thread, NOT an Integra thread.
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BTW, this is a CL thread, NOT an Integra thread.
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Originally Posted by slowcl-s
Im gonna have to call you out on this... But Your a fu**ing liar bro. I just sold my Integra GS-r and I had the motor fully built with a toda head and High comp pistons and I could barely get it to rev to 9000 rpm and it revs to 8000 stock the ls block only revs to 6900! to say you reved your ls to 11000 is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Im a noob here cause I just purchased my cl-s but I know my Sh*t when it comes to integras and tunning Hondas so please leave the B/S outta here. The reason why you guys cant rev higher than 6200rpms is because the stock internals cant produce any more power after 6200. So basicily the motor is worthless.
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Originally Posted by slowcl-s
Im gonna have to call you out on this... But Your a fu**ing liar bro. I just sold my Integra GS-r and I had the motor fully built with a toda head and High comp pistons and I could barely get it to rev to 9000 rpm and it revs to 8000 stock the ls block only revs to 6900! to say you reved your ls to 11000 is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Im a noob here cause I just purchased my cl-s but I know my Sh*t when it comes to integras and tunning Hondas so please leave the B/S outta here. The reason why you guys cant rev higher than 6200rpms is because the stock internals cant produce any more power after 6200. So basicily the motor is worthless.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyRohrs
Thank you guys so much for your tech support. I was about to bounce out of this online mag since by the first few replys I was getting the impression that I was the most educated one here. Nice to know there are still people out there who know more than me and can teach me a thing or 2.
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Originally Posted by slowcl-s
Im gonna have to call you out on this... But Your a fu**ing liar bro. I just sold my Integra GS-r and I had the motor fully built with a toda head and High comp pistons and I could barely get it to rev to 9000 rpm and it revs to 8000 stock the ls block only revs to 6900! to say you reved your ls to 11000 is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Im a noob here cause I just purchased my cl-s but I know my Sh*t when it comes to integras and tunning Hondas so please leave the B/S outta here. The reason why you guys cant rev higher than 6200rpms is because the stock internals cant produce any more power after 6200. So basicily the motor is worthless.
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
swap in the oil squirters on the H22/23 motor into your F22/23 motor to get better lubrication along with the valves and whatnot that you said you were gonna do. I forgot who suggested this before but if i get another CL that i will be a mod i will be doing along with some other motor stuff
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Didn't mean the f23 is worthless my no means. I ment it is worthless pass the redline. We wont go there with the b18c1 teg vs. the f23 sohc cl, cause we all know which is a better built motor. And I was using the Integra for an example I think I know that, hints the www.acura-cl.com website. I would never talk down a honda motor ever cause its all in how you tune it, but I cant have someone say there reving their ls block to 11k. And you have never seen a toda head!! haha I will have a pics for you! I love it when people think they know everything about cars.... But yeah I love my 2nd gen cl! Im not a hater on you guys Im just trying to keep it real! LOL
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Originally Posted by Wannarace62188
Ummm.. i kno this isnt towards me but just so you know it is true.. I redline 10k in my GS-R all day. Now 11k ok maybe not true but possible. ITs all in the tune and build. My teggy has GS-R block with CTR pistons and Spoon stage 3 cams and port/polish/3 angle valve job and a pherabile chipped ECU whichs allows me to 10k. Yes i take it there b/c there is power that high. When you say 9k that is on stock ecu probably. I will take video of hitting 9500-10,000 if you dont believe me too. Just had to clear that up for ya.
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Originally Posted by slowcl-s
Didn't mean the f23 is worthless my no means. I ment it is worthless pass the redline. We wont go there with the b18c1 teg vs. the f23 sohc cl, cause we all know which is a better built motor. And I was using the Integra for an example I think I know that, hints the www.acura-cl.com website. I would never talk down a honda motor ever cause its all in how you tune it, but I cant have someone say there reving their ls block to 11k. And you have never seen a toda head!! haha I will have a pics for you! I love it when people think they know everything about cars.... But yeah I love my 2nd gen cl! Im not a hater on you guys Im just trying to keep it real! LOL
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Originally Posted by starboy2nv
and great choice on that head...
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