is there a big difference between the 97' 2.2 CL and 97' 3.0 CL ????

 

yea about

50 horses

 

my 3.0 pull the hell out of a 2.2 5speed with i/h/e/p

so yeah big differents

 

if they are both premium, the only difference besides the engine and obvoiously the weight should be heated seats i believe.

oh and the rims are different too.
and 2.2/2.3's come in stick.

 

wait up 2.2/2.3 Premium dont have heated seats?

 

so the 3.0 is faster then the 2.2, ight thanx

 

nope!

 

its the other way around ?

 

Dude, think for a sec...(not trying to sound mean). Perhaps some 2.2/2.3 cls are faster than 3.0 but that because of mods. I certainly hope Acura isn't so stupid they make the larger engine slower. Yes you lose stick, but a car with an auto will race just as well as a car with stick, just gotta know what your doin.

 

Stock for stock; mod for mod, I've never had a 2.2/2.3 beat me! :P

 

when i said "nope" I was referring to the question about the 2.2/2.3's having heated seats.

 

 

I feel the 3.0 is alot more luxurious and classy since it actually has some power. The 2.2/2.3 are just a upgraded version of an accord with more status. Some people like ohh wow u got CL throw some 20" spinners on there...Soo dumb lol

 

I agree...They need to stop trying to make the CL into a hip hop culture car. Its just ghey.

 

dude how is it any more luxurious??? And did you forget they make v6 accords with the same engine as the 3.0?

They are both upgraded versions of the accord!! OH well, at least they ARE nice than accords. (accords of the same year at least)

BTW- They stopped making CL's now because they made the new accord so nice that it was almost the same car as the Cl-S

 

well yeah. . . not alot of us are bottle fed. cheater juice .... j\k

 

I wonder how much it will cost to get a stick installed in a 3.0 , thad be sweet ...and expnsive...

 

 

:shakehd:

 

 

tranny dont even matter... 1/2 the idiots with stick cant even drive it right soo auto will win ahahha

 

r0dxx is right. Tranny don't matter, not only because most people can't drive a stick as well as a computer can, but an auto tranny is just more complex, not slower. You'll wear your brakes out more with an auto since you cant just pop into neutral with a quick step, but aside from that, they run pretty much the same.

 

who told you that lie? not all tranny's are set up that way. it all depends on the gear ratios. personally i like my stick alot better. for example i was climbing a hill, in a manual i can downshift and have more power getting up there. if me and a auto 2.2 raced, it wouldn't even be fair. shift when you want.

 

Yes it does depend on several factors such as gear ratio and shift points on the auto, but an automatic tranny isn't just inherantly slower like most people think.

 

Autos lose more HP to the ground.

 

i dont get the comment about the 3.0 being more luxurious? they are basically the same exact thing when it comes to interior except for heated seats!

 

Not if you have a good torque converter.

 

u still loose horsepower to the ground

 

Um, have you ever driven a auto? THat was the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted by someone that I thought had a clue. Auto's down shift just fine....

 

autos lose HP
and can't squeal the tires from 1st to 2nd.....but i sure can

 

Actually that's not true. I squealed my tires all the time when going from first to second!!!!! But I got what I deserved...had to rebuild the tranny!!!

 

i dunno guys i'd prefer that six speed manual over my auto any day!

 

the question is have you ever driven a manual? please, if a auto is faster, then why don't all the racers use it? the down shift on the auto is alot slower than if i would down shift. it's almost as if the computer has to think about what your doing. then it says, "fine, if you want me to. . . . okay" then finally it downshifts. it's really really annoying when your flooring it and it takes about a second for the downshift to happen.

 

Stock = teh sux.

 

True, you get more control with a manual, as opposed to the stick, but you can down shift a manual too....

Any you are right, the manual is the choice for racers, due tot he control. I have driven manuals, raced them even, and yes they do provide more control, torque.

My point is that an auto downshifts.

 

Actually, most true race cars have auto cause its faster on the track and you can't fuck up. **I'm strictly talking about straight line 1/4 mile racing**

E.G.
TH400 upgrade.

 

Once you reach a certain amount of horsepower it becomes damn near impossible to keep shiting accuratly and faster than an automatic tranny can. Though cars with rediculous hp (top fuel and whatnot) would use manual just because a planetary gearset would blow up with 7000 hp running through it. Manuals are far more simple and stable.

 

my bad let me revise what i said then. . . . a manual downshifts faster than a auto, therefore getting you up with hill faster

 

guys, your arguments have come down to one line battles....