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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Short Ram intake.

So i decided i want to go ahead and buy and short ram intake, but i cant find any that fit my car(1997 2.2 cl).

I read on here somewhere that the accord is identical to my car, but what year accord is the the same? Will the intakes for the accords fit on my Cl?

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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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i bought an ebay sri for my 2.2, works good too.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Thnx AznX TL. Ex Dx Lx Se, or does it matter?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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i dont think it matters what kind for the accord, but if it does than EX because they were the only one to have vtec.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Ya that one looks good, do those filters need to be replaced with a K&N or something?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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people say they "should" replace it for max. hp.........but the filters are like $80 and you're probably gonna squeeze like 1hp out of it i just left mine with the filter it came with.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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heres what mine looked like after install
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-A...QQcmdZViewItem

If I got the coldair intake would I need one of those peices to protect it from water.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Looks good. Was it easy to install? How long did it take.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cluser
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-A...QQcmdZViewItem

If I got the coldair intake would I need one of those peices to protect it from water.
fyi that one is a sri.
but most people dont worry too much about water unless its flooded water to the intake.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Looks good. Was it easy to install? How long did it take.
it would have been easy if the bolts werent rusted......took me about 45mins.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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this will help out alot https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=171817&page=1
i skipped step 7 because i got a sri
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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yea, I forgot to skip step 7, what a PITA. By the way, what is the thing in part 2? It doesnt seem like it does anything but just sit there.
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SRI is good and easy to do, and also to maintain, and there are no worries of water, even if it splashes up theres the battery to block for it................ as for CAI its a good upgrade for the I4s, and id recomend an AEM Dryflow, its a 'rechargable' filter, and its better than K&N since theres no oil to worry about, with the oil, if it gets splashed, the oil runs and is then useless for filtering, the dryflow wont have that problem.... sure it'll get soggy and what not, but it wont break from my experiences (on brother's Celica)......... I will say this though, an AEM SRI really made my CL scream in VTEC
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179727
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SRI is good and easy to do, and also to maintain, and there are no worries of water, even if it splashes up theres the battery to block for it................ as for CAI its a good upgrade for the I4s, and id recomend an AEM Dryflow, its a 'rechargable' filter, and its better than K&N since theres no oil to worry about, with the oil, if it gets splashed, the oil runs and is then useless for filtering, the dryflow wont have that problem.... sure it'll get soggy and what not, but it wont break from my experiences (on brother's Celica)......... I will say this though, an AEM SRI really made my CL scream in VTEC
what motor is in your cl?
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Get the cold air, and yes taking the air box out is a pita
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Originally Posted by Cluser
So i decided i want to go ahead and buy and short ram intake, but i cant find any that fit my car(1997 2.2 cl).

I read on here somewhere that the accord is identical to my car, but what year accord is the the same? Will the intakes for the accords fit on my Cl?

Thanx,
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You can find the answers here as well
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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ya thanx for your help.....

Thanx everyone else for helping me.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by G22_Powered_YA1
I will say this though, an AEM SRI really made my CL scream in VTEC
lol all intakes do that on a vtec engine.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Whats the differences between............

Short ram intake

Cold air intake
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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umm i think its cold air=low end power and sri=high end power, it could be the other way around.
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Originally Posted by spencer_homer
what motor is in your cl?

that was....... and still is, on the F22B1.......... until I get the cash to put the new H22 head in place


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lol all intakes do that on a vtec engine.
no, man I mean REAL loud......... best in a tunnel/overpass or WOT past a semi in VTEC ........... i searched and couldnt find another CL or 5th Gen EX Accord that could do it that loud on an AEM SRI..... I swear to this day I think I missed something on the install............. maybe.... but since the headers went in, it was drowned out by the engine....... again
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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i have a ebay sri, mine screams at vtec........
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Originally Posted by Cluser
Whats the differences between............

Short ram intake

Cold air intake
I know theres a small amount of torque loss with a CAI, so id assume its for high end power...... while an SRI maintains low end torque and adds a small bit to high end power since it does offer increased flow
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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hows this look i just put it in

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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I will say this though, an AEM SRI really made my CL scream in VTEC
Im not so sure about scream, it may have made it actually noticeable and that VTEC was real on a single cam motor. Wanna hear scream, get a V2 or 2 cams
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Ohh and get a K&N or AEM dry filter, they are only 50 or less, and worth it.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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that cone filter is actually a K&n one
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Well thats just an FYI for everyone who uses those cheap ebay ones...
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rice_pock3t_rock3t
that cone filter is actually a K&n one
fyi yours isnt a k&n filter, i can see the metal strip on the filter showing its a ebay one.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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i bought it on amazon though hmm.. i do have the ebay one though
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Im not so sure about scream, it may have made it actually noticeable and that VTEC was real on a single cam motor. Wanna hear scream, get a V2 or 2 cams


http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=MOV00269.flv

I dunno about you but mine is plenty loud enough for me
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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v2 is pretty quiet to me, my cousin has one on his rsx and it seems that the thick pipe kinda blocks off alot of the sound that a hollow pipe would make. because my intake is like ear piercing loud.............his you can kinda hear it.
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Originally Posted by Cluser
Whats the differences between............

Short ram intake

Cold air intake
I was had the same question and i asked around and the cold air intake does give you more horse power but under five. However it does cool your engine more. I asked quite a few tuners in my area and some mechanics and it seems to be the same answer i'm getting. the Cold air is highly reccomended if you are thinking about turboing ur car since the turbo does need to be cooled and the cold air is good at that. But if your not planning to turbo then shor ram should do the job, it sounds good and the amount of horsepower you would of gotten from the cold air is not really worth the money.

Another thing about cold air is that the the piping has to come out on the bottom of the car so when it rains you have to be extrmely careful since if water gets into that then ur rish flooding your engine, the only solution is to buy a bypass valve to protect your engine, which again to me is too much money for the horsepower i would be getting from cai.
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^^^^the air intake isnt for cooling purposes, colder inlet temps just result in denser air for a greater fuel/air mixture being forced in........ and with more combustive material to detonate and burn off a cylinder will onlt get hotter....... turbos do want colder air, yes, but thats achieved by means of an intercooler...... yes you can net beter results by routing the turbo piping intake to a colder area... but most dont care... and besides that I think a turbos piping would re-route everything so a existing CAI wouldnt work anyways (Im pretty sure, but dont quote me on that).......... thats why I like Blowers, constant boost and doesnt depend on outside conditions as much as a turbo

if were talking about engine cooling we get into things like hood scoops and what not to force cool outside air directly onto the motor, like my Brothers old 7th gen Celica, its hood scoop took outside air and poured it onto the exhaust manifold...... if you want a cooler engine you can go buy some of that Royal Purple coolant additive, and it does work, I use it in mine. its like 5 bucks a bottle and itll do our car like 5 or 6 times over, atleast

SRI and CAIs all net very little gains for a difference to really be judged by that alone....... it is true though that a CAI will lower low-end torque slightly from what ive seen in other cars.. and really if you think about it, the air wont be that much colder in the end, because the piping passes into the engine bay, the battery, and all that wonderful stuff, metal will resist heat to a point, but it still lets quite a bit in

I will always vote Short ram, its safer (WATER), easier to access for filter cleanings and what not, and SRIs are much cheaper
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The three cars i have heard with V2's are all louder than when they had regular intakes. If i was going all motor id buy one bbut boost seems to be more fun to me
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I was had the same question and i asked around and the cold air intake does give you more horse power but under five.
the Cold air is highly reccomended if you are thinking about turboing ur car since the turbo does need to be cooled and the cold air is good at that.
difference between cai and sri is that cai gives you more hp in high revs and sri gives you more power in lower rpms or vice versa, i forget.
V2 is suppose to give you the best of both worlds.

and cai doesnt affect turbo since the turbo takes in its own air.
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^^^^the air intake isnt for cooling purposes, colder inlet temps just result in denser air for a greater fuel/air mixture being forced in........ and with more combustive material to detonate and burn off a cylinder will onlt get hotter....... turbos do want colder air, yes, but thats achieved by means of an intercooler...... yes you can net beter results by routing the turbo piping intake to a colder area... but most dont care... and besides that I think a turbos piping would re-route everything so a existing CAI wouldnt work anyways (Im pretty sure, but dont quote me on that).......... thats why I like Blowers, constant boost and doesnt depend on outside conditions as much as a turbo

if were talking about engine cooling we get into things like hood scoops and what not to force cool outside air directly onto the motor, like my Brothers old 7th gen Celica, its hood scoop took outside air and poured it onto the exhaust manifold...... if you want a cooler engine you can go buy some of that Royal Purple coolant additive, and it does work, I use it in mine. its like 5 bucks a bottle and itll do our car like 5 or 6 times over, atleast

SRI and CAIs all net very little gains for a difference to really be judged by that alone....... it is true though that a CAI will lower low-end torque slightly from what ive seen in other cars.. and really if you think about it, the air wont be that much colder in the end, because the piping passes into the engine bay, the battery, and all that wonderful stuff, metal will resist heat to a point, but it still lets quite a bit in

I will always vote Short ram, its safer (WATER), easier to access for filter cleanings and what not, and SRIs are much cheaper



Thanks, i guess the dude that explained that to me was an idiot, he seemed like a reliable souce, he had a pretty sick integra with a gs-r and was working on a turbo. Anyway i live and i learn right . and thanks for the royal purple coolant. i blew a head gasket on my cl, i'm getting an engine swap, i'm going to be carrying that around.

Can i ask your opnion, approximatly how much hp do headers in general ad if any? if so what brand do you reccomend for our cars? (97 cl 2.2)
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well I never got a good dyno pass after the header got installed, and I dont feel like it after my magic 1 second 1/4 mi. dissapearing act....... dont ask, please, long story short I installed some pulleys and my 1/4 mile shrunk by about a whole second.... some of my people think the impact that killed the OE crank pulley caused a biger loss and the new one served to pull it back up a bit (step back 2 seconds and get back 1, of sorts).. either way a header will probably net around I wanna say 5-10HP, all assuming it has a good catback to back it all up(no pun intended)... im personally using an el cheapo header off eBay for the Accord... works nicely with no problems... whichever path you go you gotta remember that you HAVE TO pick the kit for the 97 Accord EX, because there is a difference between the EX motor and the DX/LX motors

and im sorry to say that most kids with Civics and Integras arent TYPICALLY that inteligent, they go by trends and all that crap out there.... besides a real Integra driver doesnt settle for a mere GS-R swap they go for the full ITR while theyre at it
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