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Old 07-17-2006, 12:30 PM
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question on RPM of our cl

just curious guys, for the members on here who have the first gen cl, 2.2/ 2.3 auto, at freeway speed at like 65-70mph, where is your rpm at? mine is at approx. 3000, and to me, it seems kinda high...is that why it consumes gas so much? my mom's camry hits around approx 2300-2500 at 65mph....

do we even have overdrive on our cars??......rpm is just so damn high.. thanks
Old 07-17-2006, 01:50 PM
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blame our trannies
i know what you mean
Old 07-17-2006, 03:21 PM
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but thats normal though? .........
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Originally Posted by asianmoomoo
but thats normal though? .........
If normal meaning what happens to most, yes it's normal. When I get on the freeway doing 75 the RPM is up at around 3500 which is kinda high.

On the topic of RPMs, next time your driving in the city pay close attention to your RPM guage. For some reason, mine doesn't "glide" smoothly, it kind of jumps up in increments. Never noticed a car doing this before, sorry for topic hijack.
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Originally Posted by kraftey
If normal meaning what happens to most, yes it's normal. When I get on the freeway doing 75 the RPM is up at around 3500 which is kinda high.

On the topic of RPMs, next time your driving in the city pay close attention to your RPM guage. For some reason, mine doesn't "glide" smoothly, it kind of jumps up in increments. Never noticed a car doing this before, sorry for topic hijack.

Do you have aftermarket gauges?
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On my 3.0 auto, I'm under 3K at 79mph...don't the 2.Xs have the same gear ratios? Maybe your gauges are effed.

However, you cannot go on engine RPMs alone to compare between different cars. You have to take the final drive ratio into account. The S2000 cruises at almost 4K on the highway...
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Originally Posted by blueCL
Do you have aftermarket gauges?
Nope, even then... how would that effect the needle?

Originally Posted by proaudio22
On my 3.0 auto, I'm under 3K at 79mph...don't the 2.Xs have the same gear ratios? Maybe your gauges are effed.

However, you cannot go on engine RPMs alone to compare between different cars. You have to take the final drive ratio into account. The S2000 cruises at almost 4K on the highway...
All I know is that in the manual it says that the 3.0 definitely goes faster in each gear. I don't know much about gearing but in a V6 you can push on the gas and the RPMs won't really go up, but the speed will. In the I4 the tachometer and the speedometer go up together :P
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kraftey..i've noticed that increment jumping as well, both on local and freeway...its pretty weird, most of the other cars that ive driven goes smoothly....its kinda jumps for our cl...is this normal ppl? anyone know?

but yeah, i cant even step it up to 80 cuz my car eats so much gas...i usually try to drive it at 65mph w/ cruise control...just under 3k rpm...
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My friend has a 2000 Accord 2.3 auto - he gets like 32mpg on the highway going 80mph at the same rpm that my car does it at. Isn't the engine/transmission the same in that car?
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i dont think so.....arent the l4 2.x with auto the same tranny and engine as the 94-97 accords?
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Originally Posted by asianmoomoo
i dont think so.....arent the l4 2.x with auto the same tranny and engine as the 94-97 accords?
I thought the 2.2 and tranny were from the 94-97 and the 2.3 and tranny were from the 98+. Just like the 97 3.0 is slightly different from the 98-99 3.0 as the 98s matched the 98+ Accords.
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The 1997-98 2.2CL share the same engine & tranny as that of the 1994-97 4-cyl. cars.

The 1999 2.3CL shares the same engine & tranny as the 1999+ 4-cyl. Accords.
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ohh so does that mean the 1999 2.3cl auto are shit as well? cuz i know there are problems with the auto tranny on the 99-00 accords , 4 cylinders.
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sucks brothas. I thought 4th was an overdrive in the auto's though
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For those curious about gear and final ratio

3.0 J30A1 - Auto B6VA
2.534 1st
1.502 2nd
0.947 3rd
0.608 4th
1.846 Reverse
4.200 Final

2.3 F23A1 - Manual S2A8
3.285 1st
1.807 2nd
1.193 3rd
0.903 4th
0.685 5th
3.000 Reverse
4.062 Final

2.3 F23A1 - Auto B6VA
2.528 1st
1.427 2nd
0.931 3rd
0.620 4th
1.863 Reverse
4.466 Final
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i think our cl auto should have overdrive??
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Originally Posted by kraftey
If normal meaning what happens to most, yes it's normal. When I get on the freeway doing 75 the RPM is up at around 3500 which is kinda high.

On the topic of RPMs, next time your driving in the city pay close attention to your RPM guage. For some reason, mine doesn't "glide" smoothly, it kind of jumps up in increments. Never noticed a car doing this before, sorry for topic hijack.
mine does that too. buh i hav a 2.2 auto. it started doing that after i put in the intake. it only does it when my foots off the petal though
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Originally Posted by asianmoomoo
just curious guys, for the members on here who have the first gen cl, 2.2/ 2.3 auto, at freeway speed at like 65-70mph, where is your rpm at? mine is at approx. 3000, and to me, it seems kinda high...is that why it consumes gas so much? my mom's camry hits around approx 2300-2500 at 65mph....
lol thats a lie! ur in california. people drive like 90- 100 on the freeway. lol i was on the 22 doing 75 and a cop flies by me. (55 mph speed limit for the people that don't know)
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Originally Posted by asianspec
lol thats a lie! ur in california. people drive like 90- 100 on the freeway. lol i was on the 22 doing 75 and a cop flies by me. (55 mph speed limit for the people that don't know)
it depends where your at. some sections there like anal chp officers. like on 101 by san mateo. i always see some dude get pulled over by chp.
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my rpm jumps variously...doesnt happen all the time. i have stock gauges, 2.2 auto.

we have over drive right guys? still, 3000 rpm at 65 is so damn high..im poor on gas
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im at about 2.3k when cruising doing 45
overdrive is D4, to turn off over drive then shift into D3 but you also only have 3 gears and i think D3 tops out about 112mph
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