Preview of the 2.3 CL-T
#42
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Despite rain, traffic, and police, I made it to the tuner. My downpipe is now connected to my exhaust. They found my idle air control valve is bad and there is also some sort of problem with my distributor. They said they are going to try and tune it to 5 psi today, half of what I was hoping. Once I get the other stuff taken care of, there's still hope for 10, but the other problems sounded expensive so I have to take care of them first. It took so long I dont have a ride back there tonight so I wont know what i put down at 5 psi until tomorrow. Im a little disappointed with 5 pounds and the other problems, we'll see what happens.
#47
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sorry to hear about your friends car, that would have killed me.
Stock whp is probably in the 130's, I doubt I'll break 200 on 5psi, especially since I told them to keep it on the safe side since its the only ride I have. I would guess 185 using the 10hp per pound of boost estimate, even though that doesnt take compression ratio into account.
Stock whp is probably in the 130's, I doubt I'll break 200 on 5psi, especially since I told them to keep it on the safe side since its the only ride I have. I would guess 185 using the 10hp per pound of boost estimate, even though that doesnt take compression ratio into account.
#48
05' 350z 6spd.
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos Ca.
Age: 39
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
damn you need more boost then It's just doean't seem like it's worth the money and risk factor for all that shit if you're only making that much power. Go for lke 10psi
#50
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by SooDARK
damn you need more boost then It's just doean't seem like it's worth the money and risk factor for all that shit if you're only making that much power. Go for lke 10psi
damn you need more boost then It's just doean't seem like it's worth the money and risk factor for all that shit if you're only making that much power. Go for lke 10psi
Originally posted by
what exactly do you have on your motor?
what exactly do you have on your motor?
-Powdercoated intercooler piping and valve cover
-Tanabe Hyper Medallion catback (modified)
-FMAX thermo coated log manifold
-FMAX downpipe custom fitted to catback
-High flow catalytic converter
-Turbonetics T3/T4 turbocharger
-TiAL 38mm wastegate
-Spearco front mount intercooler
-R/C 550cc saturated injectors
-AEM 1:1 fuel pressure regulator
-Walbro 255lph fuel pump
-Crane HI-6S ignition w/ LX91 coil
-Crane 11mm ignition wires
-Custom distributor cap
-GReddy Type S blow off valve
-Clutchmasters 8lb flywheel
-ACT organic street disc w/ extreme pressure plate
-Hondata S200B
#51
The movement has started
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hawaii
Age: 44
Posts: 3,645
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've seen f22's with headwork running 12psi daily. The f22 is a fast motor if done rite. IMO I would turbo and build the f22 before I swapped a h22. The cost is still less.
#52
Moderator Alumnus
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Rockville, MD
Age: 41
Posts: 5,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by xrunner86x
10psi is the goal, guess you didnt see the whole thread.
Since we established that its stock internally, I dont know exactly what youre looking for, but heres basically all of it:
-ACT organic street disc w/ extreme pressure plate
-Hondata S200B
10psi is the goal, guess you didnt see the whole thread.
Since we established that its stock internally, I dont know exactly what youre looking for, but heres basically all of it:
-ACT organic street disc w/ extreme pressure plate
-Hondata S200B
#54
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by haiduc
How's that clutch and flywheel working for you? I'm happy you installed them.
How's that clutch and flywheel working for you? I'm happy you installed them.
Originally posted by h22turboCL
for the hodata, did you have to buy a new wiring harness? just a thought.
for the hodata, did you have to buy a new wiring harness? just a thought.
#57
05' 350z 6spd.
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos Ca.
Age: 39
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by xrunner86x
10psi is the goal, guess you didnt see the whole thread.
10psi is the goal, guess you didnt see the whole thread.
hopefully you'll get some decent numbers with that amount of boost.
#58
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by h22turboCL
thats what i thought. how much did the hondata set up cost you?
thats what i thought. how much did the hondata set up cost you?
Originally posted by baka_t
With the standalone, you should be able to produce nice boost with your motor.
With the standalone, you should be able to produce nice boost with your motor.
Originally posted by SooDARK
i saw it, just i was just agreeing with you that you need 10 psi hopefully you'll get some decent numbers with that amount of boost.
i saw it, just i was just agreeing with you that you need 10 psi hopefully you'll get some decent numbers with that amount of boost.
#59
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Blah. Had to pick it up to present it at school. This whole thing was my senior project. They couldnt adjust the timing because they said my distributor was not the one shown in the CL manual, and they also could not read the timing through my 11mm wires. So they did a very conservative tune, left the timing alone, and i made a whopping 160hp and 182lb/ft of torque on 5psi. Once we get the idle air control valve rewired for OBDI and they figure out my distributor, they'll adjust the timing and tune it for more boost.
#60
AWD Torque Monster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NJ
Age: 42
Posts: 4,525
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by xrunner86x
and i made a whopping 160hp and 182lb/ft of torque on 5psi. Once we get the idle air control valve rewired for OBDI and they figure out my distributor, they'll adjust the timing and tune it for more boost.
and i made a whopping 160hp and 182lb/ft of torque on 5psi. Once we get the idle air control valve rewired for OBDI and they figure out my distributor, they'll adjust the timing and tune it for more boost.
#61
05' 350z 6spd.
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos Ca.
Age: 39
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by xrunner86x
i made a whopping 160hp and 182lb/ft of torque on 5psi.
i made a whopping 160hp and 182lb/ft of torque on 5psi.
Does it at least feel a bit faster? The torque actually isn't too bad for 5 psi.
#63
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I discovered its actually only hitting 4psi watching the gauge, even though they said they tuned it for 5. The boost control knob was not turned enough to set the boost above the wastegate, so those numbers are from a 4.3 psi spring. Its faster, and it spools pretty low so the dump tube is open through over half the rpm band. There are some "hiccups" in the tune too in places unless I go WOT. Niedejb had a 2.2, so he could run more boost on his compression ratio, but I should at LEAST break 200hp. I might have to run it how it is for a while because I think that IACV is going to be at least 200 redone and they said it would need about another hour on the dyno.
#64
A-CL Totaled Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ellicott City, Maryland
Age: 38
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ok so I talked to the owner of the shop and now I understand whats going on. The distributor on the car is non-adjustable. They can work around this with the hondata setting static timing at idle. However, the idle air control valve needs to be replaced/rewired with an OBDI IACV to get the car to idle. I only need about another hour on the dyno once they redo the valve.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gavriil
Car Talk
36
01-13-2003 06:00 PM