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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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this is the craziest thing I have ever heard in my life!
evey post he made in this whole thread is crazy..
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ShavedH22CL
def never turbo a Dohc Vtec after what ive seen from 2 of my friends and also what i have read about that. impossiable to tune and they never work correct. i have a friend with a GSR Boosted and the other has a civic with a B16 type R motor boosted the b16 is blown up caues he was running 35 pounds of boost but he did have 35lb sleeves and the other always has air fuel poblems.

you are one misinformed person. There are many daily driven boosted dohc vtec engines out there. If the car isnt tuned right, of course it will "blow up." I hope your friend had a built engine at least to compensate for the 35lbs of boost..anyways gl on your project bud
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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this thread is classic.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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very funny.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
this thread is classic.
lol.........exactly, why bother....
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 04:08 AM
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there is a cop on the board you know

and i am him. i used to work cerritos, ricers all over the place but there were a few nice evo's though
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 05:18 AM
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Have your P28 chipped to H22 . Rev at 9k. Any higher and you will require tuning or you will start bending valves like me. As far as conversion harness i'm not sure if you need obd 2 a or b. Make sure you modify your existing harness. Your oil pressure switch needs a line from its port (left side engine by v-tech selenoid) to the appropriate pin on ecu. As far as cops taking your car, i've heard of it and i'o afraid myself. safest thing to do in register your H series engine at your local DMV.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jus_cl
there is a cop on the board you know

and i am him. i used to work cerritos, ricers all over the place but there were a few nice evo's though
ok?? ...and...........
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ShavedH22CL
def never turbo a Dohc Vtec after what ive seen from 2 of my friends and also what i have read about that. impossiable to tune and they never work correct. i have a friend with a GSR Boosted and the other has a civic with a B16 type R motor boosted the b16 is blown up caues he was running 35 pounds of boost but he did have 35lb sleeves and the other always has air fuel poblems.
you and your friends are retarded....he should have got the 45lb sleeves to be safe, DUH haha impossible to tune?, how about a STOCK h22-t neptune'd with 440whp lasting 6+ months and numerous 10 sec passes, or the dime-a-dozen stock b18's with 300+whp running YEARS (yes, years) with no problems...and on what turbo was your friend running 35psi on, had to have been that monsterous t25 ive been hearing about

p.s. STOCK B18 sc34, neptune ~300whp 145k miles and still going strong
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
you and your friends are retarded....he should have got the 45lb sleeves to be safe, DUH haha impossible to tune?, how about a STOCK h22-t neptune'd with 440whp lasting 6+ months (according to the tuner of the car this thing was ragged to hell and back on a daily bases) and numerous 10 sec passes, or the dime-a-dozen stock b18's with 300+whp running YEARS (yes, years) with no problems...and on what turbo was your friend running 35psi on, had to have been that monsterous t25 ive been hearing about

p.s. STOCK B18 sc34, neptune ~300whp 145k miles and still going strong
p.p.s. i feel even more retarded for responding
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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You're not going to be able to make the JR blower work in the CL with the H22. Some of the accord guys tried it with no luck. Too little space between the manifold and the firewall.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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you want to rev 9k on a stock head? you might as well throw in a type-r carbon fiber L.E.D titanium fossil fuel 1,000,000 octane so you can rev 28k
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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does a stock h22 even make power past 7800-8000rpm, why rev to 9k if youre dropping in power. you might need some head work and cams to flow enough air that high.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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i doubt you'll make power on a stock h @ 9k
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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how many times do you get to chip your ecu considering it isn't cheap. chipping that primitive brain at 9k for now isn't bad and as you modify you will see the results. when it's time for major mods you can go with something like AEM management unit for major tuning
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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AEM ems is good if you would like to begin or learn to tune yourself but, when you can get crome or neptune for next to nothing (~1/10 the cost of the aem ems) why bother. just needs to be chipped once, then get it retuned as you add more. it is very beneficial even if you have minor bolt ons.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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i have heard of a brand Mega Sqirt which has been recommended excellent and a full set up would run about 200. its a ecu which you build and add on piece by piece.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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the only reason why i'd convert to an obd 1 is if I were going with a hondata unit.

if you're looking at tuning availibility- which ='s gains, an e-manage will out perform a chipped p28 ecu any day.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
the only reason why i'd convert to an obd 1 is if I were going with a hondata unit.

if you're looking at tuning availibility- which ='s gains, an e-manage will out perform a chipped p28 ecu any day.
compared to what? crome and neptune have more features and i think would be more beneficial then a piggyback (emanage)? i love launching with the 2-step, people looking at you like youre crazy for hitting the rev-limiter (turbo spooled and launching at 4500)
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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the only things i were comparing are the emanage and a p28. read before you comment.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ShavedH22CL
def never turbo a Dohc Vtec after what ive seen from 2 of my friends and also what i have read about that. impossiable to tune and they never work correct. i have a friend with a GSR Boosted and the other has a civic with a B16 type R motor boosted the b16 is blown up caues he was running 35 pounds of boost but he did have 35lb sleeves and the other always has air fuel poblems.

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Impossible to tune? Don't work correct? I think your friends definately had tuning error

35lbs of boost? I'm gonna call a big on that one
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Impossible to tune? Don't work correct? I think your friends definately had tuning error

35lbs of boost? I'm gonna call a big on that one
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
the only things i were comparing are the emanage and a p28. read before you comment.

so was i...crome or neptune using a p28 ecu. its far more benficial then a piggyback, such as the emanage, as i stated.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
35lbs of boost? I'm gonna call a big on that one
I ran 94lbs of booost on my 94 corolla station wagon.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Impossible to tune? Don't work correct? I think your friends definately had tuning error

35lbs of boost? I'm gonna call a big on that one
you must have not seen the 35lb sleeves he had in that thing, but you know, air and fuel can cause alot of problems even with those
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
you must have not seen the 35lb sleeves he had in that thing, but you know, air and fuel can cause alot of problems even with those

yea, cause air and fuel are impossible to tune right
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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why is crome or neptune using a p28 ecu more benficial then a piggyback??
is it just cheaper or something else?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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http://www.hrtuning.com/index.php?page=neptunefeatures

allows you to fully tune just about every aspect of the motor, and its cheaper. emanage along with other piggybacks have their limits on what they can do.

crome, neptune, uberdata, hondata, are all good programs to use. crome or neptune would be my choices out of those. neptune is the one i chose and its awesome.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
so was i...crome or neptune using a p28 ecu? its far more benficial then a piggyback, such as the emanage, as i stated.
the fuck should i know if he was wondering about chipping his p28 with a shitty "mugen/skunk2/spoon" chip on ebay. no shit neptune will have more tuning adjustibility and options, as opposed to an e-manage w/ their options. why bother with a stand-alone on a stock motor with minor bolt on's? the only way a stand-alone would be benificial is if you had a built or force inducted motor and wanted to seek it's maximum potential. the e-manage still serves it's purpose. it's actually a great "piggyback" fuel computer for minor - mildly built/force inducted applications.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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haha you sound angry, dont get your panties in a bunch. emanage is 300-500 depending on where you get it plus another 100-300+ for tuning, its fine if thats what you want to spend your money on. uberdata, neptune or crome cost $300-$400 total, and thats after all is said and done, tuned motor ready to drive/race. you dont need a fully built motor to take advantage of the program. ie: h22 on stock ecu w/ i/h/e dynos 160-170whp, on any of those programs its 185+, being very conservative.
choosing e-manage over any of those programs, to me, is like choosing a vafc over an aem ems unit that you can get for 100 bucks...its up to you. but calm down before you have an aneurysm.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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who said i was angry? all im saying is either or will do the job depending on your application; instead of being biased and saying things you read off of honda-tech. choosing between a piggyback computer and a stand-alone is totally up to the driver and his/her preferences. try to open your mind without acting like a wise ass.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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people chill put your guns down
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
who said i was angry? all im saying is either or will do the job depending on your application; instead of being biased and saying things you read off of honda-tech. choosing between a piggyback computer and a stand-alone is totally up to the driver and his/her preferences. try to open your mind without acting like a wise ass.
im far from being a wise ass, if you can read you were the one who got all hostile when i mentioned you didnt know what you were talking about when using a p28 ecu with a chipped program. and im not being biased or reading off honda-tech, its from experience (if your suggesting i dont really know what im talking about or dont do any work on my car, i dont know what the point of that was??). we used neptune on our project car (brothers and i ) 282whp 9.5 psi completely stock b18b tuned by Jason Herrera. and no thats not the final number for hp, it should be double by winter/spring. anyways im trying to spread some information on this site and let some know that theres more out there then just an apexi afc or greddy emanage or just piggybacks to run along with their bolt ons, since thats all thats available for fseries motors . sorry you got offended homes. asalamalakim
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