Oppinions On Venom 400
02-20-2002, 02:48 PM
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Oppinions On Venom 400
To all you people with one
how do you like it?
does it make that much more power?
is it worth the $ or is my $ beter spent on somehtin else?
I have a 2.2 auto with some mods on it, what do yall think?
Ill order it tomorrow if its worth it. THANKS
how do you like it?
does it make that much more power?
is it worth the $ or is my $ beter spent on somehtin else?
I have a 2.2 auto with some mods on it, what do yall think?
Ill order it tomorrow if its worth it. THANKS
02-20-2002, 04:29 PM
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Re: Oppinions On Venom 400
Originally posted by Kiljaedoen
To all you people with one
how do you like it?
does it make that much more power?
is it worth the $ or is my $ beter spent on somehtin else?
I have a 2.2 auto with some mods on it, what do yall think?
Ill order it tomorrow if its worth it. THANKS
To all you people with one
how do you like it?
does it make that much more power?
is it worth the $ or is my $ beter spent on somehtin else?
I have a 2.2 auto with some mods on it, what do yall think?
Ill order it tomorrow if its worth it. THANKS
Mine should be in by friday...Not sure when I'll be able to install, but I'll let ya know what I think.
02-20-2002, 09:18 PM
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I love mine! 
I think it's worth the money! I paid $260.00 and I'm getting around 13 HP to the wheels (not bad for $20 per HP).
I've heard pros and cons from other folks, but I'm sold on it! No regrets, here!
I think it's worth the money! I paid $260.00 and I'm getting around 13 HP to the wheels (not bad for $20 per HP).
I've heard pros and cons from other folks, but I'm sold on it! No regrets, here!
02-20-2002, 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Kiljaedoen
Where is the best place to order one from?
Where is the best place to order one from?
I got mine off of eBay last year (from customrim.com); hence the $260.00 price that I paid.
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02-20-2002, 10:57 PM
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im sure if u do a search on venom 400 u see all the things i said about it. one thing i will say again is that its no god fro daily driving if u ask me. mine is of 99% of the time. if u dont have other mods buy them first cuz then ull get alot more out of the venom. it sucked when my car was stock. but after i/h/e/p it puls hard now. and yes my slowmatic can chirp them into 2nd
02-21-2002, 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by Got Rice?
How many of you with Venom 400s keep them on 24/7???
How many of you with Venom 400s keep them on 24/7???
02-21-2002, 09:18 AM
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i been looking at this thing for a while now ..... and so far all its been a kinda of contrevercy ............
All the Venom does is increase the amount of fuel being delivered at a given throttle position. Basically if you were to depress the gas pedal 25% the engine would respond to as if it was "say" 40%. Once you floor it (100% throttle) however it can only deliver 100% fuel. What this amounts to is a percieved gain in low end power especially on automatics. It does not add a single horsepower to your car...not one. The only thing the Venom is good at is wasting your gas and money.
All the Venom does is increase the amount of fuel being delivered at a given throttle position. Basically if you were to depress the gas pedal 25% the engine would respond to as if it was "say" 40%. Once you floor it (100% throttle) however it can only deliver 100% fuel. What this amounts to is a percieved gain in low end power especially on automatics. It does not add a single horsepower to your car...not one. The only thing the Venom is good at is wasting your gas and money.
02-21-2002, 09:26 AM
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lil add to my comment .............
some people say its awesome and some are selling it
so thats why i m not certain yet about it ............
if you go to Venom site they will tell you that is best thing ever created ( same thing you will hear when you go to site that sells them "twister intake manifold " things )
so i dont know ......................
some people say its awesome and some are selling it
so thats why i m not certain yet about it ............
if you go to Venom site they will tell you that is best thing ever created ( same thing you will hear when you go to site that sells them "twister intake manifold " things )
so i dont know ......................
02-21-2002, 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by GoldieAlek
It does not add a single horsepower to your car...not one. The only thing the Venom is good at is wasting your gas and money.
It does not add a single horsepower to your car...not one. The only thing the Venom is good at is wasting your gas and money.
My readings show an increase in horsepower (13-15 HP during 1/4 mile runs). With approximately 10-12 runs each (stock vs Venom--in the same car), I average about 13 HP increase measured with the GTech. Now I know folks will jump on how the GTech isn't accurate, but that why I did as many runs (20-24 total) to get an average.
1/4 mile times have definitely dropped (.5 to .6 seconds)! These were timed with a GTech and a Rolex Cosmograph Daytona [it wish the Rolex was mine
]There is NO doubt that the Venom increases power. I don't need any meters or dyno to prove this. All it takes is to be in the car, and floor it! There is a noticeable difference that you can feel.
I agree that once you hit 100% fuel delivery, that's it. But, the Venom allows you to achieve a higher fuel delivery rate much quicker than stock. Therefore, the Venom allows a shorter time peiod for the max fuel rate to be achieved. Within the 1/4 mile time frame, this means increased fuel/air in much shorter period of time. If you continue flooring it, eventually the Venom becomes moot (you achieve 100% fuel delivery).
Also, when passing (let's say from 70 mph to 100mp) you can do this quicker with the Venom compared to stock.
I'd like to hear more from people who have the Venom 400 on their car, and have done comparisons against their stock performance runs.
02-21-2002, 10:36 AM
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I'd like to hear more from people who have the Venom 400 on their car, and have done comparisons against their stock performance runs. [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah lets hear more opinions about it !
I DONT wanna bash anyone by me saying that it doesnt work ...... i wanna get one my self ! so before i do that i wanna make a best desigon! so as other people
yeah lets hear more opinions about it !
I DONT wanna bash anyone by me saying that it doesnt work ...... i wanna get one my self ! so before i do that i wanna make a best desigon! so as other people
02-21-2002, 01:49 PM
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listen for the last time i can floor the hell out of my car all day long and
1. it wont be as fast
2. it wont throw u into the seat as much
3. i cant chirp in 2nd
now when i turn the venom on
1. its defintiely faster
2. throws me in the seat more
3. chirps into 2nd
plain and simple
1. it wont be as fast
2. it wont throw u into the seat as much
3. i cant chirp in 2nd
now when i turn the venom on
1. its defintiely faster
2. throws me in the seat more
3. chirps into 2nd
plain and simple
02-22-2002, 10:27 AM
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I've had this discussion so many times!!! The venom IS worth the money, the venom DOES increase HP through midrange, and the venom DOES work! I've had mine for 2 years and it's on 24/7 (except when I get my inspections). Yeah maybe I'll pay an extra buck or two when I fill up but to me, if you can have a quick car all the time, what's stopping you? I paid about $290 for mine through NOPI and although the service through NOPI sucks, the venom is great. 
02-22-2002, 12:06 PM
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yo one reason i dont have it on all th e time is becuase sometimes it will kick in and out. especially on hills. it does have a comp inside that learns how u drive. so after having it on for like a year how does it work? even in th emanual it says if it looses power on the memory wire then ur car will drive irratically for a short time until the comp can relearn.
02-22-2002, 02:14 PM
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I just got off the phone with rmstoico and he said hes going to make some calls and try to beat the pice at customrim.com.
So if anyone else is goin to get one of these wait till monday and you might get it cheaper from him
And could someone of more understanding than i explain what the differences between the venom and the vfac are?
So if anyone else is goin to get one of these wait till monday and you might get it cheaper from him
And could someone of more understanding than i explain what the differences between the venom and the vfac are?
02-22-2002, 06:29 PM
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there is a reason of the amount of fuel and air cant go above 100% at WOT...it doesnt matter since the venom 400 is geared to give u power from the 1000-5000 rpm range...more lower end before u actually hit the vtec at WOT.
03-01-2002, 01:35 PM
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w00t! My Venom 400 just came in today. Looks different from the webpage picture though...and its slightly bigger than I thought. But whateva! Can't wait to install this thing.
Can't wait to install this thing.
03-01-2002, 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by AtlCl
Hey Got Rice, try to get that done by tommorow's meet, I want to check that thing out!
Hey Got Rice, try to get that done by tommorow's meet, I want to check that thing out!
I'm gonna install it over spring break with my buddies who are majoring in electrical engineering...I'll bring it with me tomorrow though...Mabey if I can find someone who knows/has already installed one of these before to help me, I can get it done over the weekend.
03-01-2002, 05:30 PM
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dood it takes like 30 minutes to install using perhaps a simple tool or two...and thats it...nothing hard about it at all, besides there are only four wires to hook up, two of which connect to the battery and the toher two, one to throttle body sensor and manifold sensor...thats it try it
03-01-2002, 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by chiggacl68
dood it takes like 30 minutes to install using perhaps a simple tool or two...and thats it...nothing hard about it at all, besides there are only four wires to hook up, two of which connect to the battery and the toher two, one to throttle body sensor and manifold sensor...thats it try it
dood it takes like 30 minutes to install using perhaps a simple tool or two...and thats it...nothing hard about it at all, besides there are only four wires to hook up, two of which connect to the battery and the toher two, one to throttle body sensor and manifold sensor...thats it try it
03-01-2002, 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Kiljaedoen
I just got off the phone with rmstoico and he said hes going to make some calls and try to beat the pice at customrim.com.
So if anyone else is goin to get one of these wait till monday and you might get it cheaper from him
And could someone of more understanding than i explain what the differences between the venom and the vfac are?
I just got off the phone with rmstoico and he said hes going to make some calls and try to beat the pice at customrim.com.
So if anyone else is goin to get one of these wait till monday and you might get it cheaper from him
And could someone of more understanding than i explain what the differences between the venom and the vfac are?
First of yes you can use the two toghter. The V-afc is able to adjust when vtec kicks in acceleration and when it turns off in deceleration. It also allows you to reprogram your fuel curve to whatever setting you like. It shows you digital gauges of your fuel curve and a bunch of other stuff. Its a little more complicated than that but I'm trying to give a simple answer. The venom is allready programed so it is not adjustable. The venom plays with your fuel curve aswell and allows fuel to be delivered faster in low a mid range range rpms.
03-01-2002, 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by HeavyP
Does anybody have 1/4 mi times to validate the performance increase of the venom?
Does anybody have 1/4 mi times to validate the performance increase of the venom?
03-01-2002, 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Got Rice?
Someone posted his 1/4 mile went down 0.5 seconds when the Venom was on.
Someone posted his 1/4 mile went down 0.5 seconds when the Venom was on.
03-01-2002, 09:28 PM
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i do know that the venom helps a good amount, not like forced induction power, but enough to feel more than enough of a difference. i always leave it on, for about three months or so i think around there, and one day i decided to drive without it on, its a noticeable difference without a doubt. besides its good to help ur low end.
03-02-2002, 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by chiggacl68
i do know that the venom helps a good amount, not like forced induction power, but enough to feel more than enough of a difference. i always leave it on, for about three months or so i think around there, and one day i decided to drive without it on, its a noticeable difference without a doubt. besides its good to help ur low end.
i do know that the venom helps a good amount, not like forced induction power, but enough to feel more than enough of a difference. i always leave it on, for about three months or so i think around there, and one day i decided to drive without it on, its a noticeable difference without a doubt. besides its good to help ur low end.
03-02-2002, 02:38 AM
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..venom 400 looks like a lame way out of learning to do something yourself heh.. and i won't comment on whoever said they won't install 4 wires.. buy yourself a V-AFC.. you can change shit instead of a box that magically fucks the shit up for you.. rent yourself an hour on a dyno.. and you'll get better performance out of a V-AFC any day of the week.. AND you can actually change the fuel curve when you change something on you car.. instead of relying on an automatic feature (if that exists in a venom4million) to do it.. just get a VAFC..
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Do either of these fuel mgmt systems void warranty? I bought a so-called "certified" CL with bumper-to-bumper 7/100,000. I'd hate to screw that up for a little extra juice.
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