ib_jimmy

i never said a h22 CL wouldnt beat a 3.0. Cocoa have stated that he have run his 3.0 with out the bottle agaist some member on here with h22 and held them, could be a worn motor. i would believe a well condition h22 CL would take the 3.0 due to a lighter motor and a 5speed. it would be a wopping and a half tho. my friend 03 prelude bearly pull out on me cuz he's able to shift to 2nd way before i can...but once up to speed i dont see him pulling out any farther at all.

732xghost

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03??, you must mean 01 or 02.

ib_jimmy

probably 02 ....i know it was 00 or 01

732xghost

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cheap...QQcmdZViewItem

Blenz

That H22 ebay head is located where I live, which is kindof strange. It seems like a good deal, but I think this mod would be a huge headache (no pun intended).

SupraManAG

dual runner, single runner
no difference when you hook them up.
The IAB selenoid that opens the secondary runner can be bypassed by connecting the vacuum post strait to the runner instead of on the selenoid. P13 without mods will open the secondary runner just fine.

SupraManAG

worth it but much easier to just swap the whole h22

732xghost

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which is something im debating to do, but if i wanted to buy a whole H22 i would have wait a while to do it, cuz i wouldnt have enough money for it.

teh CL

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frankenstein > full swap



but do what u like..

732xghost

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i just dont know what the fuck im gonna tell my dad when my car is gone for so long. i have a feeling i would get fucked over by a shop, just like what is happening to Cocoa. and plus i dont know what im gonna do if i have to bring it to a shop far away, like somewhere in NYC or something. the money isnt the hard part, the time and getting my father off my back is.

97BlackAckCL

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"Perfect for FRANKENSTEIN SWAPS meaning all Honda CRXs and older Civics owners can bolt this head on the factory block and increase more horsepower and torque. "

teh CL

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i told my dad that im doin my engine over the winter cuz i know he would freak and he laughed but was like whatever thinking that i wouldn't do it...now there's parts in the basement just waiting and he's like "what are you doin with that crap" and i told him im doin up the engine and that i will be able to take his car out (03 accord 5spd) and he laughed..

and yesterday he told me that i could take my car to Mrtyle beach this summer ...just as long as i can keep up, i just laughed and said " i'll meet you there"

should be an exciting drive..

SupraManAG

For the headache i say do the h22
Wont be a lot cheaper for just the head
im sure you can get the h22 for $1000 and install it with my mechnic for $500-$600. Wire harness $100 and ECU $200.

Ill be coming to pick up the seal as soon as i get the car running. Most likely this weekend or early next week. I have to wait for the replacement parts from the warehouse.

732xghost

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car running??? it doesnt run?? you never said anything about that yesterday, damn that sucks.

97BlackAckCL

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When you goin to myrtle? I'll be there june 9th-16th

teh CL

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im goin the last week of July..

would be if we were goin at the same time, guess i'll save you the embarassment of losing to the beastly 2.2CL

SupraManAG

you should have check out my thread before
im having an electrical issue
once i get it resolved i need to do some major calibration
if ur not doing anything this weekend maybe we can do it together, i might need a lil help

SupraManAG

i love this site

732xghost

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arite im good for sunday morning if you are. if my clear directonals come in by then maybe we can do that too.

SupraManAG

yeah
no doubt
lets hope the warehouse gets on my parts and brings them to see soon
ill call u n let you know

97BlackAckCL

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Fixed

Racer510dude

That is britney spear's pregnant sculpture.

SupraManAG

did you bother to read further down?
guess not

732xghost

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so i guess i can just bring the parts you need from honda right?

Blenz

Do you H22 swaps run P28 ecu's or what do you use?

SupraManAG

chipped P28 with dual runner control but single runner will work just fine

SupraManAG

yeah if i have the car running by sunday then ill do the seals then as well
ill give u the $$ when i see u to pick em up

teh CL

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&

Blenz

What's the difference between dual and single runner control?
Do you work with that chipped p28 through Uberdata or Crome, or would that be unnecessary unless you are going forced induction?

SupraManAG

The H22 intake manifold comes with 2 runners. Main one in front and secondary in the back. It is opened by the IAB selenoid which is activated by vacuum. The IAB is designed to open the secondary runner in higher RPM. Its a simple valve which opens when the ECU sends the signal. It allowed more air to run thru the manifold.

What I did was, I removed the selenoid and connected the vacuum line strait to the port which opens the butterfly on the runner. In other words I dont need the secondary runner control (even though I have it) to open the secondary runner.
The H22 carries the IAB but the K20 has a slighly different mechanism.

Wannarace62188

Does that mean you keep it open all the time... My friends with GS-R tegs have them open all the time for the little extra power.. Im looking into the H22 swap... Dont know tho i got no one around here to help me with it.

teh CL

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i thought u got turbo?

SupraManAG

If you have the resources and knowledge im willing to help you over the net. If you are taking it somewhere they better have done it before or you will suffer like I did when I first had it done. I was one of the few who first had the H22 in their Cl. My mechanic who did my first engine fucked up a lot more things then he fixed.

Wannarace62188

Yes i got a turbo kit for the F22... Looking into the H22 swap with boost. I got money and i am great with cars. I know i can do the swap and the few friends that kno what they are doing might help. (maybe for some beer/pizza) I want to i was reading up on it and it doesnt seem bad as far as mounting it in and what not. The only thing is is that i hear a H22 with boost isnt the best. And i think i heard the a 96-??? has the open deck??? which is better for boost. Correct me if im wrong.. (could really use the new motor seen as i got cough214Kcough on my F22...) still no oil leaks or burning of oil!!!

SupraManAG

h22 and boost dont get along very well because of its high compression (10:0:1 & 10:6:1). You need to fully gut it in order to achieve desired expectation. Bore, sleeve, head work and turbo will run you more then 10k

Wannarace62188

You can boost a high compression motor. Take a GSR motor.. Its 11.5:1 you can safely run 6 psi on that stock. I dont get why the H22 is any different. If anything i could see 8 psi on stock internals w/o problems. But ive heard of the boost problems with that motor. What type of probs are they talking about you know?

SupraManAG

bottom end problems
Stock GSR motor with 6psi?
How long did that last for?

Wannarace62188

The GSR has been on 6 psi for 3 months now going strong. No issues to deal with. How would the H22 head on the F22 block with rebuilt internals handle boost do you think? I would really love DOHC!

SupraManAG

ur looking at the Frankenstein
read back a few pages
it would come out nice

1001st post

Wannarace62188

Oh yea i was through all that. Seems like some work but then again not really. You think that would handle boost better than a H22