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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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k24a1 and a2

If I had a k24 out of crv and a head from a k24 out of a tsx would they mate together? If so would it suck like when ppl put crv motors in fast cars and they blow b/c they are not used to high rpms? let me know the mad scientists lab is in session...
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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the reason those old "B20 block and B18/B16 head" blow up in some car is becuase of the setup...there some race car out there with that setup and still driving fine...i think theres a few drilling and fitting mod u have to do for coolin.

K24a1 from a CRV fuse with a K24a2 from a TSX? i think its possible...might work even better than the old B20/B18/16 setup.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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in doing so...with what tranny are u gonna be using? even if the tranny line up...i bet u will need a custom axles.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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It's been done before. I saw it in some magazine a long time ago. Sorry I can't give you any more info than that.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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It's been done before. I saw it in some magazine a long time ago. Sorry I can't give you any more info than that.
in what car?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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with the correct work, it can be a reliable engine. For Jackson Racing to make a supercharger for it, it has to be good.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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the engine combo would work but where would you get the k-series engine mounts for the cl?? when you find out let us all know
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jz-97-c7
the engine combo would work but where would you get the k-series engine mounts for the cl?? when you find out let us all know
u have to made custom mounting bracket and wiring will be the other nightmare.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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It think it might have been an RSX or a TSX. I've seen a k-series swap done in a 6th gen Civic, so yeah...if you have the money anything's possible.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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yeah i've seen a k-series done on a 4dr Integra....anything is possible if u have the cash.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ib_jimmy
in what car?
Wait, it might have been a TSX with the same block, but RSX-S head, or an RSX with it's head and TSX block. I can't remember!!!!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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Ok, hold up. I think it would be pointless since they have the same displacement. I just realized this after my last post. The point is to have a larger displacement block for more torque, and a high reving head. Such as the RSX Type-S head and the bigger block of the TSX.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohip
It think it might have been an RSX or a TSX. I've seen a k-series swap done in a 6th gen Civic, so yeah...if you have the money anything's possible.



have you seen the video with that 6th gen civic hatch beating a yellow evo 8 with like low 20 lbs of boost... civics mods were stock ecu stock k20
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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have u seen the video of LS/VTEC Turbo beat a 11sec Viper and a GSX1200 on the street? straight out sleeper.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ib_jimmy
the reason those old "B20 block and B18/B16 head" blow up in some car is becuase of the setup...there some race car out there with that setup and still driving fine...i think theres a few drilling and fitting mod u have to do for coolin.

K24a1 from a CRV fuse with a K24a2 from a TSX? i think its possible...might work even better than the old B20/B18/16 setup.
we never had a problem w/ the one we built, but I've had friends blow them up, but anything will blow if you don't treat it right
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ib_jimmy
yeah i've seen a k-series done on a 4dr Integra....anything is possible if u have the cash.

not that hard, they have bolt in kits for them now, this is a VERY VERY popular swap, there are NUMEROUS K-series older honda and acuras out here. My friends shop had about 3-4 hatches and tegs w/ k-series swaps
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jz-97-c7
the engine combo would work but where would you get the k-series engine mounts for the cl?? when you find out let us all know

weld them in yourself. If my tranny goes and I do look to doing a swap, i'll see the different w/ the h22a and the k24 and maybe do the k24
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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have you seen the one where the guy attached a jet engine to his car? even faster!



have you seen the AOL American Choppers commercial? Time Travel!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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So...basically i should get the block crv block isnt what i need (shit!) i rly should look for a tsx block and an rsx head? and what tranny would i use i didnt get that far. i dont care how long it takes,ill save teh money. does anyone kno how fast these motors are is it worth it?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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weld them in yourself. If my tranny goes and I do look to doing a swap, i'll see the different w/ the h22a and the k24 and maybe do the k24

now that i've got to thinkin about it it doesn't sound that bad...the shifter and the wiring will be a headache, but not much bigger than any other engine swap... ...when i get my crown vic/road king i may have to look this all up
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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shifter shouldn't be a problem honestly, and their are already wiring kits available, rest shouldn't be hard, although I hate wiring




throw a 427 in the vic!!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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throw a 427 in the vic!!
shhh the wife may hear you
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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I was watching the show rides and this dude had a helicopter engine in his pickup... idled at 35000 rpm or something and redlined at 2 million rpms... i was shocked. the had 2 8 inch exhausts coming out of the top of the cab like on the 18 wheelers.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ju5tchi11in
I was watching the show rides and this dude had a helicopter engine in his pickup... idled at 35000 rpm or something and redlined at 2 million rpms... i was shocked. the had 2 8 inch exhausts coming out of the top of the cab like on the 18 wheelers.
i saw that....the horse power tour. that was crazy! it was on a F150
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ju5tchi11in
I was watching the show rides and this dude had a helicopter engine in his pickup... idled at 35000 rpm or something and redlined at 2 million rpms... i was shocked. the had 2 8 inch exhausts coming out of the top of the cab like on the 18 wheelers.

i've seen so much crazy weird shit, helicopter engines in old bugs, turbine cars, some people do some CRAZY CRAZY shit
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
have you seen the video with that 6th gen civic hatch beating a yellow evo 8 with like low 20 lbs of boost... civics mods were stock ecu stock k20
That would be SICK!! Do you have a link?


Originally Posted by ib_jimmy
have u seen the video of LS/VTEC Turbo beat a 11sec Viper and a GSX1200 on the street? straight out sleeper.

I wanna see that one too!!!!!

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ShibbidyDibbidy
If I had a k24 out of crv and a head from a k24 out of a tsx would they mate together? If so would it suck like when ppl put crv motors in fast cars and they blow b/c they are not used to high rpms? let me know the mad scientists lab is in session...
All the K-series parts should be interchangeable, including the transmissions. As for blowing up the motor, within reason, the limiting factor would be revs with the longer stroke of a k24. It would have to be pretty conservative on the rev side using a k24 block and crank compared to a k20a, k20a2, or k20z1.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Ok, hold up. I think it would be pointless since they have the same displacement. I just realized this after my last post. The point is to have a larger displacement block for more torque, and a high reving head. Such as the RSX Type-S head and the bigger block of the TSX.
Did anyone read my post ?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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^Just to add, you might want to check out maybe honda-tech, hybrid-racing.com or a few other K-series resources for more definitive info as that was just a basic generalization.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Did anyone read my post ?
What exactly was the point you were making? I'm kind of confused as to what you were calling pointless, a CRV block with a TSX head?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by R1Performance
What exactly was the point you were making? I'm kind of confused as to what you were calling pointless, a CRV block with a TSX head?
Yes?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Did anyone read my post ?
i was confuse on what u were trying to say also.

well i'm pretty sure the K24 on the CRV and the K24 on the TSX have different compression ratio giving the K24 (CRV) a short stroke and produce more torque than the TSX.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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and that video i was talking about was a long time ago, i have no idea where it is now.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Well, a TSX head would definitely flow a lot better than the CRV head, so it isnt too illogical. It is a pretty significant upgrade because the CR-V head is only "VTEC" on the intake side, like the older F and D sohc VTEC motors. The k24a2 is two-sided intake/exhaust VTEC and probably flows close to an a2 head. But yes, a k20a, a2, z1 head would probably be better from a pure flow standpoint alone than the TSX k24a2 head.
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