View Poll Results: Which do you guys like
Ground Control Coilovers/Koni Yellow Shocks
11
36.67%
Form and Function Type-II Coilovers
8
26.67%
D2 Coilovers
11
36.67%
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I wanna go looooooow
#41
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
current ride height:
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beautyful - you open to selling after you source the new replacement shit?
#44
Originally Posted by irresponsiblekid
beautyful - you open to selling after you source the new replacement shit?
and thanks chris. i miss the hood. i sold it to shaun. i dont have the time or money to have it fixed. hopefully he does.
#45
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
i guess i would if your willing to buy a 2yr old suspension. their still in good shape and all but im just saying
and thanks chris. i miss the hood. i sold it to shaun. i dont have the time or money to have it fixed. hopefully he does.
and thanks chris. i miss the hood. i sold it to shaun. i dont have the time or money to have it fixed. hopefully he does.
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Personally, I think they're uncomfortable. Definitely go with custom spring rates if you decide to get them. I switched mine out from 13k/7k to 7k/6k and it made a big difference, but the real difference is in the damper design.
D2s/Ksports are actually more similar to the Tein Mono Flex setup. D2s/Ksports/F2s/Mono Flex all have monotube dampers. Tein SS/Type Flex have twin tube dampers.
Found this on H-T:
"Monotube - the fluid and gas inside are highly pressurized and are separated with a movable piston.
Advantages:
1) It gives more fluid volume --- energy from spring oscillation is mainly being dissipated in a form of heat and absorbed by the fluid. So higher fluid volume equals higher heat capacity. Remote reservoir has almost double the fluid volume and the reservoirs can be located away from the heat source (ie. inside the driving compartment.)
2) Valve diameter is big. It gives the same amount of energy dissipation with shorter stroke. It performs well even with very little shock travel. So it is ideal for low ride height and stiff springs (1000 lbs+ springs).
3) Highly pressurized gas and fluid eliminate cavitation (air bubble in fluid) so performance is consistent.
Disadvantages:
1) Highly pressurized means higher construction cost.
2) More fluid means heavier unsprung weight (but still lighter than most twin tube dampers). So some monotube dampers are made with aluminum shell -- expensive.
3) Large diameter valve responses very well to transitional load (cornering, accelerating, braking) but responses very slow to bumps so it is not ideal for street use.
Twin Tube - A smaller tube is inside the outside shell and the valve is inside that smaller tube. Fluid and gas are in direct contact and are lowly pressurized.
Advantages:
1) Low construction cost and easy to rebuild.
2) Responses well to bumps and transitional load, but need longer shock travel.
3) Ideal for street and occasional track use.
Disadvantages:
1) Cavitation may occur under extreme use (track use) because of low pressure fluid inside.
2) Cannot handle high spring rates like the monotube.
3) Ride height needs to be set according to the amount of shock travel, usually means a bit higher ride height."
I've driven my friend's Evo 8 with the Tein Type Flex (twin tube) setup 12k front/10k rear and the ride is WAY more comfortable and smoother than my D2s (monotube), even with the EDFC set at the stiffest setting.
About F2s, I was searching Youtube on how to adjust the height on the Tein SS (since you have to adjust the height along with the spring load) and came across this:
"Well mine were underdampened to the max. I bottomed out on every single little dip and dive in the road. It was over stuff that was like an inch deep that I wouldn't even think twice about in on my Teins. They were bouncing, as in they were too soft. The springs were much stiffer than my Teins' but the shocks were horrible so they just felt like crap. Handling was diminished and they weren't very comfy..."
So I guess they're pretty soft. Here's the link:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tLRdo8atXbM
It all depends on what you want. Hope this helps.
D2s/Ksports are actually more similar to the Tein Mono Flex setup. D2s/Ksports/F2s/Mono Flex all have monotube dampers. Tein SS/Type Flex have twin tube dampers.
Found this on H-T:
"Monotube - the fluid and gas inside are highly pressurized and are separated with a movable piston.
Advantages:
1) It gives more fluid volume --- energy from spring oscillation is mainly being dissipated in a form of heat and absorbed by the fluid. So higher fluid volume equals higher heat capacity. Remote reservoir has almost double the fluid volume and the reservoirs can be located away from the heat source (ie. inside the driving compartment.)
2) Valve diameter is big. It gives the same amount of energy dissipation with shorter stroke. It performs well even with very little shock travel. So it is ideal for low ride height and stiff springs (1000 lbs+ springs).
3) Highly pressurized gas and fluid eliminate cavitation (air bubble in fluid) so performance is consistent.
Disadvantages:
1) Highly pressurized means higher construction cost.
2) More fluid means heavier unsprung weight (but still lighter than most twin tube dampers). So some monotube dampers are made with aluminum shell -- expensive.
3) Large diameter valve responses very well to transitional load (cornering, accelerating, braking) but responses very slow to bumps so it is not ideal for street use.
Twin Tube - A smaller tube is inside the outside shell and the valve is inside that smaller tube. Fluid and gas are in direct contact and are lowly pressurized.
Advantages:
1) Low construction cost and easy to rebuild.
2) Responses well to bumps and transitional load, but need longer shock travel.
3) Ideal for street and occasional track use.
Disadvantages:
1) Cavitation may occur under extreme use (track use) because of low pressure fluid inside.
2) Cannot handle high spring rates like the monotube.
3) Ride height needs to be set according to the amount of shock travel, usually means a bit higher ride height."
I've driven my friend's Evo 8 with the Tein Type Flex (twin tube) setup 12k front/10k rear and the ride is WAY more comfortable and smoother than my D2s (monotube), even with the EDFC set at the stiffest setting.
About F2s, I was searching Youtube on how to adjust the height on the Tein SS (since you have to adjust the height along with the spring load) and came across this:
"Well mine were underdampened to the max. I bottomed out on every single little dip and dive in the road. It was over stuff that was like an inch deep that I wouldn't even think twice about in on my Teins. They were bouncing, as in they were too soft. The springs were much stiffer than my Teins' but the shocks were horrible so they just felt like crap. Handling was diminished and they weren't very comfy..."
So I guess they're pretty soft. Here's the link:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tLRdo8atXbM
It all depends on what you want. Hope this helps.
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#52
Well if you wanna go super dumped, then go D2's. I'm dropped about 2 inches all around and slightly tucking rubber and still have another 2.5-3 inches of thread to work with. You can hammer the shit out of your car with D2's. And if you do plan on riding with rim near fender, you're going to want the super stiff ride so that you dont bottom out so much. With going that low, you're going to have to sacrafice things, most notably ride quality. But since its a full coilover sleeve, the preload remains the same so the only thing you have to do is mess with the damper dial to find where your comfort 'sweet spot' is.
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Originally Posted by GhettoNinja06
yes i searched but quick n00b question...
Shocks are Struts right?
Shocks are Struts right?
#54
Originally Posted by fliplyricist1
Well if you wanna go super dumped, then go D2's. I'm dropped about 2 inches all around and slightly tucking rubber and still have another 2.5-3 inches of thread to work with. You can hammer the shit out of your car with D2's. And if you do plan on riding with rim near fender, you're going to want the super stiff ride so that you dont bottom out so much. With going that low, you're going to have to sacrafice things, most notably ride quality. But since its a full coilover sleeve, the preload remains the same so the only thing you have to do is mess with the damper dial to find where your comfort 'sweet spot' is.
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if you want stiff go omni sports they're 12/10k. pretty brutal for daily driving especially on highways. im gunna pick up custom springs for my f2's. gunna go with either 10/8 or 12/10 (same spring rates as omni sport i had). with adj. dampening i can dial in my preferences and i think the f2 coils will ride a lot better than my omni's.
im sure u can slam the shit out of your car using any adj. strut body coilovers.
im sure u can slam the shit out of your car using any adj. strut body coilovers.
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^^^^ omni's are stiff as hell, too stiff, their one downfall is that you can't adjust the dampening, that's why i sold mine
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wow, his car did get owned..
also, the quick ass turn/slide in this is pretty slick..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHmT...eature=related
too bad my car has to be over pebbles or it has to be wet to do it..maybe im just retarded.
also, the quick ass turn/slide in this is pretty slick..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHmT...eature=related
too bad my car has to be over pebbles or it has to be wet to do it..maybe im just retarded.
#64
Originally Posted by ZeroCL
wow, his car did get owned..
also, the quick ass turn/slide in this is pretty slick..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHmT...eature=related
too bad my car has to be over pebbles or it has to be wet to do it..maybe im just retarded.
also, the quick ass turn/slide in this is pretty slick..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHmT...eature=related
too bad my car has to be over pebbles or it has to be wet to do it..maybe im just retarded.
You gotta jerk the wheel and pull the e-brake simultaneously.
#65
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Originally Posted by ZeroCL
wow, his car did get owned..
also, the quick ass turn/slide in this is pretty slick..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHmT...eature=related
too bad my car has to be over pebbles or it has to be wet to do it..maybe im just retarded.
also, the quick ass turn/slide in this is pretty slick..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUHmT...eature=related
too bad my car has to be over pebbles or it has to be wet to do it..maybe im just retarded.
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Originally Posted by CLpwner
No offense, but you're just retarded...
You gotta jerk the wheel and pull the e-brake simultaneously.
You gotta jerk the wheel and pull the e-brake simultaneously.
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
^^^^ omni's are stiff as hell, too stiff, their one downfall is that you can't adjust the dampening, that's why i sold mine
but they did handle great! I wish there was something inbetween, i guess custom springrates on F2's would be great
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
at this point im really leaning toward the GC/Koni's. i have not head anything bad about them. even talked to local friends in the Vdub and bimmer scene and even those guys swear by that setup.
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
umm wtf happened to intelligent conversations about slamming CL's.
get this shit out.
get this shit out.
#72
SANJOCL
so i know this thread is kinda old already but my friend (who's CL im helping to mod) is going through the same deal. he's leaning towards ksports cause he likes what he's seen so far. but he's more of the person thats on a budget (hes not like me and just spends spends spends). are there websites or places that he can get the ksports for cheap? i read on this thread that people have gotten them 600 shipped or something (im in so much pain right now i dont remember if it was this thread or not)...thats a real good price but we cant find it anywhere for that much.
or maybe if there is an alternative to ksports that are just as good. this mutha fucka isnt listening to me when i say "dude you get what you pay for hoe"...hahaha...
or maybe if there is an alternative to ksports that are just as good. this mutha fucka isnt listening to me when i say "dude you get what you pay for hoe"...hahaha...
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i saw them cheap on h-t for about $600
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sick, wish i could go that low