slo97cl

alright this past week my tranny has been slipping, wouldn't downshift when you accelerated(went into neutrual) and shifting wierd( almost like a double 1to2 shift), saturday i flushed the transcause the fluid was pretty bad and now i it wont shift past 2nd gear, , and some times it shifts but doesn't change gears( i feel 3 shifts) the codes that im gtting are p0714 input shaft speed p0715(i think) output shaft speed, and a P0740 TCC malf. im not sure of what the exact def. for those codes is but thats what the generic scan too i have says. its a 97 2.2 auto with 93k on it. do i need a new tranny or torque converter, or solenoids. any help would be appreciated, i work at a ford dealership and im right next to a honda dealership so parts and work aren't and issue, i just dont know anything about these trannys

slo97cl

sorry can someone move this to the first gen thread thanks

EricL

Moved...

wilp99

basically one of ur speed sensors are bad. the input shaft sensor is the one that detects how fast the clutch packs are turning, which is prolly the one that is bad. the output shaft speed sensor is connected to the differential and tetects how fast it is spinning. the computer takes measurments from the two and decide what gear the car needs to go into. the tcc sensor is the lock up control engage for the torque converter, it detects how much fluid is passing until u reach a certain rpm and the torque converter "locks up" not sending a rising ammount of fluid to the pump, when the torque converter locks up it pumps the same ammount of fluid to the pump no matter what rpm ur in past lets say 5k rpm(just to throw out a number) u problem is eather the vcs (vehicle speed sensor) or the input shaft speed sensor. thier both pretty expensive but they do go out. the best bet would be to replace the vehicle speed sensor, since it controlls all the rest of the sensors in a way. in the mean time DO NOT DRIVE UR CAR, OR U WILL BE LOOKING AT A REBUILD. $1800+.
go to this site and see how much it will cost. it will take some searching but u will find it.

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...prddisplay.jsp

remember do not drive ur car. and make sure all the sensors are totally hooked up. each plug has only one socket it will go on, distinguished by eather color or size or shape. so u cannot mess it up.

good luck haas.

LCARUCA 97

hopefully you didnt actually FLUSH the tranny because hondas cannot be flushed without ruining them. they are simply a drain and fill. thats what caused mine to go from bad to FUCK ME!

slo97cl

well when i first bought the car back in december the tranny slipped a little and i flushed it and its been fine until now, but yes i did flush it. how does it hurt the transmission.

actually its more of a fluid exchange dirty fluid goes in clan fluid comes out. that kinda thing.

and the car has been driven about 8 miles since its beed messed up, i was talking to the trans guy at my work and he said te clutches for 3rd and 4th are probibly gone. but is there a way to test the sensors, honda scan tool?

97Acura3.0CL

flush the tranny and i think you shoudl be ok but yeah wilp said is right, the speed sensor is going bad or mybe a shift silinoid

i would take it to a tranny shop and have it checked just in case they can prob around with a scope and see if you have any problems internal

wilp99

u can ohm them out, and a way to tell if u have bad 3+4 clutches is a pressre test. which u need a fluid pressure tester. ill scan my service manual for the ohm out of the sensors. tho thier for the 3.0 they should be similar.

slo97cl

well im pretty sure the clutches are gone, i drove it around the complex today and i feel the 2-3 and 3-4 shift but nothing actually happens, also i was told that is you drive it while the oss is bad it burns up the clutches cause the computer doesn't know that its shifting, so it doesn't get the right pressures. so im trying to find a rebuild kit any one know where i can get one, honda only sells pieces like ford, anyone?

LCARUCA 97

time to convert to manual.

wilp99

http://www.bulkpart.com/cgi-bin/miva...ory_Code=Honda

here is where i got mine from when i rebuilt mine. it costed me a total of 350$ including a manual from www.helminc.com

i would highly suggest getting one it tells u everything u need to know about rebuilding ur tranny. also do not get the chiltons or haynes manuals cause they dont go into rebuilding the tranny.

wilp99

also u want the master rebuild kit.

slo97cl

sweet its only like 165 bucks, and the filter is the one that says 4cyl 93-up right, also where did you gt new bands,

r3mix3r

I talk to alot of local people around here and they all agree FLUSH cause more harm then good MOST of the time. And why pay more?

slo97cl

we do flushes all the time and on all major services eg. 30k 60k 90k and it helps alot. the only time it really harms a tranny is when there is already a problem, then you flush it and you remove all of the build up in side and it can make the problems more apparent. last winter when i flushed mine it stopped it from slipping when it was cold and it shifted smoother when warm too. its one of those things some people swear by and others swear about it.

but ie noticed on the cars where they get all their services done and on time and bring their car in all the time , never have any problems with their cooling or tranny.

98CLChick

Reading all this makes me glad I don't have an auto.

Slooo97CL

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161k on my first tranny auto

r3mix3r

How would u explain ur driving? Stop n go? Highway?

and do u drive like an old lady? or do you beat on it?

wilp99

bands are old school. we have clutch packs. which are monitored by sensors. no bands. what comes in the kit is everything u need to rebuild it. to save a few dollars u can use generic dextron III as assembly lube. soak the cluth packs for bout 30 minutes in a tub of dextron III, or u will burn them up as soon as u start ur car. lube everything. if u have a decent ammount of knowledge about fixing cars u can do this rebuild. its not really that hard.

slo97cl

sweet then ill just get the 2 sensors from honda and ill be set tha nks alot

slo97cl

well it ends up that the diff bearings went bad and cause the sensors to go bad along with the seloniods, so im up to roughly 800 in parts, and people at honda cant look up parts for trannys and the people at acrua dont know how to look up parts for trannys, it took them 4 days to look up the wrong parts, i just spent 30 min at www.acuraautomotiveparts.org and found everything i needed. geesh, this is taking too long i need my car already.

wilp99

if thier gonna change the bearings then they should just rebuild it, u have to crack the whole tranny open anyways. which is where most of the labor cost is. the clutch packs are only 200$ and that will suffice for a total rebuild. oh yea if ur gonna do it ur self dont forget to shimm the new bearings. u can use ur old ones but have a few handy cause thier eathier gonna require more or less of them.