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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Wow im so excited about this haha.. QUICK i want to get mine done!! HAHA
Thanks Silentalero
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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haha, well the sooner i get the taillights the sooner itll happen, tricky part is gonna be matching the led's to the power that goes into the taillights. since the one circuit is a 3v power to have the lights on then a 12v hit when the brake pedal is pushed.

Plus does anybody have a hayes to gimme a wiring diagram so i dont fry out a few sets of leds testing sheit.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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sounds like a good idea and the pricing is definitely reasonable. assuming the test pair looks good i'm in
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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if you guys can actually make it look oem, count me in for sure.
looks hot
Make sure it looks like something from the factory and I'm in (depending on the price). I like the straight lines (i.e. 3G TL) better than the circles
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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well im going to compare the zsize of leds, because i can do 2mm 5mm and 10mm leds...im gonna start with the 5mm and see how they sizez up and look. If to make it better ill goto 10mm and do more spaces.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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well im going to compare the zsize of leds, because i can do 2mm 5mm and 10mm leds...im gonna start with the 5mm and see how they sizez up and look. If to make it better ill goto 10mm and do more spaces.
3g TL tails for teh win... no circles or any of that...
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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keep the circles for the G35s
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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[QUOTE=Plus does anybody have a hayes to gimme a wiring diagram so i dont fry out a few sets of leds testing sheit.[/QUOTE]

I have the manual, but cant find it. I will take my voltage meter and go check them right now...
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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keep the circles for the G35s
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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So after some testing and retesting using 4 meters, and searching online, i have found after testing that there is no 3V source back there. It all goes from 11.somethin to 12.5ish. this was done with and without bulbes in... what i mean is that i peirced the wires and this is what t read on every wire that i got! be it break running, or turning! any ideas?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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ill have to check the relays, not sure how the wiring ciruitry is on em.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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bump for teh leds
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Lets get these shits made, ooooo i can just see it now, i will have to trade cars with someone and follow them so i can see how pretty my car loos with the leds and my new HID's hehe i cant wait till spring time
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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I'm interested, get some prototypage goin, and people will go nuts trying to buy them from u
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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If an individual LED needs 3 volts, then put 4 LEDs in series, head to tail, so to speak. Now, this combination will run on 12 volts. Add more of this 4-LED combination in parallel with each other, and every LED will always see 3 volts.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tosh
If an individual LED needs 3 volts, then put 4 LEDs in series, head to tail, so to speak. Now, this combination will run on 12 volts. Add more of this 4-LED combination in parallel with each other, and every LED will always see 3 volts.
Just make sure to put a resistor in the series
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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I am sooo confused...lol...electrical systems, and I dont mix. lol But hell, the design looks bad ass! (sounds like I'll have to start savin up for them!)
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Just make sure to put a resistor in the series
A resistor of what value? If you add a resistor, the voltage drop across it will reduce the voltage seen by the LEDs.
I don't know what total resistance the burned-out-bulb-sensing-circuit needs (or if that's even the working principle), but perhaps this could be found by experimenting with some 5 watt resistors (not little 1/4 or 1/2W ones- they'll pop from the heat) in place of a bulb to check where the instrument warning lamp stops illuminating or blinker rate changes. The resistor values to start with would be found by just measuring the resistance of a dual filament bulb (across the brighter filament). But it's also possible that having a large number of LEDs (48? 96?) will satisfy the resistance requirement without adding resistors. Looking up the specs for the LED and a little calculation will yield that information.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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/\ thats exactly the formula i was going to work from because im going to make both sets of leds 1 circuit so i can use more to complete a larger number to avoid the resistor issue. If that doesnt work then what ill do is get 2 different series of leds and make one for brake lights full brightness, setup a relay and the other set work off the 3v operation
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Silentalero
/\ thats exactly the formula i was going to work from because im going to make both sets of leds 1 circuit so i can use more to complete a larger number to avoid the resistor issue. If that doesnt work then what ill do is get 2 different series of leds and make one for brake lights full brightness, setup a relay and the other set work off the 3v operation

Thats exactly what i was thinking. Like put a row of leds, then every other one would be for brake lights. so it would look like x-x-x-x-x-x-x as standard then wen you hit the brakes it would be xxxxxxxxxxx
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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silentalero, what up pimp, wonderin if you got that donor set started yet plus the time frame that we're all lookin at?
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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nope, havent gotten anything in the mail yet.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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i have offically scrapped the led idea, gl silent
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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i have offically scrapped the led idea, gl silent
damn
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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You guys are missing a bunch of the picture here. It's not really resistance the flasher is looking for, it's the load - IE current draw. You can use resistance to simulate that, but you need to calculate it from the current side. Do you guys know Ohm's Law? Do you know what the forward voltage drop of an LED means?

Kinda scares me you guys are willing to send $250 to a guy that doesn't even have a wiring diagram of the car (no offense dude).
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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If Proaudio is right (I think he is), then this would make for a simpler circuit overall, as there would be no need for any extra resistors.
I also get the feeling SilentAlero is on the wrong track by wondering about relays.
Also, it would be nicer (and probably cheaper overall) to use the same LEDs for brake lights and parking lights, that is two different voltages. That's the way most other cars are.
Sorry to put a damper on the fun, but this project needs a bit more brainstorming.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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well see heres the thing, yes i know ohms law. im just looking at different aspects to do this. most likely im going to pull a wiring diagram from a G35 since they have a true led setup. then go from there. And no offense taken, if for any reason the circuitry doesnt work its not like im going to run with the cash. I wont ship any orders untill these are working perfect. But you also have to remember Nissan/Infinity has alot more resources to create a board to simply slide into a taillight. As to where i have to make the lights work bulb by bulb.


and yea i dont have the wiring diagram because first i need to see the taillights on the inside to even see how many and where i can position them before im concerned about what wire goes where. Plus the fact that I work 2 jobs doesnt give me much time. Im doing this because I saw some interest and i can work on it for a side project
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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let me know if you want me to sent you some lights!! i want to get this started
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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this isnt a new mod it has been done on many other cars like accords, civics, maximas ... i've seen it on other forums and they teach you how to do it...
on v6p.net couple of members have it.. you can check it out on their 6th gen accords
my buddy just got his done i'll take some pics of his tails he has a 6th gen coupe
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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this kind of mod should be very simple from the electrical standpoint, the voltage can be supplied by the leds in series, whereas if you need more current draw for sensor issues, you put a wirewound resistor in parallel with the entire led layout, so that the voltage remains the same for the leds... as far as using extra leds for braking, this shouldnt take more than a few transistors... at most 1 ic if necessary, but i wouldnt think so. a voltage sensing circuit like that could also be used to dim/brighten the leds, but thats up to you.

an entirely different story is how youre gunna get the leds inside the tail and lay them out properly.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zhouz
this kind of mod should be very simple from the electrical standpoint, the voltage can be supplied by the leds in series, whereas if you need more current draw for sensor issues, you put a wirewound resistor in parallel with the entire led layout, so that the voltage remains the same for the leds... as far as using extra leds for braking, this shouldnt take more than a few transistors... at most 1 ic if necessary, but i wouldnt think so. a voltage sensing circuit like that could also be used to dim/brighten the leds, but thats up to you.

an entirely different story is how youre gunna get the leds inside the tail and lay them out properly.
dyme looks like your schooled pretty well in leds.. wanna make us a diagram for people like me who are led illeterate. thanks
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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heres some helpful info for led's
http://www.theledlight.com/ledcircuits.html
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Very interested. I have no doubt your design will be better than anything I could think of...
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Well just need a donor set still. Thats why i want a donor set before i worry about the electrical. I wanna get the layout first because doing the wiring is easy. The bulb size, fitting them and finding out how big of leds i actually need ois first priority.

and btw i can sell a spare center led bar with to if anybody wants that option.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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I've got a donor set I can lend you and you can take as much time as you need with them. Not in a rush to get them back seeing as both of my 1st gens are motor less awaiting new heart transplants. Let me know..
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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that will work, i still need the donor set
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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what ever happened to this?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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we moved on
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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we moved on
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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I would like #3... those look real good...
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