yeah me and my friends we installing my GReddy Headers and Pspec short shifter. we got the shifter in great. the headers are another story. the headers in our cars is a bitch, infact, everything about our car is a bitch. well heres the scoop. the got everything off except one bolt on the middle of the header where it splits into to peices. that bolt was mad seized. i think we wasted a whole can of wd-40 on it and it still wouldn't come off. my friends got frustrated so we unbolted the compressor and the front motor mount to see if we could slide that shit through the bottom. . . no luck. to make a long story short, we couldn't get the belt aligned and my car is sitting in a shop right now. the saddest thing, we didn't even get the header in. . . .the bolt is still stuck. man, i'm about the sell my car and by a 96 hatch!


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they make greddy headers for our car?

 

yeah. well it's for the 94-97 accord. they are carb legal too

 

had the same problem with my accord well almost the same. i didnt have a extention to reach the bolt so i whiped out the dremel and cut the headers where it bends 90 degree

 

thats for the 4cyl and not the accord right, i thought greddy didnt make headers for the 3.0

 

you're going to need an air gun with a long ass extension on it. infact, an impact hammer will take it out in like 2 seconds. Had the same problem when i was taking my stock ones off

 

yes its for the 4 banger...

WD40 i sgood for loosening rust, etc off bolts. however in a situation like this where a bolt is seized, WD40 will NOYT penitrate!!! Get a high flame torch and heat the bolts for a few minutes and then try... just keep repeating this... This is what I had to do on the bolts at the other end of the downpipe by the CAT... Good Luck Man!!!

and hey... dont sell it.. this can happen on any install on any car!!!

 

Try some Liquid Wrench, it's very good at penitrating rusted up stuff like this. I could not get the flywheel off our Deere to save my life (stupid ass starter quit...). I had the right flywheel puller tool, but it was just stuck. 5 mins and some LW later, it was off. Just get some of this stuff, spray it around the area (you can see it seep into the bolt), wait a couple mins, and the thing should come right off. WD-40 is a lubricating oil, it also displaces water pretty well. Liquid Wrench is just penitrating oil - this is what it's made for. Don't leave home with out a can! lol

 

I didn't have any problem installing my headers... Everything was nice and easy.. except for the two bolts where the CAT bolts to the header.

 

you think these cars are hard to work on

 

screw all that wd and liquid wrench shit, heat, use heat.

 

burn that shit off!!

 

dude i've worked on civics and almost every other honda. what takes me 30 mins on a civic, take me 2 hours on my cl. everyone that's worked on my cl with me says the same thing.

 

i've worked on civics, integras and my cl and as far as i can tell the integra is the hardest to work on. At least I've had the most trouble with it. The civic is the easiest by far though.

Oh yeah, and all last school year I worked on my friends highly modified 93 RX7 right after he personally installed a single turbo setup. Lets just say the CL looks like a fuckin toddler holding a lollipop compared to the rex.

 

Hit it with a torch for a few seconds to heat it up- it should come right out.

 

fuckin rotory is a bitch.

TeamBlurry, you can't just break the bolt off to get the header off and then take the broken bolt out and replace it?

 

Greddy make a header for the 98+accord v6...just needa modify it a bit to fit on our CL. Anybody know how much those headers run for?

 

blurry-why are you wasting money on a header?? I thought you were going H22? Don't sell your car and get a hatch! I thought about shit like that, and it would be fun just since a bolt on h22 would get it close to 13's, but it's still just a civic! There everywhere and the inside is sooo shitty! They don't even make the 96+ hatches with POWER WINDOWS! Cause the're all dx or cx. 1st gens are soo pimp, and not many peoplehave modded ones at all.

Dude once you get the h22 you will be so happy! Plus you'll already have e/i on it because ours fit.

 

Serious, I would NOT get a civic.... Like ever, I despise having the same car as everyone else in this damn town. He's also right about the interior, I've been in more civics than I can count, and I was happiest OUT of them

 

i thoguht u got a fmax turbo ready to put in....why put in header?

 

nah. . . i sold the turbo and i'm not going h22. yeah i'm just going to run this engine into the ground and then get a h22. but i just bought about $2000 worth of audio equipment

 

no space, plus the bolt is on the bottom of the header.

 

you must be doing something wrong. I've been working on them all too and an 4 banger CL/accord isn't any different. I've been around the industry for years now and have never heard someone say an accord is hard to work on. It may be a little bit harder then a civic (don't see where) but try working on something else, these cars don't get any simpilier

 

okay, take the short shifter for example. on a civic you take off one peice of the center consel. on the cl you have to take off the whole center consel plus the glove. an accord is not hard to work on. it's only the cl.

 

dammit! i have totake the whole console off to install your shifter? oh well, i still want it. It can't be that hard to install.

 

go do some work on a lexus, audi, something else and you will see how simplified these cars are.

 

everything needs to go. armrest, glove box, radio. . . everything

 

 

are you sure you have to take off everything? There are a good amount of people on this board w/ SS's and none of them have ever mentioned this

 

EVERYTHING. . . . it really sucks.

 

i'm having 2nd thoughts on this blurry. how long did it take to rip everything apart, install the ss, and put it all back? Less than 3 hours I want it, more than that, forget it.

 

When I did my short shifter, I didnt take shit off but the ashtray pocket and the cup holder. I slipped my hand through the ashtray hole w/wrenches in hand and a light shinning down through the holes where the cup holder is. It was uncomfortable but it was on in twenty minutes. Taking the center consol out is such a bitch.

 

thanks mark, I figured there had to be some way around ripping my car appart. I hope I can install mine half that quick tho.

 

It's no fun doing it like that, but it worked for me.

 

damn, i could never get my hands through there. plus mark, you already knew where everything was and how it should go. if your a noob at installing stuff. i wouldn't do it that way.

 

Yeah, I actually had it installed on my 94 Honda Accord coupe. Been there done that many times before. I've been all through my car a bunch of times. Wait till you see this five lug suspention I'm putting together. I've allways liked tinkering with Accords, Preludes and CL's. Most of my Friends have those damn rollerskate looking hatchbacks. Dont get me wrong, Civics are cool, but too abundant.

 

For a small fee, I'll break it off.

 

prelude brake conversion?