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Old 12-29-2001 | 01:02 AM
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Cops Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i went to this new place tonite where people race. there was like maybe 15 cars or less there. cop comes busts me and 3 other guys. he gave us all a 270 dollar fine with max of 5 points!!!!!! i wasn't even racing!!!!!!! citations for loitering are only 25 and he was tellin me that i was involved in a street racing contest. i'm so pissed cuz if i didn't get any violations until april i would have cleared my record! i could forget about that now. even if i go to court, i will still get screwed!! i don't know what i'm gonna do.
Old 12-29-2001 | 03:32 AM
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i say take it to court and fight anyhow

tell them you were crusing by going to your friends house and saw something

and just stop to look

BAD cops no donut
Old 12-29-2001 | 03:52 AM
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Well, here in CA you can't even be near the races anymore. It will be considered as participating the racing so you should check out your laws over there and make sure this law wasn't added.


Get yourself a lawyer if you are going to fight it..otherwise say goodbye. In racing situations, you don't want to really fight without a lawyer because most judges probably don't like street racing, so they won't be too nice. Just my .02

Edit: Oh and be lucky they didnt tow the car..I hear that they do that sometimes around my neck of the woods. So that would be the ticket plus impound fees.
Old 12-29-2001 | 09:47 AM
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Re: Cops Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by shatooi
i went to this new place tonite where people race. there was like maybe 15 cars or less there. cop comes busts me and 3 other guys. he gave us all a 270 dollar fine with max of 5 points!!!!!! i wasn't even racing!!!!!!! citations for loitering are only 25 and he was tellin me that i was involved in a street racing contest. i'm so pissed cuz if i didn't get any violations until april i would have cleared my record! i could forget about that now. even if i go to court, i will still get screwed!! i don't know what i'm gonna do.
Damn! Sorry to hear that!

Where were you at?

I'd definitely fight it in court!
Old 12-29-2001 | 11:16 AM
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Hate to say it but in most places if you are at the scene (especially with a slightly modified car) you can be charged with street racing. Thats the chance you take when you go the races but im really sorry you got caught
Old 12-29-2001 | 02:04 PM
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Yep...its true. My friend got a citation for simply being at the same place as the street races were.

I'd fight the ticket if I were you. You really don't want a street racing citation on your record, insurance will you up the ass.
Old 12-29-2001 | 04:09 PM
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I just came back from Miami (visitin' fam for X-mas)... WineRed or dcsquirm...did you hear about the 300+ cars that were stopped for racing down Ockechobee...they had undercover all in the mix and had races on videotape. They said 100 cars escaped, but they had to set up tables and have kids wait in line to give their license/registration. They found no alcohol or drugs, or kids with warrants...so the news didn't portray the situation that bad...just that kids need a legit place to race, or this will continue. Any thoughts?
Old 12-29-2001 | 04:11 PM
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ummmm... fight nothing! you were there.. its called an accomplice(check spelling!)... you have no proof you weren't racing so.. you have no grounds to fight it! if you were there and the bust was for racing.. YOU WERE RACING... sorry man!
Old 12-29-2001 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Casper98CL
ummmm... fight nothing! you were there.. its called an accomplice(check spelling!)... you have no proof you weren't racing so.. you have no grounds to fight it! if you were there and the bust was for racing.. YOU WERE RACING... sorry man!


I still stand by my, you should get a lawyer, standpoint. At least he/she might be able to keep the points off your record. I still see no way out of paying for this one in one way or another though. Illegal racing is...hmm...illegal If you wanna play, get ready to be pay the price. Sorry though.
Old 12-29-2001 | 08:54 PM
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he casper, you say that i have nothin to fight for cuz i have no way of proving that i wasn't racing. well tell me this then. how is that asshole of a cop gonna prove i WAS racing? he didn't see anything but people standing outside, no racing what so ever. therefore, he can't prove shit neither. thats what i have to fight for.
Old 12-29-2001 | 08:58 PM
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oh by the way, i do have proof that i wasn't racing. i have 5 or more witnesses that will swear under oath if need be cuz they know that i wasn't racing. what does that cop have? shit.
Old 12-29-2001 | 10:06 PM
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hahaha...that's pretty funny. Seriously, if the cop says you were taking a shit in your car...you were taking a shit in your car. Basically what i am trying to say is that in a court, what the cop says is going to take precedent over what you and your buddies say. They were doing a raid on the scene that you were at and since that is where you were ticketed, that is going to stand pretty strong in a court. Honestly, the best advice here is to get a lawyer to represent you and to keep a real and I stress real cool head in court if you are going to fight this ticket.

Let us know how it goes.
Old 12-30-2001 | 10:35 AM
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Mabey you'll get lucky and the cop won't show up at the hearing
Old 12-30-2001 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by shatooi
he casper, you say that i have nothin to fight for cuz i have no way of proving that i wasn't racing. well tell me this then. how is that asshole of a cop gonna prove i WAS racing? he didn't see anything but people standing outside, no racing what so ever. therefore, he can't prove shit neither. thats what i have to fight for.

oh by the way, i do have proof that i wasn't racing. i have 5 or more witnesses that will swear under oath if need be cuz they know that i wasn't racing. what does that cop have? shit.
look man.. I wish you besty of luck.. but I am telling you.. if the bust was for racing... A COPS WORD IN COURT GOES FARTHER THAN YOURS...

His proof is that he was on a bust for racing... he busted you were there...
if your witnesses were there and under same charges... they arent witnesses...


you may be able to plea bargain.. but thats it!!!
best of luck again.. i just know alotta cops and in NY they are gonna do just as i said...
Old 12-30-2001 | 01:10 PM
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i understand but the witnesses i have were not charged and didn't get ticketed.
Old 12-30-2001 | 11:06 PM
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here's the drill. unless you already fund a lawyer to whom you may speak or who might recommend an associate performing pro bono work... check online and discover every law/statute in your state that even implies the exact crime of which you're acused. read about ligitimate experiences, and reconsider speaking with an attorney, whether you know them. then call several lawyers anyway until you've exacted their experience. lawyers are just folks working, and people love to tell you about what they do for a living. then consider the 'making your point' v. money v. humility thing. then you'll figure it out. best of luck/break a leg.
Old 12-30-2001 | 11:17 PM
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ATLcl98 yeah I read it in the paper. The Florida Highway Patrol set up a sting and busted a whole mess of people. They blocked of a mile of road in either direction. They even had a plane fly by first to check out the scene. From what I heard the people that got away had to drive through dirt roads. Must really suck to go off roading in a dropped car.
Good thing I wasn't there.
I usually do race by there on Krome and 8th street. It used to be cool when the cops didn't know about it cause its in the middle of the everglades and almost no cars drive by.
Shatooi good luck man. Hope you beat the ticket.
Old 01-06-2002 | 03:12 PM
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I also wish you good luck, but I don't hope you beat the ticket. Not to sound holier-than-thou, but maybe you've learned a lesson here? It's not that cops suck, but that if you're going to do illegal stuff then you have to be willing to accept the consequences if you get caught...
Old 01-06-2002 | 03:34 PM
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you know bro your right............but the fact of the matter is that i wasn't racing! i deserve to get a loitering citation and thats it.......not a ticket for somethin i didn't do. i always keep racing at the track, not on the streets. i go to check out the cars and hang out, not to risk my life. thats way i see it man.
Old 01-06-2002 | 04:04 PM
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hey, i just got fucked in the ass by a speeding ticket in GA.....1 yr suspension, anyway, i say you call the cop, his number should be on the ticket, if not youve got his badge number and name....call and ask to talk to him. Be nice and explain to him that your honestly was not racing and see if theres any way he can possibly help you out, being youre going through a rough period right now....hint hint. Just be super polite.....i wish someone told me that before i went to court cause i hear that cops are usually very considerate if they know youve gone out of the way, and have the balls to call and talk to him....DO IT, IT WORKS!!!! good luck man!
Old 01-06-2002 | 06:51 PM
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Speaking of Florida...

I was out @ the Jacksonville street races last night...

Supposedly, the word on the street is that Orange Park cops are having a sting right now. A few unmarked cars are catching people on the weekends. Supposedly they've got 4 or so modded integras in the mix of about 16-18 cars. So be careful if your headed out this way.
Old 01-06-2002 | 07:21 PM
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geta lawyer fight it, and dont say i think i dont deserve any punishment, say i understand the loitering charge, but i was not racing or had an action to do so.
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