rawbeanz

cocoa, I wanna ask some questions

1. What parts exactly do i need to do a cl-s manual tranny swap into my 3.0?

2. How do i deal with ecu stuff? programing?

3. The tranny should bolt right onto the 3.0 engine right?

4. Is this worth doing, and would it be cheaper than just doing an entire 3.2cl swap with tranny and all?

5. How big of a headache is this going to be?


I'm asking, beucase i just felt my tranny slipping today, and im pretty much fed up with driving an auto...frankly it bores me anyways so, my parents are actually considering giving me a manual swap if my tranny does blow...so i was just wondering the steps i gotta go through to get this done.

thanks a bunch

klepto

5. a big one

97BlackAckCL

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acuratl_2nr

buy a manual car ftw!

Cocoa

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Here's a few things to think about when doing the swap. I just went ahead and copied this from the site we cant metnion. There are some things that are left out, and other bigger headaches for us like the wiring and the mounts.

Engine. J32A2 If needing a new engine look for a CLs-6 motor (if not see below *)
03 CLs-6 speed manual.
03 CLs-6 Manual Engine Harness. 32110-PGE-A11
03 CLs 6 speed ECU
03 CLs-6 Flywheel 22105-PGE-305
03 CLs-6 Flywheel bolts (Qty 8) 90011-PGE-000
03 CLs-6 Clutch Assembly 22105-PGE-305 (unfortunately right now there arent many options for aftermarket clutches)
03 CLs-6 Rear Engine mount and bracket 50810-S3M-A01, 50827-S3M-A00, BOLT (m12X25) 90166-S3M-A00
03 CLs-6 Rearand Front Engine Dampenerand bracket (i would reccomend aftermarket here)
03 CLs-6 Shifter and cables. 54100-S3M-A01, 54310-S3M-A01
03 CLs-6 Starter 31200-PGE-A11 (try to locate used, its expensive)
03 CLs-6 Gauges
03 CLs-6 Hydraulic Clutch lines. 46960-S3M-A01, & 46970-S3M-A01
03 CLs-6 Trans mounts (2 of them) 50806-S3M-A03, 50805-S3M-A03
03 CLs-6 Cup Holder 77230-S3M-A01ZA
03 CLs-6 Parking brake 47105-S3M-A04ZA and to go with it,
Spring 47537-671-670, Nut 47522-594-000, Equalizer pin 47365-538-000, Equalizer 47360-SB2-000


*If you use the J32A2 from the Auto you will need these parts (all from the CLs-6)

Front cam pulley 14260-PGE-A11
Front plate assembly (behind cam pulley) 11860-PGE-A10
Timing belt pulley(lower) 13621-PGE-A11
Crank shaft sensor 37500-PGE-A11 (this little sh!t costs $500.00)
Subharness for CKP 37501-PGE-A10
TDC Sensors (Qty 2) 37840-PGE-A11
TDC SUB HARNESS 37841-PGE-A10



If you dont already have the Type-s you will want the IMRC 37850-PGE-A01

Brake/Gas pedal assembly from either the accord or CLs-6. (i modified mine)
If you decide to buy it new BRAKE PEDAL ASSY 46600-S3M-A51

Clutch pedal. (this can be from a few cars, i took mine from a 90s civic. it was almost a direct bolt in.
It uses 3 points to bolt in only 2 lined up. I modified a bolt and shim to make it bolt up in the 3rd spot)

If you decide to buy it new you will need the pedal and mount CLUTCH PEDAL 46910-S3M-A01 & CLUTCH PEDAL BRACKET 46990-S84-A01
MASTER CYLINDER ASSY 46922-S3M-A01 & Clutch Fluid Tank 46965-S5A-013, & Clutch Hose 46961-S3M-A02
(i used the one from the civic i pulled the clutch pedal out of)

Things im not sure if you will need but i bought.

Relay box assembly (under hood) 38250-S3M-A21
Shift Boot 83414-S3M-A01ZA
Shift Knob 54102-SL0-023ZB

If you have a header you will either have to have the XS header or COmptech header for the manual. Other wise it wont fit
You will be able to reuse the stock manifolds




To answer your questions:

1. The obvious parts you need for any auto to manual swap. Use the 5th gen accord stuff. I used a custom clutch pedal though which combined the 5th gen and CLS clutch pedal.

2. If you use the stock ECU, you have to trick it into thinking it's in Neutral for it to run. Otherwise you're stuck going up to 5000rpms only. (either that or it was tricking that it was in D4 all the time, I really forgot) BUT, there is a harness that will run you about $500-700 on v-6-p- that will take care of the bugs that come with the 6speed swap on the stock engines. The other bugs that come up is the no reverse lights, reverse lock out, speedo, and vtec. Again, the harness fixes all that. You have to go to the site I and do the homework on that. I never bothered thinking of going that route since I wanted the full swap.

3. Yes it bolts right up to the block. But you will have to make room for the tranny to fit, as it does take up more space long ways (left to right, if facing the engine bay)

4. Pricing always depends on your mechanic, how good he really is, how much you get th parts for, and the simple fact of whether you can find the tranny without the engine.

5. Pretty big if you have no knowledge as to what you're getting yourself into. Because sometimes, you just might end up having to help your mechanic out. So do your homework...

732xghost

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^^^ hmmmm good luck dude.

mcajka

the only thing that is important here...it can be done....i want a 3.0

Cocoa

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Did you need for me to go into more depth with the info? Did I answer your questions, or are you stumped? What's on your mind? Just curious if I scared you away or not.

TheBatmobile

I myself would love for you to go into more detail, stuff like this is very beneficial to the forum. So next time someone asks you can link them here.

rawbeanz

haha no you didnt scare me away....its just not a very immediate thing for me...thanx for all your help btw I'm planning to do this when my tranny blows....and when i have the money to....i was actually going to buy an FC...but i guess ill just use that money to do a tranny swap....but when the time comes i will do it. I was just wondering if you could actually send me the link to the site that cant be named so i can read what they have to say there thnx a bunch again

Cocoa

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We cant metnion it on the forums. It automatically deletes the link, and you end up with this, watch, this is the actual link that will be removed.....

http:///

Cocoa

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see how it got deleted..

it's v-6-p-e-r-f-o-r-m-a-n-c-e-.-n-e-t without the minus signs

UTsmokey14

i-n-c-o-g-n-i-t-o ftw

TheBatmobile

AZ is run by Commies!!





























Plz don't :ban: me!! me love AZ long time!!

trewatts

why can't we mention the name?

97BlackAckCL

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rivalry? competition, who knows, different car forums, they have our vendors, we have ours, most people here are members on both.

spencer_homer

hahahahhaha he got banned

97BlackAckCL

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What 3, 4 times?

trewatts

are we allowed to mention honda tech?

Jtbecool

What about the 6-spd from the accord V6. I know they exist, and it's a j30 engine. Could you shed some light on that for me cocoa?

Cocoa

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I've heard of 2 guys doing it over from v-6-p but I dont know if there is anything different required to do it. I remember Aidan was working on one and the guy ran into some problems. But then there was another guy that did it and he didnt complain about any issues he came across. I know it doesnt have LSD, and I know there was something else about them that set it apart from the CLS 6 tranny. But I cant put my finger on it right now.

97BlackAckCL

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