CLpower

http://s87278733.onlinehome.us/main/...cocoadyno2.JPG


I'm pretty sure that's not vtec you are looking at crossing over, that's probably where he stepped on it

Cocoa

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mmm....soo confuused...so they dont floor it the whole time during a dyno? Cause he told me they lowered the vtec at 3800rpms.....anyone have stock data on the 3.0?

CLpower

crossover is definately at 3500. I have a relatively stock dyno somewhere but can't find it.


Since it's an automatic it's hard to get the car to dyno at WOT and cross into vtec so most places just punch it, when he punches it it's obvious it down shifted and went into gear at 4500 my dyno looked the same but came on a little earlier

CLpower

see on the stock dyno you can see it kick in at 3800 which is normal cause honda's tachs are about 300 off

Cocoa

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my vtec is set to kick in at 3800, should i change it to 3500?....itz be tuned and everything, so i really rather not mess with it....

CLpower

nah, leave it, you are totally fine

98AcuraCLpimp

how much did the dyno cost ya? what are ya drivin 2.3?

Cocoa

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3.0.......It cost me 175 to have the vafc2 installed and have it tuned.......

ghost_masterCL

damn, why does it drop so sharpy from 3500 to 4500 on the blue run? Is that what my car is doing stock?

Cocoa

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itz showing two diferent runs, before it was tuned, and when they were done tuning it...my car was runningn to lean at higher rpm's, which they fixed....

ghost_masterCL

so the blue is the before run, adn the green is the after run? how do you know he didn't gun it at 3500 rpms in teh stock run, and gun it from teh beggining in the "tuned" run? This may be why it seems to ave such a drastic improvement...

Cocoa

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the green is torque, and the blue is hp...also i didnt show my other sheet...which is the fuel sheet....which showed i was running too lean....

Cocoa

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plus, vafc when tuned are known to give around that many extra hp......your just having your car run optimal to the given modifications given to the car....

ghost_masterCL

no dude, the blue is teh first run, the green is teh second run. if you actually look at the thing you'd see that. you're shit didn't increase THAT much. The ones that start aroudn 75 are teh torque curves, and teh ones that start aroudn 150 are teh HP curves.

Though for 175 bucks and increase of about 10 both HP AND torque is pretty good. better than my intake that's for sure.

Cocoa

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sorry, i never looked at the sheet...i was just hoping i knew the right colors, lol...i was too lazy to open it up again and take a look.....anywayz....175 for 11whp is pretty damn good.....and thatz 11 final whp......but as you can see, i gained hp throughout the hp range......

Cocoa

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rrr...ima take a look at it, just in case i made a mistake, i really dont wanna sound like a dumbass, plus, i'm on vicodin right now, thatz why i'm feeling pretty lazy....got my wisdom teeth pulled, all 4 of em....ouchies!

Cocoa

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k, so light green and light blue are hp, and dark green and dark blue are tq

Cocoa

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anywayz, yea vafc's are a good investment just as long as you have them tuned, you can do it yourself on the dyno if you know what you are doing....i believe someone on this forum did it on his own....he got about the same numbers

Cocoa

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you can get a vafc used for about 150ish on ebay...i believe thatz as low as i've seen em...

CLpower

if you notice though, his gains are throughout the whole RPM range, that's the important part

99CL

yup...vafc is a good investmest along with dyno/tune, as long as u have all the basic bolt ons.

MaCe

cocoa what u have for mods?

basically i have i/h/e setup and am wonderin if a vafc is worth it on my 2.2

Cocoa

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AEM CAI
Apexi N1 Exhaust w/ 2 1/2 inch piping
UR Pullies (crank, alt, ps)
OBX Headers w/ Downpipe
VAFC2 tuned, w/vtec engagement at 3800rpms
Transcooler
Bosh Platnium +4 Spark Plugs
Neuspeed springs
Stripped back (no seats, or spare tire)
Clear corners
All synthetic fluids in motor and tranny
Type S Cams soon to be installed
Hyper Ground System Wires soon to be installed
Wings West rear lip kit to be installed/molded later
Bought a second tranny now sitting in my garage

Yea, with the mods you have, it would be a good investment....

ghost_masterCL

Oh yeah, I definitely noticed that. I'm sure that'll chop off a little bit of his 0-60 time, Currently my 3.0 shifts from 1st to 2nd at about 38 mph, I's sure after I/H/E and vafc it would probably shift around 45 or so, not exactly sure.

When does yours shift Cocoa? I got my wisdm teeth pulled a few years ago, they gave me some shitty pain killers that made me puke, so I ended up just taking Ibuprofin... then I ate popcorna dn got peices of popcorn stuck in the holes back there.. I never had any problems though, and it fully healed in about 2 weeks.

Cocoa

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I dont know what it shifts at to tell you the truth, I never looked. And yea, they gave me some pretty good pain killers....makes me feel lazy....

ghost_masterCL

yeah, well I'm not gonna go ask you to find out in your current state. It's kinda difficult to drive while on vicoden, depending on how much you've had before, and whether you're used to it or not. Find out some time and let me know... especially after this dyno/tune.

CLpower

It doesn't mean you shift later, shift points will be the same unless you change gearing, it just means you'll get their quicker

ghost_masterCL

oh yeah, don't mind me. I just woke up and my critical thinking skills are skewed. My logic was that if the car had greater HP and torqu at the same RPMs then it owuld be moved further in the same time, but Iw as thinking of the gears in terms of like bicycle gears, where if you stopp peddling it would just rool and the peddles would stay in teh same spot, but I forgot that the car would pull the engine along, so the car would acheive equivalent RPMs at teh same speed. Yeah, I sholdn't sleep for 12 hours anymore, I feel high when I wake up.

Cocoa

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Man, I use to pop these pills for fun with some beers and some bud. Actually, what they gave me is called Norco, it is suppose to be stronger than vicodin. I asked for them because I told them I have a high tolerance for depressants, hehe. But I figured no one would know what it is, so I just tell people I have vicodin.

Duece

hey chris hook it up......

CLpower

i can get you quantity

ghost_masterCL

goddamn, what areyou CLpower? God or something?

CLpower

read sig

Duece

scott still got my deez? hit it up im interested....

97Acura3.0CL

i have my vafc installed in my 3.0 and i have mine set to 4000

i have had it set to 3800 but no gains without a dyno and a tune then again i have the vafc1 and not the 2nd gen vafc


how much did he charge you to tune the vafc?

how much did you gain with just the vafc controller?

Cocoa

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i think it was like 11.9whp and 10 lbs of torque. It was 175 for the installation and tuning.

liloj

lol...you didnt know.....



edit: you should add that quote to your sig also scott :P

ghost_masterCL

heh, yeah, add it right above your current quote.