jfkhan

Mine is a 2.3 cl...........
This is the info posted on the DIY
Dual piston calipers can be fit into car. Parts needed are Calipers from a Legend. Rotors are from a prelude. For the Legend Calipers, Type II equipped including the GS sedan or LS coupe, 93-95. are the only kind with dual piston so you will need to locate these types. 2.2/2.3 needs the caliper brackets from 3.0CL, Legend, or 94-96 vtec prelude. Adding this will give you larger rotors and dual piston calipers for greater stopping power.
and I have a couple of question....

it says rotors from a prelude...what year??? vtec or no vtec....I am getting rotors for a prelude non vetec 93-95 for $35 front only plain....or do i have to get the ones for a vetec.....ther seller said that the dimensions are different.....

What I got so far...are calipers from 93-95 legend along with the bracket...WILL THIS BRACKET WORK or do i have to get the brackets from as mentioned above...

2.2/2.3 needs the caliper brackets from 3.0CL, Legend, or 94-96 vtec prelude. Adding this will give you larger rotors and dual piston calipers for greater stopping power.

Will what I bought suffice or do I have to get the bracket's...

any one who has done this mod can you please guide me.....

thankx

JFK

97BlackAckCL

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I believe the prelude rotors were vtec rotors, i dunno about the brackets, my 3.0 came stock with them

Dicorp

Although the front brakes are indentical on the SI and VTEC preludes, get the VTEC rotors just to be safe. If you already have the twin piston calipers from the Legend with their brackets, you dont need anything more.

jfkhan

hey dicorp & blackack...thanks for the input......the calipers should be from a vtec Legend , Type II equipped including the GS sedan or LS coupe, 93-95....

I mean i spoke to the salvage yard guy and the dual pistons were only on the coupe vetec's right.....

jfkhan

what i mena to ask is the calipers&bracket also should be from the vtec right

Dicorp

oh boy, that salvage yard has their head up their ass. legends never had VTEC.
the type II had a high output V6.

this is not that complicated...try to follow me.

1) Buy Type II, Dual Piston Calipers from a Legend with brackets. If the brackets do not come with calipers, buy brackets from a 3.0CL or a 93-96 VTEC Prelude
2) 93-96 Prelude VTEC Rotors
3) Swap those in.

jfkhan

thankx...dicorp......appreciate it

97BlackAckCL

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To what dicorp said

Cocoa

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In addition, one of our members was able to pick all this up at his local dealership for a resonable cost. I believe he paid about $45/each for the calipers brand new. Might want to look into that to compare the costs of used oppose to new ones.

SupraManAG

same here. I got a pretty good price from the dealership. they even came with brake pads

jfkhan

humm...good info guys will check out the dealerships in my area

SupraManAG

id be iffy if i get calipers from the junkyard. you never know if the pistons are frozen, bent or rusted beyong salvage. the rubber on it may be corroted. better check your dealerships well. i would go with new or rebuilt

jfkhan

one last question....do you feel considerable difference in braking and stopping power.....I mean does is there any effect in the stopping capabilities.....

thankx
JFK

Dicorp

depends on what you'd call considerable. in retrospect, my prelude brakes much better than my 2.2CL did. but my brakes keep getting shot, especiallly since i started auto-xing it. for DD, the legend caliper upgrade would be MORE than enough.

jfkhan

Hey Dicorp, I finally got my calipers and rotors delivered, I mtached up the mountingholes and they are perfect, but have some questions on the rotors I got the vtec prelude ones, the stud holes match up but the depth of the rotor inner well is more on the prelude rotors as compared to the OEM rotors....does this matter??? will the prelude rotors fit without any issues??? let me know

Thankx
JFK

Dicorp

I have no idea. assemble one wheel to see if it works or not.

guapo187

Couldn't you just use rotors from the 3.0cl? I think they are only a hair smaller than the prelude rotors, but they are fitted for a cl.

97BlackAckCL

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Correct, the 3.0 rotors are larger than the 2.x rotors, I suggested that in people's threads instead of prelude rotors, however vtec prelude rotors are a tiny bit larger diameter

Gnate

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Hey jfkhan let me know how those brakes work out for you, i'm considering doing that a bit down the road, Thanks

97BlackAckCL

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I want to install mine SO bad

Gnate

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What's the holdup if you've got em? Busy work schedule?

Dicorp

makes sense to use the 3.0 CL rotors then.
maybe amend the Noob Guide with this info?

jfkhan

Hold on don't amend any thing let me check how this Prelude Vtec rotors works...incidently I have set of brand new EBc rotors OEM size and when I compare the diameters it is definately bigger the hole match up too...but just the inner well of the rotors is what I am concerned about....if it does work out I will keep you guys posted I have alreday wasted a lot of money on shipping parts back and forth...I also have a set of reman OEM calipers and I compared the dual piston calipers and the hole match up pretty nicely and oh BTW they are from 1994 Acura Legend GS may be this needs to be updated as there are many different calipers for legends out there and this is the only one that is the dual piston and whose bracket holes match up...so may be this needs to be amended....but wait till I confirm the fitment.....I wil post teh complete list of exact parts that I bought.....

so gnate just wait may be this weekend I will get to it.

Thankx
JFK

97BlackAckCL

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Brakes are the only thing on my car I don't diy, for safety reasons. I prefer to pay a certified mechanic, and I haven't had the extra money to pay a mechanic reccently, with gas prices, and my mortgage payments, so I've been waiting. Plus it's not just installing calipers, I would be installing calipers, new pads, stainless steel brakelines, and new brake fluid, plus bleeding the brakes, oh and I want to do my rotor over hub conversion at the same time which would require new rotors, and the ones I have on are brand new, so yeah...

Gnate

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'nuff said.


The day will come!

97BlackAckCL

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Just got offered a new job for more money though

Dicorp

So then 97's require the Rotor over hub conversion for the Legend Caliper upgrade, right? Preludes and Legends are all rotor over hub.
Or Can you get away with 97 3.0 Rotors?

97BlackAckCL

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No, my rotor over hub is a different thing all together. I just hate paying $200 labor to get rotors installed, so I figure I can install 98-99 rotors once I install my 99 hubs. The 97's work with the legend calipers, cuz they have the same brackets

Dicorp

you're not getting my question.

for 98-99 CL, the caliper swap is easy. you're using prelude rotors that go over your hubs. or 98-99 3.0CL Rotors.

for a 97, Prelude Rotors wont work, because they're not hub over rotor. So you have to use 97 3.0CL Rotors correct?

97BlackAckCL

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Gotchya, yes that's correct, you can use big brakes off an accord wagon though

magi302

I just want to know if the Goodridge setup I have on now will fit the Legend/Prelude setup. This setup sounds awesome.....going to Honda Friday!!!!

magi302

yea, o.k...what about the hubs needed or knuckles? Please help me i'm in the middle of this work and need help...thx

magi302

bump? Brakelines Goodridge fit after concersion?

Blazin Si

Your original brake lines will fit after the conversion. I'm putting NSX brakes on my 2.2 just as soon as the drivers side caliper arrives.

Parts List:
• Calipers from the Legend GS Coupe/LS Sedan or NA1 NSX
• 25T caliper bracket from the 5th gen Accord V6, Accord Wagon, 4th gen Prelude VTEC or 3.0CL
• Rotors from a 5th gen Accord V6, Accord Wagon, 4th gen Prelude VTEC or 3.0CL
• 2 separate brake caliper hardware kits. 1 for the Legend/NSX calipers and 1 for the 25T brackets.

The "25" in the 25T caliper bracket is the width of the rotor in millimeters. The 2.2/2.3CL has 23T brackets. If you buy a loaded Legend/NSX caliper, you'll receive 28T brackets. The 28T will work if you shim the rotor.

Best place to buy the brackets is from rockauto.com. Advance Autoparts or other chains will charge you about $80. At Rock Auto it came to $40 with shipping.

P0401

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if you have the 97 with 3.0 do you still need the 25T caliper bracket?

Blazin Si

Negative. You already have them.

97BlackAckCL

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The 3.0 brackets dont' need swapped

magi302

any chance for purchase! Do the rotor hubs and caliippers need to be rebuilt

97BlackAckCL

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I'm not selling the calipers or hubs, you can find both on ebay though

magi302

hey, I could really use help with what cars/years the parts I need are from, hubs, calipers, rotors, right?