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Jun 10, 2001 | 01:29 PM

30CL

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Axxis MM suck

I have purchased Brembo cross-drilled and clotted front rotors and Axxis Metal Mater Pads for all wheels. Yesturday, Sat, I went to a shop and replaced front rotors, surfaced rear ones and put Axxis Metal Master Pads On. After that, the car does not brake, it just slides. Guy at the shop say that it's pads that do not brake. Am I missing anything here, guys?

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Jun 10, 2001 | 04:39 PM

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I dont know...I hear those are some of the best pads out there. Maybe they installed it wrong? IE: Didn't connect something or fill up your brake fluid? Don't know, but please keep us updated because I was going to upgrade my brake system too.

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Jun 10, 2001 | 06:38 PM

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Is there a web site of Axxis? Or where I can find legitimate info on them?

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Jun 10, 2001 | 11:28 PM

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There official website is not up yet.. www.axxisbrakes.com

I will try and find you a site that has more info.

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Jun 11, 2001 | 02:40 AM

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Is there a BRAKE-IN period or something for Axxis Metal Master pads?

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Jun 11, 2001 | 02:50 AM

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No brakes should slide like you said in my opinion. If they did, laws wouldn't let them sell. I am honestly saying that they installed something wrong. I don't know..

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Jun 11, 2001 | 02:57 AM

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Some people do say that you should use a regular and smooth braking action for the first 180-300 miles after you change the rotor and pads....but if you say that your cars slides, there is still something wrong

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Jun 11, 2001 | 03:07 AM

30CL

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Do you know what could be wrong?

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Jun 11, 2001 | 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by 30CL:
Do you know what could be wrong?

I really don't...and I am sorry that I really can't help. I know how it must suck to get all excited about something and then to install it and have it suck!

I honstely was looking into the axxis MM pads too...so I am trying to research on what could cause this for you..sorry nothing yet.

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Jun 11, 2001 | 03:39 AM

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I have found on the net that on Axxis MM you would need to brake in those pads. About 20 stops from 30mph. And they really brake in after 100 miles. I will talk with the shop guys to warm up those pads. For now I 'll be driving '85 Integra

(my GF's old car waiting to be donated).

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Jun 11, 2001 | 03:45 AM

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Damn sorry to hear man..I guess go cruising in your neighborhood? Brake and stop...THanks for the info though! I hope the brakes work out for ya..oh..can you take pics of the brembos with the pads? Where did you get the rotors at?

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Jun 11, 2001 | 04:00 AM

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Got Brembos from islandmotorsports.com through groupbuycenter.com (Front $172 shipped).
I'll try to take some pix. To bad do not have Dig.camera. But I will think of something.

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[This message has been edited by 30CL (edited 06-11-2001).]

Jun 11, 2001 | 12:58 PM

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i had axxis pads. I loved them, you just have to give them a little while to break in. When you say the car slides, does that mean the wheels lock up?

Jun 11, 2001 | 01:27 PM

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I ment that the car would not stop for a while. Braking period is much longer. I have decided to return those pads and replace with Acura originals. Just checked the price, it's $112 for all wheels.

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Jun 11, 2001 | 01:44 PM

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do a couple hard stops on them. ON an open road. Just go about 60 and slam on them to a stop a few times

Jun 11, 2001 | 02:22 PM

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A guy at the shop did that. He was the same age as I, around 25. So, I am pretty sure about the test. And still no effect.

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Jun 12, 2001 | 03:56 PM

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I got Acura/Honda pads. and they work alright. I was just tired of all this frustration.

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Jun 13, 2001 | 01:15 AM

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If you don't bother bleeding the brakes, installing the pads is pretty easy. Remove the wheel, open the caliper, swap pads (& don't forget the anti squeal grease), push pistons back in, close caliper, and put everything back together.

Not sure what could've gone wrong when they installed your Axxes, but that doesn't sound normal at all. Did you try disabling your ABS & seeing if the brake proportioning is right (by seeing if one set of wheels always locks up)?

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Jun 13, 2001 | 01:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by RidinLow:
If you don't bother bleeding the brakes, installing the pads is pretty easy. Remove the wheel, open the caliper, swap pads (& don't forget the anti squeal grease), push pistons back in, close caliper, and put everything back together.

Not sure what could've gone wrong when they installed your Axxes, but that doesn't sound normal at all. Did you try disabling your ABS & seeing if the brake proportioning is right (by seeing if one set of wheels always locks up)?

I did not bleed the system nor disable the ABS. But if Honda pads worked right away after changing them, that means that something wrong this those Axxis MM. Anyway, they already on their way back.

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Jun 13, 2001 | 03:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 30CL:
For now I 'll be driving '85 Integra (my GF's old car waiting to be donated).

No such car exists. Remember, Acura did not exist until 3/27/86.

Jun 13, 2001 | 12:41 PM

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OK. It might be '86. So old, that it does not matter.

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