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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Hey guys im new here and was wondering to those with the 2.2 motor. Do you guys actaully here the vtec activate with a intake on the car? Let me know just curious. Thanks in advance.
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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i know you asked about the 2.2. But my 3.0 i could hear it when it was stock. Now i have a intake i can really hear it
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Yes you can hear the vtec with an intak
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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you wont hear it on the 2.2, at all. Intake or no intake. If you do, it'll be very faint. Its not vtec like on the DOHC hondas where you can hear the changeover, because its on both the intake and exhaust lobes on those, and only on the intake lobes on the f22/f23 vtec motors.
Old Feb 20, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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I've never heard it on my 2.2. but the short ram intake sounded sweet.
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You can deff hear it on my 3.0. Not sure about 2.X though. Like BlackAck said, I could hear it stock so if you can't her it stock, you will probably never hear it.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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ive read that vtec should be more linear than anything.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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WHat are u guys talking about? Can't hear Vtec on a 2.2? LoL Damn NOOBS
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WineRed2.2CL
WHat are u guys talking about? Can't hear Vtec on a 2.2? LoL Damn NOOBS
wtf are YOU talking about? ? You have like 500 posts, you've got no room to be calling people noobs yet. Not to mention your post doesn't make sense
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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^ he should take a ride in a DOHC honda with vtec, so he can learn what it sounds like
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
wtf are YOU talking about? ? You have like 500 posts, you've got no room to be calling people noobs yet. Not to mention your post doesn't make sense
yah, with a join date 2 years before you, he's such a noob. because with bigger your post count, the bigger your penis size

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^ he should take a ride in a DOHC honda with vtec, so he can learn what it sounds like
thats true...
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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"you wont hear it on the 2.2, at all. Intake or no intake. If you do, it'll be very faint. Its not vtec like on the DOHC hondas where you can hear the changeover, because its on both the intake and exhaust lobes on those, and only on the intake lobes on the f22/f23 vtec motors."

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wtf are YOU talking about? ? You have like 500 posts, you've got no room to be calling people noobs yet. Not to mention your post doesn't make sense



LMFAO you are a noob kid. So the # posts determines my car knowledge? Please dude go clean your mothers dishes.


I have a 2.2 and the vtec growls when engaged. It may not as loud as dohc but it still is VTEC and makes a significant noise.

And for those who have a 2.2 and do not hear it its cause your oil pressure is to low or you got dinged up oil pan.

Now for the INtake i cannot respond for i have yet to put one on when i do ill let all you know.


If it wasn't for BlkAc we would have a freakin circus over here.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Euro925
ive read that vtec should be more linear than anything.
That's correct. When someone says their car really pulls hard on the big lobes, it's because their VTEC is set way too high. A lot of kids with VAFC's move theirs around on their stock motors and get a false sense added horsepower. It's usually because they move it up in the RPM, which causes you to fall out of the power band on the primary lobes. When you switch to the secondaries later in the RPM range, you slam back into it making it feel like you just got huge bump in horsepower. It's really making your car slower.

Linear power in much more useful on all motor applications. The sound of the crossover is unaffected unless you move the engagement point lower in the RPM range.
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inf, wine is no n00b

Knock it off fellaz :gheyhug:
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Took a ride in my friends new '96 Accord (f22) after bowling, he floored it a couple of times and I honestly can't hear it at all. Not even faintly... Maybe his oil pressure is too low or his oil pan is dinged.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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oh mannnnnnnnnnnn
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GhettoNinja06
Took a ride in my friends new '96 Accord (f22) after bowling, he floored it a couple of times and I honestly can't hear it at all. Not even faintly... Maybe his oil pressure is too low or his oil pan is dinged.
stop being a troll. Not all CD accords have the F22B1, SOHC VTEC engine.
most have F22B2.

Originally Posted by Blazin Si
That's correct. When someone says their car really pulls hard on the big lobes, it's because their VTEC is set way too high. A lot of kids with VAFC's move theirs around on their stock motors and get a false sense added horsepower. It's usually because they move it up in the RPM, which causes you to fall out of the power band on the primary lobes. When you switch to the secondaries later in the RPM range, you slam back into it making it feel like you just got huge bump in horsepower. It's really making your car slower.

Linear power in much more useful on all motor applications. The sound of the crossover is unaffected unless you move the engagement point lower in the RPM range.
on a properly tuned, heavily modded engine, the crossover is nearly eliminated as the main goal is to get rid of the jump in hp/tq when the high cam is engaged.

regardless of whether the engagement point is moved up or down.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dicorp
stop being a troll. Not all CD accords have the F22B1, SOHC VTEC engine.
most have F22B2.



on a properly tuned, heavily modded engine, the crossover is nearly eliminated as the main goal is to get rid of the jump in hp/tq when the high cam is engaged.

regardless of whether the engagement point is moved up or down.
Haha! Wow....okay, now I'm a troll!

I didn't say anything about a F22B1 SOHC VTEC now did I? Just talking about my experience with a 2.2L vtec.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GhettoNinja06
Haha! Wow....okay, now I'm a troll!

I didn't say anything about a F22B1 SOHC VTEC now did I? Just talking about my experience with a 2.2L vtec.

because that would be the engine in question...the F22B1...the one you had an "experience with". thats assuming your friends accord even has that engine and you're not bullshiting just for the sake of nothing...hence my initial use of the word "troll"

honestly, go take a pic of ur friends engine or take a vid of him punching it before you question people like Wine with ur sarcastic comments.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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lol......ok, let me get this straight, I have to post a pic as proof before I can make a sarcastic comment? Who the hell do you think you are?

Here's his f22.


From what I understood, 2.2 CLs have the same engine as 2.2 Accords. I didn't know that they were slightly different. I have a V6 so forgive me for not knowing much about 4 bangers.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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nah man some are vtec and some arent lol
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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nah man some are vtec and some arent lol
His was a vtec.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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f22b1 has vtec f22b2 doesn't. i think i can make out the vtec on the valve cover so its a b1. Everyone just get along ahaha and anyways b1 or b2 my b1 is slow!
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WineRed2.2CL
"you wont hear it on the 2.2, at all. Intake or no intake. If you do, it'll be very faint. Its not vtec like on the DOHC hondas where you can hear the changeover, because its on both the intake and exhaust lobes on those, and only on the intake lobes on the f22/f23 vtec motors."




LMFAO you are a noob kid. So the # posts determines my car knowledge? Please dude go clean your mothers dishes.


I have a 2.2 and the vtec growls when engaged. It may not as loud as dohc but it still is VTEC and makes a significant noise.

And for those who have a 2.2 and do not hear it its cause your oil pressure is to low or you got dinged up oil pan.

Now for the INtake i cannot respond for i have yet to put one on when i do ill let all you know.


If it wasn't for BlkAc we would have a freakin circus over here.
You must be fucking kidding me, right? Yeah, you're a damn like i said before. Clean my mother's dishes? what kinda dumb shit is that? How can i wash a dead woman's dishes u assclown?

I've owned 2 f23's both modded with intakes and other mods, and i kept them regularly maintained, not to mention i've been living around hondas all my life, and single cam 4 bangers do not have a definitive vtec crossover sound. The oil pans were perfectly fine, and my oil levels were at prime levels. Do you have anything to dispute the FACT that i posted about vtec being only on the intake side, thus barely noticable? No, you talk about washing fucking dishes cuz u can't prove shit. No wonder u have only 500 posts Get a fucking doctors note that says you have supersonic hearing or some shit, then maybe i'll believe you

If u can hear it, go take a video of your 2.2 so that we can hear it too, cuz with all the single cam 4 bangers with vtec i've dealt with, 4 in my immediate family alone, the changeover is unnoticeable.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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^Also, this guy has a built h23vtec I think he knows what he's talking about.
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Here's a video of shineynitelite's single cam with full bolt ons. YOU tell ME where the vtec crossover is, since its so audible then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4cy125fubE
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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WTF he ran 14's with a single cam??? what does he have done?
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Wowwww... There is now way that is JUST full bolt ons.. Sweet run!
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Inf I told you to drop it, now knock it off, jesus christ why is everyone bickering like school girls anymore? We're supposed to have spirited debates, not arguments and bickering trying to prove each other wrong, you guys are acting like a bunch of children
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Originally Posted by GhettoNinja06
Wowwww... There is now way that is JUST full bolt ons.. Sweet run!
He was spraying too, dunno if he was on that run or not but he had the bottle
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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nitrous 125 shot also. So no, he didnt have low oil or a dinged oilpan, or wasn't running the right octane gas, or whatever else kind of excuse. You'd think vtec would SCREAM with a nitrous run yet...i can't detect the changeover. Can anyone else, honestly?
Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Inf I told you to drop it, now knock it off, jesus christ why is everyone bickering like school girls anymore? We're supposed to have spirited debates, not arguments and bickering trying to prove each other wrong, you guys are acting like a bunch of children
Sorry chris, i just dont like when people talk crap n then instead of facts, talk about my mom and her dishes, esp when she's not even alive. I'll stop acting up.
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Originally Posted by GhettoNinja06
lol......ok, let me get this straight, I have to post a pic as proof before I can make a sarcastic comment? Who the hell do you think you are?

Here's his f22.


From what I understood, 2.2 CLs have the same engine as 2.2 Accords. I didn't know that they were slightly different. I have a V6 so forgive me for not knowing much about 4 bangers.
well you understood wrong, yet that didnt stop you from postwhoring and making stupid comments. anyways, im not trying to pick a fight with you. it just bothers me when people post before they think, without any concrete proof that creeps up later after the thread has been flooded with shit.

bottom line...the crossover on the f22b1 is hard to hear, but it's there...otherwise vtec wouldnt work and you'd have a CEL and be in limp mode.

Originally Posted by f22vtec
^Also, this guy has a built h23vtec I think he knows what he's talking about.
having something doesn't exactly mean you know everything. I'm not trying to discredit Chris, but no1 is always 100% right.

Originally Posted by f22vtec
WTF he ran 14's with a single cam??? what does he have done?
i beleive he was spraying. or might have that been afterwards.
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
nitrous 125 shot also. So no, he didnt have low oil or a dinged oilpan, or wasn't running the right octane gas, or whatever else kind of excuse. You'd think vtec would SCREAM with a nitrous run yet...i can't detect the changeover. Can anyone else, honestly?
in the vid you posted, i can definitely hear the engine working harder than usual, hence in high cam.

skilled drivers will be able to launch close to the VTEC crossover point, given they have slicks, so you wont even hear it on a twin cam motor. also shifting at the cutoff will drop you right into VTEC anyways.
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Originally Posted by Dicorp
well you understood wrong, yet that didnt stop you from postwhoring and making stupid comments. anyways, im not trying to pick a fight with you. it just bothers me when people post before they think, without any concrete proof that creeps up later after the thread has been flooded with shit.
Not sure what I understood wrong.... and I wouldn't call 2 posts about the topic "postwhoring". I'm not trying to pick a fight with you either but it bothers me when people get so hasty and give me retarded sarcastic posting advice.
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damn 125 shot huh? thats whats up.
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