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12-18-2007, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
All you'll really need for that amount of HP is a stage 1 clutch and pressure plate. The tranny itself will hold up fine. When you start getting into boost you might have to get a stronger clutch depending on how much power you put down, but stage 1 should be fine for most of your power demands. Throwing in an LSD would help with traction and tire spin if you can afford one, but its not mandatory until you start getting big power numbers.
Silvercl97 suggested I stay with the F tranny too, but not if I was going to go G. How sure are you that the "frankenstien" will be that hard. I thought I saw a few that had it done clean. Aw hell now I dont know what to do.
I know Im staying with F block for sure. In all honesty Im making my decision based on everyones suggestion as far as a turboed F or G. Guess I need to double check on how many G22s I see.
12-18-2007, 06:12 AM
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what i ment was that if your going boost on either the f22 motor or the g22 that the f22 tranny would be the best bet. If your going all motor the h23 tranny would be the better choice over the f22
12-18-2007, 07:01 AM
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/\ F22 5spd w/stage 1 clutch and pressure plate & LSD.
btw I saw on an old wilp thread you were talking abuot doing a G2? setup. Did you or did you go H?
btw I saw on an old wilp thread you were talking abuot doing a G2? setup. Did you or did you go H?
12-18-2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
what i ment was that if your going boost on either the f22 motor or the g22 that the f22 tranny would be the best bet. If your going all motor the h23 tranny would be the better choice over the f22
12-18-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
what i ment was that if your going boost on either the f22 motor or the g22 that the f22 tranny would be the best bet. If your going all motor the h23 tranny would be the better choice over the f22
12-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
what i ment was that if your going boost on either the f22 motor or the g22 that the f22 tranny would be the best bet. If your going all motor the h23 tranny would be the better choice over the f22
This makes the most logical sense /thread
12-18-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
what i ment was that if your going boost on either the f22 motor or the g22 that the f22 tranny would be the best bet. If your going all motor the h23 tranny would be the better choice over the f22
H22 tranny for all motor, h23 for boosting.
u dont want to be shifting that late.. if ur worried about teh freeway then just change out the 5th gear..
12-18-2007, 03:00 PM
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We're talking g22 setup dan, not H22. For the H22 you'd want an H22 tranny either way. G22 (H head, F Block) you'd want the f series tranny.
12-18-2007, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
Ok thats what i thought too lol. And no, there aren't that many g22's actually completed, but that shouldn't deter you from trying it out. Just make sure that you would go about the correct procedures and be meticulous in the buildup to make it work cuz if not, it'll be a pain in ur ass. I'd like to see you complete that though
if you are going with a boosted G/F setup.
12-20-2007, 05:49 AM
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12-21-2007, 01:00 AM
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We all love low power-weight ratios, but what does that have to do with your setup? Here is something like what I was talking about...http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fBdPkf8qp6E
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=93p1sX...eature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AKuZZP...eature=related
BTW even though the S2000 engine is considered an F series, it is actually closer in design to a K series.
12-22-2007, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NightRider
We all love low power-weight ratios, but what does that have to do with your setup? Here is something like what I was talking about...http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fBdPkf8qp6E
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=93p1sX...eature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AKuZZP...eature=related
BTW even though the S2000 engine is considered an F series, it is actually closer in design to a K series.
12-22-2007, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NightRider
We all love low power-weight ratios, but what does that have to do with your setup? Here is something like what I was talking about...
answer.
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:BTW even though the S2000 engine is considered an F series, it is actually closer in design to a K series.
12-22-2007, 04:43 PM
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In all honestly I dont see what the big deal is when you boost a G22. Hey a H22 even if USDM and do sleeve n piston job. Boost 10-15lbs n ull be good. If you want some real power. Buy a 2.5L stroker kit, get yourself some darton sleeves and a mean head. Blow 35lb of boost and ull have some wicked power.
12-22-2007, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RICO80
Because if you were suggesting I not go with a F/G22 than I would have hade to reconsider my tranny options. Your suggestion however has had me looking into the K swap (k24a2 or of course k23a1). I wonder if its possible. And everyone can save that "anythings possible with the right amount of money" answer.
Thats why I refered to that video.
answer.Thats why I refered to that video.
Although the K23A1 (RDX engine) has low CR and is ideal for boost, it is paired with the 5AT and SH-AWD, so I don't know the implications or possiblities of manipulating that to a FWD setup.
12-22-2007, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NightRider
Ya we are on the same page now. Gotta throw in the generic money answer just in case0 --> there are some people who have the money but don't know the possibilities, and others who do know the possibilities but don't have the money. I definitely don't have a lot of money right now
Although the K23A1 (RDX engine) has low CR and is ideal for boost, it is paired with the 5AT and SH-AWD, so I don't know the implications or possiblities of manipulating that to a FWD setup.
Although the K23A1 (RDX engine) has low CR and is ideal for boost, it is paired with the 5AT and SH-AWD, so I don't know the implications or possiblities of manipulating that to a FWD setup.
12-22-2007, 05:15 PM
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yeah I see all these crazy setups talked about, but im just not seeing too many done or maybe im just not finding them. its causing me to reconsider everything i want to do and its driving me crazy because my indicisiveness (i think i spelled that right) has me without a reliable car right now.
Bump it I think Ill just drop in the F22 5spd and spend all my money on the front end.
Bump it I think Ill just drop in the F22 5spd and spend all my money on the front end.
12-24-2007, 02:17 PM
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nahhh dont do that! maybe u can split it between the 2, get a front lip and some motor mods. I'm more of a motor than looks person myself, maybe thats y i say that.
12-25-2007, 10:33 AM
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I saw a Matrix yesterday. Real clean. Even had some nice decals. It was nice till i saw a huge decal which said "Integra Type R". Middle aged woman driving it lol.
12-26-2007, 01:04 PM
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Aight, let the jokes begin huh.
Well I seem to have put this project on hold since by some miracle my tranny is working fine. Is was redlining between each gear, I got the fluid changed and was told it would go soon. But somehow its been working like a pro since. I pushed to 95 on the Highway and it was fine, got on the strip crusing at 15 punched it and it reved high at first but pulled right away. So Im gonna save myself some money right now and wait for the thing to crap out completly.
Well I seem to have put this project on hold since by some miracle my tranny is working fine. Is was redlining between each gear, I got the fluid changed and was told it would go soon. But somehow its been working like a pro since. I pushed to 95 on the Highway and it was fine, got on the strip crusing at 15 punched it and it reved high at first but pulled right away. So Im gonna save myself some money right now and wait for the thing to crap out completly.
12-27-2007, 02:46 PM
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better get ready for it to crap out tho and get u a tranny. Dont want it to crap out n then ur sitting there with no tranny to replace it
02-01-2008, 09:23 PM
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Well it crapped out and I went for the swap 3000 bucks. not sure if thats too much but it seemed cool to me. got an aftermarket clutch & flywheel and it rides smooth when I hit it right. I was told, for some reason the holes for the manny tranny were not pre drilled. Does anyone know if this is true or not for the 97 models only?
02-01-2008, 09:30 PM
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did u swap just the tranny to a 5sp for 3k?....................damn thats expensive, it would of been cheaper to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and get an h22 w/transmission swap
02-02-2008, 06:07 AM
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Well unfortunately for me there arent too many reputable shops near me, and if they are no one on this forum seemed to know so I had to go with what I could. I did try to get a new CL off of Ebay but the bank screwed me and didnt get me my money in time. I had one a 99 cl with 167k miles (5 speed) for $3500. When my car crapped out I hade no time couldnt afford to wait for another good deal. I just cant get good prices around hear because not alot of people do real complicated work so shops are not as familiar with certain things. the price was $2200 but with the extra labor and after market parts plus taxes it ended up being $3000.
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wow you would have been better off swapping in a auto for under a grand and selling your car. plus for 3k like otehrs said, h22 swap that shit, nothing better then a turbo H22. eitherway glad to see your enjoying the new 5spd, what trans did u end up going with??
02-03-2008, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Alperovich
wow you would have been better off swapping in a auto for under a grand and selling your car.
Originally Posted by Alperovich
plus for 3k like otehrs said, h22 swap that shit, nothing better then a turbo H22.
02-03-2008, 11:18 AM
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To swap in an h22, you'd have to do sleeve and piston work as well as head work to make the h22 support the turbo on higher boost, the f22 already has sleeved cylinders and can better support boost. Just a thought for all the H22 all the way people